Expressing help please...

[macdoodle]

Having established somewhat of a routine and some success at BF (much better this time round with no 2) am in need of some expressing advice...
DD2 is 2 weeks and feeds well every 3-4 hrs (and occasionally more frequently)with some wind but doing ok...I have a borrowed (antique) elctric pump which I tried out today and worked really well expressing 3oz in 10mins...but now am at a loss as to how to proceed...
So can anyone help...am enjoying BF this time round but I guess would like her to take one bottle day to give me a break and get used to a bottle early (will be going back to work in June)..
(1) How often/when and how much should I express a day
(2) How much should she take in one EBM bottle feed
(3) which is the best feed to give her EBM - H and I are seperated so just me DD1 age 6 and baby age 2 weeks so night feeds would not be best as easier just to hoik into bed and quick feed...
My scientific brain had been doing well with the feed on demand but not sure what to do with my little bottle of EBM now

I know (2). Her weight in kg multiplied by 150ml divided by the number of feeds per day. That's how the hospital worked it out for us when I was expressing all 8 feeds a day, anyway.

The usual theory with bottle feeding is, give them enough so that they leave a bit in the bottle - ie they are choosing to stop and not being forced to stop cos its run out. But my piglets keep going till there is none left regardless.

I seem to remember that you shouldn't give EBM in the evenings / overnight until bf is really well established. Someone will probably explain why in a minute (or tell me I'm wrong)

I have a 3 month daughter who refuses to take a bottle of expressed milk. How do you do it? I only need it for day feeds not evening or nightime, and not for everyday. I've tried avent and breastflow bottles and teats, sneaking it in while she's feeding, when she's hungry, not hungry. But she's not interested. I never had any dificulty with my older girls (who are now 13 & 10) so I naively thought it would be straight forward this time, was I ever wrong!!I need help please, any suggestions, all comments and tips welcome

One of my previous mothers(i'm a nanny) successfully espressed this way...

She would express after first feed in morning. She would express how ever much she could get.

We would just go by what baby wanted, eg if he left milk in bottle we kept it at that many oz and if he drank it all we put another 2oz in at next feed.

EBM - was giving at second feed of day from birth until six weeks(then he stopped taken it until six weeks after mother went back to work).

At the feed when baby had EBM mother would express and then freeze so that there was a good stash of milk when she went back to work.

She did this until 9 months until she chose to stop BFing.

Hope this helps.

who is going to be giving the bottle of ebm before you go back to work?
you could always just express a bit every now and then to build up a nice stash for when you go back to work, 6 months is ages off, you 'd have loads then and also a back up supply for when you fancy a break, just defrost. I don't think there's any guarantee that starting giving a bottle early on means they will take a bottle later, and at 6 months you could just move onto a cup if you wanted to miss out the teat/bottle bit altogether

Thanks for your help, I'll try this tomorrow. I suppose I just need to relax and go with it, if she takes it fine, if not try again later. It's not really essential as I'm not returning to work but I'm at Uni and need (and want) to attend a seminar. I can take her with me but I just relished the idea of library and lecture time just for me. Not only that her dad is looking forward to a day with her and has taken time of work to do so. we'll have to see what happens.