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Reply from Times Dr about anti depressents and breastfeeding. Opinions?

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Berrie · 30/05/2007 19:27

I tried to do a link but it didn't work so I've copied and pasted it, sorry! What do you think? I love to breastfeed dd and she loves it too and is forever pestering me now I've cut down

I am 35 and have suffered from bouts of depression for many years. During both pregnancies I was very depressed and took no medication. The depression lifted away after each baby was born. Since my periods started again last year I have had several low points each month but in no obvious pattern. Last month I felt really bad and started taking Sertraline as I am still breast feeding my 20 month old. I had an unusually long cycle and then an unusually short cycle leading me to believe that my depression is hormone related and if so, are anti depressants the best treatment? I very much dislike taking them). We have avoided doing anything to regulate my periods such as having a coil or taking the pill since I seem to be sensitive to the pregnancy hormones.
I am keen to continue breastfeeding but am worried that it would be better not to even though they are supposed to be safe. Is there such a thing as hormone related intermittant depression and if so is there an alternative treatment? Would it be best to stop breastfeeding since it isn?t really necessary now she is older? Does reducing her feeds and delaying feeds help at all other than making me feel better? Name and address withheld
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The antidepressant Sertraline, a 5HT reuptake inhibitor, was originally marketed under the brand name Lustral by Pfizer. It has a profile very similar to that of Prozac, and is a well tried and trusted drug. Sertraline has proved especially useful in treating depression that is associated with such conditions as pre-menstrual tension. It is also useful when the anxiety component of the depressive illness is predominant, as in obsessive compulsive disorders, post traumatic stress disorder and social phobias. In all cases of clinical depression the patient has some degree of anxiety, as well as the other depressive symptoms. The amount that anxiety contributes to the overall picture varies from case to case. In general SSRIs (5HT re-uptake inhibitors) are better tolerated than the older antidepressants, but it is important to make certain that liver and kidney function is, and remains, normal.
Whereas it is known that some 5HT re-uptake inhibitors can be found in the blood of babies being breast fed and in breast milk sertraline was undetectable in breast fed infants, even if it was present in a high concentration in the mother. Sertaline is therefore often considered one of the antidepressants of choice for nursing mothers who are depressed. It is always possible that the normal assessment methods for antidepressants might fail to detect tiny traces of the drug, and it is perhaps for this reason that the American Academy of Paediatrics recommends against the long term use of any of these antidepressants by nursing mothers. This advice wasn't based on any evidence of damage or adverse reaction to sertraline in babies, or even of its presence in babies who are breast fed.
Even before antidepressants were available I used to recommend that any patient who had been recently delivered and was suffering from depression should wean their baby early. Breast feeding if mother and child are enjoying it gives a baby a wonderful start, just as you have. Even so as any dairy farmer will tell you being regularly milked is very tiring, and nothing is worse for depression than becoming tired.
An excellent method for contraception for woman around 35 and more, who are in a stable relationship, is the Mirena coil. It is not without all risk of causing minor mood changes but from the experience of my practice I don't remember one patient who has had trouble from them, and in many cases the mood swings were much less once one was inserted.
Treating depression after a pregnancy is of the upmost importance, and as the reader implies keeping breast feeding going for twenty months has given the baby a head start.

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littlepicklesmum · 30/05/2007 19:31

Very interesting read berrie... Ta very much..

DimpledThighs · 30/05/2007 19:38

skim read it and it seemed a bit bolloxy to me.

mummytosteven · 30/05/2007 19:42

My gut instinct - the best advice on this issue would be from a perinatal psychiatrist, or failing that, general psychiatrist, rather than from a GP. And the doc does seem rather blinkered - bf = tiring, so bad for depressed mum.

Other than that - I started on Prozac when I was PG (which obviously wasn't the ideal, but in terms of how depressed I was etc, prescribing was the lesser evil than leaving me untreated). I was encouraged by all - obs gynae consultant, and psychiatrist to breastfeed, they all thought it was perfectly safe on Prozac.

Berrie · 30/05/2007 19:44

Thanks for taking the time Dimpled and Little. I swing between thinking oh dear better give up and I'm not a dairy cow you silly man!

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TheBlonde · 30/05/2007 19:51

link

He hasn't really answered the question about could the depression be hormone related?

Not convinced by his Mirena suggestion either - I have seen loads of MN threads about side effects from it

TheBlonde · 30/05/2007 19:52

sorry don't know why the link didn't work

lljkk · 30/05/2007 19:54

There are stories on MN from women who had terrible time with mirena coil (great physical nuisance)... in my mind those MN anecdotes, seeminly impossible according to Stuttaford's experience, much undermine everything else he said.

Berrie · 30/05/2007 20:09

Thanks for the link TheBlonde. That was part of the question I really wanted answers to. I know for a fact that this depression is not the same as before as it is so on and off and the increased depression during menstrual fluctuations seemed to point towards a hormonal problem but my GP(who has been great during my pregnancy depression) has not got much to say about this.

Yes lljkk, my own GP had already ruled out the mirena as I seemed to be so sensitive to the hormone.

mummytosteven can I refer myself do you know and would it have to be privatly or should I speak to my GP?

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harrisey · 30/05/2007 22:30

Berrie
Hope maybe tiktok will come along and answer this one!

I bf 3 children while on sertraline - in fact I was on it through a pregnancy as well. My kids area ll amazing, and one (the last one) was fed till age 2 with me onsertraline the whole way. You DONT have to cut down or stop if you dont want to.

"waening early" in depression is not good advice, IMO. I had nasty PND that left me feeling like a crappy mum - the one thing I knew I was doing right was bf. Weaning would have made me much, much worse.

You caould phone a bfc for advice - dont rely on my anecdotal evidence, you have done wonderfully but dont have to stop as one GP who dosnt obviously give bf his full support says so.

pooter · 31/05/2007 00:53

Hi berrie,
Ive been on ads for years (paroxetine 10mg), and am currently bfing my 15week old son, and have absolutely no intention of stopping until he wants to (i say that now... ) When i became pregnant my GP had a rant at me for being on ADs - as you can imagine it really upset me, even though i had read all the scientific studies i could get my hands on and come to the conclusion that it was fine. She refered me to a specialist -i think she wanted him to have a go at me too - but he was really angry with HER and said that she should know better. He wrote in my notes that i should continue to take ads and that he recommended bf - just in case any other ill informed health professional started to have a go. Just having that written down made me feel so much better - even though i knew myself from all the reading i'd done that it was perfectly fine. Basically, if the written reply you got said there was no trace of the ads in the blood of bf babies, and it makes you feel better, and your child wants it - go for it! If like me you want someone official to say its ok, then get your gp to refer you. you might be seen quicker privately, but it will in all likelihood be the same person you see. Good luck, and congrats on doing it for so long - its encouraging for newbies like me!

Berrie · 31/05/2007 08:00

harissey, thanks for your support. It's good to hear your story. You are right, the early weaning is silly advice, I don't get the feeling he is really in tune with BFing Mums. Can you remember how long the sertraline took to work? Citalopram is the one I finally clicked with before children. I've been on Sertraline for a couple of months and I still have just as many if not more down days. They do seem to have taken the edge off though and I am finding that I have more motivation to do things like execise and ironing! (I have lost half a stone) I still have days where I don't know how I'll get through and I'm counting down the minutes until dh gets home but the panic and anxiety is not as strong. I do feel a bit agitated on them though, like I've got itchy bones which is horrid!

Pooter, thanks too. They do contradict each other, I've found that too. Good luck with your little one and enjoy! It's so lovely to be able to snuggle up with my (last) baby and I've been sad this week as my breasts were full with milk I was denying her.

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