Baby Milk Action's take on the latest row re Jordan

[hunkermunker]

Interesting, I thought

it was "bored of it" actually, gramatically correct.

yes anotherdayanotherholler, if you are going to change your name to say something bitchy then take good care to actually say something worth listening too, eh?
because it is tiresome to show yourself up as a cowardly little worm and still be ignored isn't it?

No, I won't give it a bloody rest.

I think it's rude to post on threads to say "shut up about this" or "I'm bored of this".

There's a big board out there - go and find some other threads you're more interested in posting on.

ADAH, I won't rise to it, so take your bitching somewhere else, please.

I think Jordan's 'example' and her 'impact' is not that she is formula feeding, but that she has promoted formula milk and that this is unethical.

I don't understand Another's trolly posts - she seems to be saying the 'breastfeeding lobby' are wrong to be concerned about issues of ethical marketing and promotion...surely not?

actually, thank god you pointed it out.
it is of course completely lunacy to care about women and babies and their health and to try and help them.
god, thank god you have helped me see the light.

Hc - I don't change my name and I'm still ignored ........perhaps I should change my name and "re-post" all my threads and posts

er, yes i have changed my name but it is the name i will be keeping thank you. i am not hiding behind a name change so dont assume.

Tiktok, she's calling us loonies.

Charming, eh?

I'm consoling myself with my superiority and smugness though, so I'm OK.

[sigh]

Hunker - I have a question.. why did the UK end up with much lower rates of breastfeeding than the Scandinavian countries?

Yes. I know that.

However, I think criticising Jordan was the wrong way to go on this. I think sticking to complaining that SMA were breaking the law would play better.

It is possible to agree with the substance yet still think it could have been handled more effectively.

oh splendid, so what was your name before you changed it, twenty minutes ago, just out of interest

Hunker, I'm a nutter and I make women feel guilty, and in my spare time I'm aggressive. Any time left over, I spend it on a bit of indoctrination.

It's exhausting, I tells ya....

but hunker you are a loony

QoQ who could possibly ignore you

It is interesting to me that those who scream tolerance the loudest often seem to be the ones who find it hardest to practice.
for my part, I support bf purely to make other women feel guilty. still I don't have much else to crow about in my life so it fills the yawning emptiness

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Tiktok, do you have any time left over for judging with your hectic schedule?

TheBlonde, Tiktok probably knows more about the statistics than me re Scandinavia. In fact - here's one of her posts about it from another thread a while ago:

"Can we correct something about Norway? Norway was never a bottle feeding society like ours. In the 70s, bf rates had fallen, but initiation rates never went below 90 plus per cent...it was the use of formula at two to three months that worried the authorities. They never had stats like ours.

After the war, Norway was a very small, relatively poor, scattered population, and it was just not attractive to formula manufacturers who really started to push formula elsewhere in Europe and the US and Australia in the 50s and 60s. So in Norway, they never really got 'hold' of mothers and professionals the way they did here. When action was taken to protect breastfeeding, there was nothing like the cultural shift that would be needed here. They got in quickly, and turned things round, and because most women still started to breastfeed, the job was a lot easier than it would be here."

fio I know for a fact that you would insult us in your own name
that is quite interesting about Norway, is that the same for other scandinavian countires?

TheBlonde - the Scandi coutries were never full-on bottle feeding societies, ever. There was a blip in the 70s when mothers started to switch to bottles rather earlier than before, and the stats showed a drop to about 50 per cent or something round about the age of 3 mths, and this was turtned back again by prevention of formula promotion, basically, which had never really taken off anyway. The whole skill and support for breastfeeding never had a chance to disappear - everyone always at least started to bf.

Reasons for this include the distance of these relatively small populations from Europe which made it harder for companies to promote to and to distribute formula milk - these are a few million people scattered all the way to the Arctic circle and beyond. In the 20 years or so after the war, these populations were not especially affluent, so no spare cash for formula. They were relatively unindistrialised countries, so no need for mothers to be separated from babies when they were at work (one of the reasons for early weaning to bottle in the rest of Europe); women didn't work outside the home in the war either (non-combattant countries).

So as I understand it, their social and economic differences protected them from full-on marketing of formula, and this protected their breastfeeding for longer.

Thank you

Oooh, hunker, groundhog day!!

I am so pleased I am saying basically the same thing.....

Look, I'm not saying she isn't at fault. I'm thinking of the message criticising her, at the expense of the company, and how that looks.

And I know the company was also criticised, but as I said earlier, the media are likely to concentrate on Jordan for sure.

I don't think it was effective lobbying. That's all. And being pro-bf, I care that the message is put across effectively.

i do think it but i should have not said it.
I didnt change my name how you mean, just for this but maybe im being a bit bold [too bold)because its a new name. sorry to all.