Which veggies make BF babies windy?

[LittleMissMac]

Had another truly appalling night last night (as opposed to just "terrible" - I'm working out my own scale of awfulness ).

I have a feeling that nights are worse when DS (18 weeks) is quite farty, so I've started to try and identify what I'm eating that might be contributing via BF. I've cut out broccoli (boo hoo) and now it looks like sugar peas might have to go the same way (double boo!).

Is there a list of veggies that are pretty much guaranteed to make my LO uncomfortably farty? Or is it simply a matter of trial and error?

Thanks in advance... (parp)

Are you winding him thoroughly after a feed LMM? I would have thought that the wind is more likely to be trapped air really. I am no expert but I say this because wind produced after we eat some high fibre vegetables is the product of undigested carbohydrates in our gut and it is the mother that digests them not the baby... or am I being misleading here? Hopefully a more knowledgable person will come and tell us!

There is no reason why vegetables which are hard to digest by the mum can somehow pass into the milk in the same form....the body doesn't work like that.

The vast majority of babies are fine, whatever their mum eats.

However, indvidual babies might seem to have a reaction to some foods, and it would be crazy for someone to say what their baby seems to react to and for you to apply it to yours, LittleMissMac

What's happening with your baby? If he is OK as long as he is with you, and close to or on the breast in bed, and cries if he isn't, then it is nothing to do with broccoli On the other hand , if he is distressed whatever you do, it's still unlikely to be the veg you are eating, IMO.

Is there any sign of teeth? Does your baby pull at their ears at all. Teething can really mess with their heads and yours!

Jolly good. The old brain doesn't think straight at 4am on a few hours' sleep

I'm learning how to help him settle himself at night, and it just seems that he wakes up more when he's windy. I expect it's not enough burping sometimes that does it (though I do try), as Mr Dawkins suggests, rather than some strange vegetable connection.

Hellloooo broccoli

Re. teeth - no, don't think so, yet. He just likes feeding himself to sleep (so we're following the advice of the good Ms Pantley to try and remedy this before the teething does kick in, ho ho ho)

If he feeds and then sleeps, and just wakes up often, crying, and is then settled by the breast, then he's being normal....I don't think it sounds like wind!

But the loud and explosive farts do sound like wind

Er, well, yes, farts are made of wind!

Not sure what you mean....if she's farting she's getting rid of her wind just fine!

Sorry - your baby's a ds not a dd

Crossed wires, I think - I originally just meant that when he wakes more than usual he sometimes also seems unusually farty. I totally agree that he is being normal by waking often - I actually don't mind getting up several times during the night, it's just when it's hourly or more frequently than that (argh!) that I start to wonder if there's anything else going on (in addition to his liking for nursing to settle him.)

Anyway, you answered my original question so nicely I know I don't have to worry about any demon vegetables, LOL, so thank you

Just some empathy from a fellow farty-baby mum. DS is 25 weeks and has incredible capacity for farting. And it's always nights when this bothers him - he'll wake in the depths of the night thrashing around groaning, feed for comfort, wake again 45 mins later, etc etc until he finally has a huge fart around 6am (or anytime near to when I'm going to be getting up) and then drops off into a blissful sleep

Things we have tried

• Infacol
• Baby massage (3x daily we bicycle his legs and then push his knees towards his chest, and also if we suspect there's a fart brewing. This will be demonstrated in any baby massage class, very effective and a great party trick )
• Dairy-free diet for mum - I tried this a few times, including the last fortnight, and it hasn't helped but others swear it works for them.
• Obscure winding techniques after every feed including tummy-time (but beware this makes them vomit too), sitting him on our knee and then rotating him from the waist ... hard to describe but basically lean him back then side to side and forwards until it comes up, and if all that fails hand him over to Dad who's much better at burping then I am

My DS is tongue tied and I am sure this has resulted in a dodgy latch and lots of air being swallowed, although my nips are OK. I spoke to a BFC on the phone and she agreed that it might be a problem so could be worth checking his mouth too.

I am currently debating whether to see a BFC in person to get my latch checked (at 6 months old it seems a bit late but worth it for some sleep methinks!), you might want to think about that too if you hear clicking or squeaking when she feeds. I've always heard this and also loads of rumbling from my DS's tummy while feeding, think I should have dealt with all of this a while back ... hmmm!

Good luck and I hope some of that helps ... and I second that foodstuffs don't seem to be linked to baby fartiness - every time I think I find a culprit I do a test (OK maybe I did the chocolate test a few times ) and it's never repeatable, so I try not to worry and just eat what I want to.

hmmm not sure I agree with other posters- I desperately wanted this not to be true but there are definitely foods that produce more wind in my DD of 16 weeks (who does just the same as yours and RosemaryConley's in the wee hours). DD1 was just the same.

For me it is just not worth eating broccoli, cauliflower or beans (baked or otherwise) unless I want to be up all night. Other things such as curry and other leafy greens can be done once in a while. It's a bit of a pain but I am hoping that it will get better when she is a bit bigger and weaned onto those very foods.