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Can heridatory disease be passed on...

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Landladymews2 · 11/03/2021 12:10

through breastmilk? I’m just curious about whether there’s any evidence that anything could be passed on through donated milk. Obviously if
the birth mother has a risk of diabetes, heart disease, cancer etc that risk is passed on through genetic material but what about where a woman is donating her milk to another baby?

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Bells3032 · 11/03/2021 12:17

Unless it's something like HIV then no. genetic conditions are in genes. they cannot be passed on through breastmilk

HandforthParishCouncilClerk · 11/03/2021 12:26

No. You can’t even pass HIV through breastmilk.

Landladymews2 · 11/03/2021 12:30

Thanks. Someone was trying to argue that there’s a possibility that genetic diseases can be passed on through breastmilk because there are studies that genetic material is passed through breastmilk? They did say it’s not established yet but it’s a possibility.

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Glooorb · 11/03/2021 12:43

Even if genetic material like mum's cells and DNA is passed into breast milk, the baby will just digest it in their stomach. The baby can't "absorb" the genetic material!

Landladymews2 · 11/03/2021 12:48

@Glooorb That makes sense to me. Would love a scientist to confirm that’s accurate (if there is anyone reading this on here)

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MyGorramShip · 11/03/2021 12:56

Microbiologist here.

No, you cannot absorb genes through breastmilk, or anything else.

This is the most absurd idea I’ve ever read.

FTEngineerM · 11/03/2021 12:59

Wait, so your friend thinks that say if you take donor milk from someone who has Down Syndrome the baby will then somehow develop Down Syndrome too?

FTEngineerM · 11/03/2021 13:00

As an aside: I’d probably go to Google scholar for questions like this rather than an anon Internet forum.

Veterinari · 11/03/2021 13:10

Do you think you absorb cow genes when you drink cows milk or eat beef? Or chicken genes when you eat chicken?
If not then why do you think you'd absorb human genes from breast milk?

KD99 · 11/03/2021 13:26

If its hereditary then genes need to be altered - that ain't gonna happen through breast milk. Bonkers idea and scientifically absurd

HIVpos · 11/03/2021 14:00

@HandforthParishCouncilClerk

No. You can’t even pass HIV through breastmilk.
If the Mum is HIV+ and not on medication then HIV can actually be passed on through breastmilk.
Landladymews2 · 11/03/2021 14:25

I think they aren’t necessarily saying that genes are absorbed but it seems from my reading that there’s some genetic material like exosomes and stem cells that are found in breast milk. So I think they are saying these sorts of things may alter the existing genes of the child?!?The argument about these things being digested makes sense though, otherwise everything we injest would alter our genes.

This question actually arose because they mentioned that their mother was breastfeed by someone who wasn’t her biological mother. That woman later transpired to have some serious respiratory issues. Her own mother grew up to have asthma and they had theorised that this was because of the breastmilk and the genetic material it contains!

It sounded wrong to me but I wanted to understand scientifically.

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MyGorramShip · 11/03/2021 15:36

There’s no scientific basis for her “argument”, she is stupid as fuck. Tell her a scientist said that.

MyGorramShip · 11/03/2021 15:36

And no, those papers aren’t saying that they can alter the genes of the child, ffs.

Landladymews2 · 11/03/2021 15:59

@MyGorramShip Grin
Those papers don’t show any impact from whatever genetic material thats passed unlike for example antibodies that we know help with immunity right?

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Veterinari · 11/03/2021 17:55

@Landladymews2

I think they aren’t necessarily saying that genes are absorbed but it seems from my reading that there’s some genetic material like exosomes and stem cells that are found in breast milk. So I think they are saying these sorts of things may alter the existing genes of the child?!?The argument about these things being digested makes sense though, otherwise everything we injest would alter our genes.

This question actually arose because they mentioned that their mother was breastfeed by someone who wasn’t her biological mother. That woman later transpired to have some serious respiratory issues. Her own mother grew up to have asthma and they had theorised that this was because of the breastmilk and the genetic material it contains!

It sounded wrong to me but I wanted to understand scientifically.

Exosomes aren't genetic material. Stem cell are but don't change your own genes.

Asthma is a multi factorial condition and can be triggered by a variety of environmental factors

Landladymews2 · 11/03/2021 18:36

@Veterinari Thank you so much! And would I be correct in saying nothing can change ones genes after conception?

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Veterinari · 11/03/2021 18:43

[quote Landladymews2]@Veterinari Thank you so much! And would I be correct in saying nothing can change ones genes after conception?[/quote]
No lots of things can cause genetic damage - radiation, free radicals even stress can damage DNA or shorten telomeres and predispose to diseases such as cancer for example.

But breast milk doesn't change your genetic material as it doesn't penetrate cells

Glooorb · 11/03/2021 18:47

[quote Landladymews2]@Veterinari Thank you so much! And would I be correct in saying nothing can change ones genes after conception?[/quote]
No, of course there are many things that may change one's genes. For example, radiation or random mutations can cause changes in genes, leading to cancer. There are also environmental factors which may alter the expression of the genes as well, for example, stress.

But saying that a baby drinking breast milk from a mum with a hereditary disorder that causes hereditary genetic disorders in the baby are quite something else (and very incorrect).

With the asthma example, there are many factors which may cause both the mum and the baby to suffer from asthma. For example if they both lived in a damp house, then it is hardly surprising that both of them developed asthma.

Gembie · 11/03/2021 21:50

Of course consuming DNA can’t change your genetics. If that was the case we would turn into cows after eating beef! facepalm

HandforthParishCouncilClerk · 11/03/2021 21:58

@HIVpos I should have clarified - assuming the mother is on ART.

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