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If you're having problems bfing and you're wondering whether or not to phone a breastfeeding supportline...

49 replies

hunkermunker · 06/08/2007 16:04

Do.

The women on the other end want to help you. They're trained to help you and what's more, they'll get satisfaction from helping you.

So there

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moondog · 06/08/2007 20:04

JARM,what Hunker always says is useful too.

Tell yourself you will do it for today and see how you feel tomorrow.

Also,like riding a bike,it is a skill and a skill takes time and patience to master.Really hope you crack it this time.

Btw,is yous dh out of the army now? Must have missed those threads a few months back.

moondog · 06/08/2007 20:04

How awful Choolie.

CarGirl · 06/08/2007 20:13

JARM find out who your local NCT bf counsellors are now, perhaps see if you can contact them tell them that you didn't get it to work last time and when your due date is etc. They should also be able to tell you when & where all the local "drop in" bf clinics etc are - in my wider area there is one every day Mon-Fri for a couple of hours, some of them are a drive away but close enough IYSWIM?

Just a thought, I had difficulties all 3 times and couldn't have done it without their help & encouragement (and trips to the cranial osteopath)

so my final tip find out your local cranial osteopaths birth trauma & tightness can stop them being able to open their mouths wide enough to get a pain free latch.

katierocket · 06/08/2007 20:19

I've had mixed experiences. Have phoned them quite a few times - NCT, La Leche, and Breastfeeding Network. Some were absolute amazing and gave really helpful advice, some pretty useless and sounded like I was bothering them.

JARM · 06/08/2007 20:33

thanks guys.

Moondog - his "official" discharge date was yesterday so he is now a free man!

We are moving to the seaside at the end of the month to start a new life from scratch so loads going on, but this is my biggest concern at the moment! Sill as it sounds, its something that i find myself getting so worked up about because i WANT to do it, but dont know how!!!

moondog · 06/08/2007 20:51

Oh really? What a coincidence. Best of luck with the new start.

Advice on getting contact details beforehand really good.

Don't try and imagine it beforehand too much.Could you imagine sex before doing it? Childbirth? Pregnancy? Yet you managed all those with a bit of practice.

CarGirl · 06/08/2007 20:54

Another thought - read a couple of decent bf books, I knew it wasn't supposed to hurt etc Also this time around you already know how to look after a newborn baby it's just the bf bit that is new.

Enjoy your new life btw

pinkspottywellies · 06/08/2007 21:10

Great thread! I agree, definitely ring. I phoned my local NCT bf councellor although I didn't have a problem with the technicalities of feeding but dd wasn't putting on much weight and hv was pushing me to give formula. I knew dd was fine but I was feeling pressured and the councellor was great. Then dd started piling the weight on again in her own good time!

blueshoes · 06/08/2007 22:12

I phoned an NCT helpline after dd was discharged from hospital (heart op). She had to be starved after the surgery during which time I pumped. But when dd was ready to take full feeds from the breast, I found my supply had dwindled tremendously and she was crying at every feed and very unsettled.

So I called the helpline and asked about whether my breasts were empty and how best to boost supply, considering dd was put on every hour and still unsettled. I was asking about the capacity of breasts to store milk etc,. I don't think the person who took the call knew very much. Just gave me the standard line that if I put dd on, that would stimulate more milk. Yes, I KNOW that - but why is my dd crying so much for days?

I wanted science. I could have known that from a bogstandard NCT leaflet. Not very helpful.

PrettyCandles · 06/08/2007 22:26

Goood that you posted the 'other' association's numbers, Hunker. People often assume the NCT line is the only one, but of course it isn't.

It's well worth calling them. Sometimes it's true they are busy and you don't get through (I agree with Aitch's suggestion that you get your dh to do the calling), but, at least with the NCT one, you can leave a message and someone will get back to you. I found it terribly demoralising that I couldn't get through to anyone on the NCT line last autumn, but OTOH got fantastic help from the BFN.

And you can call/talk again and again. With dd I cried on several NCT BFC shoulders via the helpline over a period of weeks.

Hooray for teh breastfeeding suppport helplines!

PrettyCandles · 06/08/2007 22:27

(Yes, I know I got teh apostrophe worng.)

terramum · 06/08/2007 22:51

Prettycandles...does the NCT guarrantee to call you back within a certain time if you leave a message? I know several LLL leaders who purposely don't have answer machines so they don't leave women waiting for a call back...instead they have a message with the numbers of the other local elders to try. I know when I came out of hospital & started phoning all the local BFC numbers I quite liked just dialling until I got through to an actual person as I didn't want to wait to speak to someone...maybe that was because I had had to wait for several days to escape hospital & start finding some proper advice...but I'm not sure I like the idea of trusting a piece of technology to not lose me & leave me feeling bad about chasing a call if I don't hear back from them iyswim...

Place · 07/08/2007 00:04

Can I please say that the ABM have a new phone number which now makes it cheaper to callers to ring - please pass it on it's 08444 122 949

elkiedee · 07/08/2007 00:41

JARM, I've failed this time to bf but am planning to try again if I get to have another child. I would definitely make contact with bf counsellors first - I called one number, don't know whose, and just got an answerphone and didn't know what to say on it and never rang up again.

If I'd known then what I know now, it could have all been so different and that really hurts.

Also local NCT contacts where you're moving can probably give you details for any kind of breastfeeding support group etc.

And one person I so much wish I'd met is the bf counsellor employed by the NHS who works with the health visitors at a health centre 5 minutes walk from my house. I believe that if I'd known her and how to get in touch with her in the first week after my son was born might have helped.

I was given lots of leaflets and phone nos in the first few days, but wasn't in a state to understand how to access help. My advice would be, be prepared and contact all your potential supports in advance.

I think anticipating the difficulties of breastfeeding would have helped me to think about how I might overcome them, I assumed I would and just didn't know it would be so hard.

Peachy · 07/08/2007 11:43

Can i just recommend the ABM line, ABM are very strong in my home town anyway but they were fantastic when Ineded thema nd having considered their training and looked at it, there is no way you would get someone who didnt know what they were talking about (in reply to blueshoes post), its were detailed indeed ((dont know about the others).

Peachy · 07/08/2007 11:44

Elkie

you didn't 'failt' to BF, you MANAGED to raise and care for a baby- what an achievement! maybe next time you plan on doing it differently but you have not failed at anything!

sarahhal · 07/08/2007 11:58

Even though I BF both my DSes, I do wish I had had the confidence to call one of the organisations. DS2 was difficult to latch on and I didn't like either my midwife or HV who used to make me feel like I was "doing it wrong" In fact, i used to sob after they had left

elkiedee · 07/08/2007 13:00

Thanks Peachy. Sarahhal, sorry to hear you had such a tough time.

PrettyCandles · 07/08/2007 18:07

Not only do they not give you a call-back time, they also explain that the answerphone may be full and may not be able to record your message. But I don't think one ought to criticise them for that - it's a matter of trying to do the best possible for the most people, with only a limited number of volunteers.

AWopBopALoolaAWopBamBoo · 09/08/2007 16:06

actually that really rings a bell, PC. i think that was the problem when i called, that you couldn't leave a message.
it's not the charities that we're criticising, though i think, but the lack of real govt support other than in poster form. it is utter bullshit, when you think about it, that i now know 2000 times as much about bfing from reading hunker's, mears', tiktok's, harpsi's et al's posts on here than, well, any of the midwives or HVs i came across.

AWopBopALoolaAWopBamBoo · 09/08/2007 16:07

sorry, meant to say that not only could you not leave a message it was clear that you were at the back of a long queue anyway.

Meglet · 10/08/2007 09:30

I didn't know that sometimes counsellors will pop round to see you. Next time I know to ask / beg for a visit if I need it .

tiktok · 12/08/2007 22:37

Apols for the limitations of the NCT bf line ( I am an NCT bf counsellor and answer Qs on the line)...we try as hard as we can to get the message, and the service, right.

I think the recorded message is very hard to get right. We have had real problems with mothers thinking they are calling a call centre, and we do need to stress the fact that the people taking the calls are volunteers in their own homes - I know it may come across as 'so please don't bother us' to a caller who is feeling vulnerable but that's not the intention...wish we could get it right for everyone. We as volunteers have to be 'protected' a bit - we have to make people's expectations realistic, so they know that calling the line will not mean someone will zoom round to your house straight away. And the reason the service does not meet the demands of eveyone who calls ie people have to either leave a message or call again if they don't get to speak to someone is that the line runs with the inevitably limited input of about 100 volunteers for the whole country - and 450,000 mothers start breastfeeding every year!

It's great there are three other helplines as well, though they are also working with limited resrouces. I am not sure what their messages say.

If someone has had poor service in the sense of poor information or lack of support from a bfc on the NCT line, then they can, and should, say so...there is a 'feedback' option you can choose. You need to say when you called and where you called from, and the complaint will, I promise you, be dealt with.

I know not every encounter is good - even though there are only 100 or so of us, we speak to thousands of women, and there are bound to be times when it doesn't go right. But we can improve if you let us know when things need improving!

Jacanne · 12/08/2007 22:48

I just wanted to add that I have found the LLL helpline very helpful in the past - also volunteers working from home - but really lovely.

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