Cow and gate organic milk being discontinued

[Jen1978]

HELP!! Have finally found a formula that I am happy with - cow and gate organic and now it is being discontinued!! Can anyone recommend another organic one? Has anyone tried Hipp organic formula - is it as good as the likes of cow and gate, SMA and aptimil?

Jen - I'm no expert but I put my DS on Hipp formula after returning to work, and he did very well on it.

I liked the fact it came with less packaging too - I poured it into a glass jar and kept it in that, and there was much less to chuck away

Where on earth did you read that?!!

Was it on the Nestle website?

Iorek

It's true about bad reporting, though - I have seen very recently that 'breastfeeding causes asthma' when the actual story was that babies who were breastfed ( not exclusively) did not seem to be protected from asthma . The heart disease thing is true, too, which was a total misreading of some research that came out about 4 years ago.

Iorek, the LCPs in formula are not the same as the LCPs in breastmilk - they come from marine algae and fish oils. That alone would make me cautious about expecting them to behave the same way as LCPs that come as a package deal with breastmilk. I would not assume they were harmless, either, or that the studies done so far would show they are not.

Hunker, your name changing is exhausting, dear

Tiktok, that's not me.

This is me

Blimey. Who is the imposter then?

HTF can anyone keep up with it all

Sorry - tis VVVQV....am bored of my names atm

Tiktok - I know that LCP's in formula do not behave in exactly the same way as LCP's in breastmilk, but the closer you can get the better I would have thought, given the risks associated with the lack of fatty acids.

Anyway, as we've already said, not enough research has been done yet so we'll have to wait and see and hope they haven't got it too badly wrong.

Am interested to know where these shockingly dumb statements like "breastfeeding causes asthma" and "breastfeeding associated with heart disease" appeared. Can you remember? (Am suspecting the Daily Mail...)

I thought we needed a new thread to continue because this thread's starting point was not related to what we have been discussing here and have created this one:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/1364/443731?rnd=1198198387512
I have just read mayo clinic "breast milk: revisited" It is 1998 publication but quite interesting, especially the section re chemical pollutants found in human milk. I am going to copy the paper to the above thread. Anybody know anything about it??

The 'causes asthma' one was on the BBC - it was then removed after complaints!

Heart disease one in loads of papers.

Sorry, I don't know anything about the issue - but this reminds me very strongly of the antioxidant debate.

Antioxidants have loads of biological plausibility for a beneficial effect; good effects seen in vitro; people who eat an antioxidant rich diet are healthier; antioxidants can be synthesised in the lab in an easily accessible form - but taking antioxidant supplements still doesn't translate into the same health benefits as eating loads of anti-oxidant-rich food.

I suspect that making inferences about the effect of formula ingredients is tricky in the same way.

welliemum, in fact taking anti-oxidant supplements is actually risky, and people die of degenerative disease sooner:

www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/dec/22/healthandwellbeing.foodanddrink

Not that this stops the anti-oxidant supps peddlers selling their wares, and customers buying them....

{shock] tiktok

Might have known St Ben of Goldacre would be on the case though!