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Bottle Fed - night weaning?

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tmookins · 22/02/2020 11:50

Hi all,
This is my first time posting here. I have a 13 month old boy who is very active and has never slept for particularly long stretches! Until he was almost 6 months old he would feed every 1.5-2 hours only having 2-4ozs. Sometimes we'd get 3-4 hours between feeds. Things started to improve after 6 months, he was crawling and dropped a nap. We also started weaning him and he was waking 2-3 times a night for feeds.
He started walking just before Christmas and despite illness affecting sleep, we were down to one feed in the night.
Currently he has breakfast about an hour after waking then one 6/7oz bottle (half formula half cows) about an hour or 2 after that. Lunch when he wakes from his nap which is hit or miss and may or may not go on the floor. Then he'll have maybe 5oz milk an hour or two later. We offer him dinner but he doesn't tend to eat much unless it's yogurt and fruit. He has a bath then he has his biggest milk feed (still 100% forumla) up to 9oz before bed. He can wake anywhere between 1am and 5am for milk so we change his nappy and offer him milk. Usually he'd go straight back to sleep but for the last two weeks he has been throwing up this one feed. He has had a cough and a cold and I thought that it was because he was coughing that he was bringing up his milk. I'm not so sure now. His cough isn't that bad now and we had two nights in a row last week where he didn't wake at all in the night. I don't begrudge feeding him in the night if he needs it but being thrown up on every single night is breaking me. He is then wide awake because of the upset it causes to him and me (and my husband) and it takes up to 2 hours before he's settled again. We co sleep when needed but he usually does most sleep in his cot. I just don't know if he wants the milk for comfort or if he's genuinely hungry. Sometimes he'll have nearly 8oz but most of it comes up again. We've tried baby rice in milk before bed, having a later dinner, offering water instead of milk for the night feed (that was immediately refused), less milk for the night feed (last night he threw up after only an oz). and resettling other ways before resorting to milk. Only milk works! I don't want to be cruel and have him be hungry in the night but I can't understand why he keeps bringing it back up. As I say, it's starting to take its toll on me mentally with some other stuff that's going on too and I feel like I;m going to break. One night his nappy had leaked, so I changed him, he then threw up and we both needed changing, he then wanted the rest of his milk which he then threw up in my face and we both needed changing again, Has anyone else experienced this? What is the best way to night wean a bottle fed baby - I have read lots on breastfeeding night weaning! Thanks if you made it this far!

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 22/02/2020 16:28

I can understand why you are struggling, sleep deprivation coupled with vomit is the pits.

If you want a gentle approach to night weaning, have a look at Dr Jay Gordon's method. Yes, it is written as though it's assuming you are BFing but can be easily used if you are bottle feeding Smile

Can I ask you if there is a reason that he's having so much milk in the day too? At 13 months they only really need 10 floz including the milk in food.

Would something like this work for you:

7 am Breakfast with a small cup of milk.

10.30 snack and drink. Something like half a banana and some water or cheese cubes and diluted oranges juice.

12 noon lunch with a small cup of milk

After nap, say around 2.30 a snack and diluted fruit juice. Something like cheese straws with quartered cherry tomatoes, or a Scottish oatcake with smooth nut butter.
[[http://www.babyledweaning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22215
Dinner around 5 then his bedtime bottle.

I think if you do that, plus the night weaning, you might get his milk down to more like the recommended amount, plus you'll get some sleep.

If you would like some more info on why he should be eating and drinking,]] https://www.cwt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/CHEW-1-4YearsPracticalGuide3rd-Edition.pdf this is a well researched guideSmile

JiltedJohnsJulie · 22/02/2020 16:31

Gawd, not sure what happened with my links.

the guide on food and drink for 1 to 4 year olds is here

And the Cheese Straw recipe is here Smile

littleduckeggblue · 22/02/2020 16:36

That's a lot of milk he's having.
Has he maybe got phlegm on his chest and he's coughing that up which then makes him sick because of the coughing.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 22/02/2020 16:47

Can I ask how much milk he's having in the night too?

I've added up the daytime feeds to around 22 floz, which is more like the amount for a 7 to 9 month old, but I'm guessing it's more than that if he's drinking milk in the night too?

What are his centiles like too OP? Is he tracking the same centiles for his height and weight? Sometimes tall babies do need more milk than is recommended but at 13 months he should be getting much more of his nutrition from food rather than milk Smile

tmookins · 23/02/2020 20:41

Thank you @JiltedJohnsJulie I hadn't thought he was having too much milk but I will look at reducing this. I was more worried that because he's such a fussy eater that he wouldn't be getting the nutrients he needs.
Thank you for the links and advice.

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 23/02/2020 21:23

It can be a vicious circle can't it? You are worried they're not eating, so you give milk but then they don't eat because they've had the milk. My friend was like this with her DD and she barely ever ate anything until my DF cut the milk right back Smile

Was the link on night weaning of any use?

JiltedJohnsJulie · 28/02/2020 08:40

How are you getting on @tmookins?

tmookins · 02/03/2020 09:50

Sorry for delay. It’s been awful. He’s up every 1-2 hours in the night most nights and my husband and I are disagreeing over sleep training. He’s had enough and wants to sleep train and I will never sleep train. We’re both exhausted, frustrated and desperate. I don’t know what else to try that isn’t sleep training but I just can’t bring myself to do it.

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 02/03/2020 20:36

Did her night weaning method I linked to sound like it might be a compromise between CIO and what you have now?

FraterculaArctica · 02/03/2020 20:43

Speaking as someone who was also "exhausted, frustrated and desperate" - my advice from the other side is to night wean. Choose a method you're happy with (in our case, we gradually pushed forward through the night the time we were prepared to give milk, before then they had to settle by other means) until night feeding was dropped altogether. It worked with 2 DC, even DC1 who I thought it would make no difference to. 13 months is a good time, we did it at 11-12 months with ours.

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