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My baby is losing weight - please help!

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TheBeastReleased · 06/04/2018 10:34

Hello, first time poster here and desperate for some advice. I apologise that this is so long and rambling - writing has never been my strong point!

I have a 6 month old baby who is breastfed, though we have been trying to get weaning going for the last month or so (a mixture of pureed food from a spoon and baby led weaning with finger foods) with limited success. He was born a big chunky baby on the 75th centile at 40 weeks, and took to breastfeeding really well, or so I thought. His latch has always been good, and I had excellent support from the breastfeeding team in the early days to make sure it was the best he could be.

All was going well until he was around three months old when my health visitor weighed him and we noticed he had dropped to the 25th centile. She reassured me that this was normal as babies often change centiles in the early months before gaining weight more steadily, however she agreed to reweigh him again after two weeks to reassure me. At that next weigh in, he had barely put on any weight at all (a couple of ounces). She reassured me again saying it could just be a blip, the effect of his vaccinations or something, and weighed him again a fortnight later. Again, his weight gain was minimal (3 ounces over two weeks). She did not seem concerned (although was increasingly concerned about my anxiety and PND) because baby's development has otherwise been fine; he is meeting all his milestones and seems like a healthy baby.

In truth, I have been really struggling. Since he was about 12 weeks he has become increasingly fussy when feeding, pulling off and crying, getting increasingly hysterical as time has gone on. Usually night time feeds are better, but during the day, every feed feels like a battle. He would show signs of hunger, I'd put him on then after a minute or two he would cry, get frustrated, pull off, scream, refuse to latch back on... I had to continuously work to settle him over the next 10-20 minutes, then try again and again. Sometimes it might take about 2 hours of trying and crying before he would settle into it and have a good feed.

It has been so so difficult. I haven't really been able to go out (other than to the short play group sessions and baby groups) because if he needed feeding when out it is just impossible. The only time he feeds well is during the night so I have been setting my alarm to wake me up every 3 hours over night to make sure he gets as much milk as possible (he pretty much sleeps through if left to his own devices) which has left me utterly exhausted. Because he doesn't feed very well, my milk supply has been pretty rubbish, so I have had to try and express milk as often as possible through the day and overnight to bring it back up again. My entire life has revolved around feeding, expressing and worrying about his weight gain and I feel utterly neurotic constantly stressing about it all. I just don't seem to be making any progress.

My health visitor is pushing for me to see the GP about my mental health and anxiety but I know there's absolutely no point. Me going on medication for anxiety/ depression is not going to magically make my baby gain weight. She suggested easing back on setting alarms and expressing and battling with him to feed for a week to see how that worked, as she felt that he would regulate his own feeds and probably do better. He didn't. He ended up losing weight and my supply was shot to pieces again so I had to then work extra hard to build it back up again.

I have been to the GP a few times about the weight/ poor feeding, who referred us to the paediatrician after baby dropped down to the 9th centile. The doctor seemed quite happy that he seemed otherwise healthy but suggested I try a dairy free diet to see if that helped. I was completely dairy/ soya free for 8 weeks, but it made absolutely no difference and the paediatrician is confident it isn't anything to do with that after all. My baby has been getting weighed pretty much every 1-2 weeks since he was four months old, each time with only minimal weight gain and a few times he has lost a couple of ounces. I just don't know what to do any more.

I should have said earlier he absolutely refuses a bottle. We have been trying him with expressed milk since he was 7 weeks old (I wanted a Christmas night out!) with absolutely no success. We have tried 6 different bottles, different people giving it to him, me leaving the house, dad and baby leaving the house to try a feed elsewhere, everything we can think of and he has had one ounce of milk at most about three times over the four months we've been trying. Weaning is still at the stage where 90% of what we give him ends up spat out or mashed into the highchair tray. Even when we give him pureed food on a spoon, he pushes most of it back out.

Two weeks ago the paediatrician prescribed him anti-reflux medication in case that was causing the problem. Out of everything we have tried, I actually feel that this has made a massive difference to his feeding. He seems much calmer and more relaxed during feeds, has stopped pulling off and crying. He seems to now feed like a "normal" breastfed baby and seems so much more content in himself. I was feeling really really positive about it all until yesterday when we went back to the hospital for review - he's lost weight again and is now below the 2nd centile. I feel gutted and have been pretty much sitting here in tears since we got home yesterday.

I'm so sorry for this marathon essay and thank you for reading if you managed to get through it all! Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated - or even any words of reassurance from those who have been through something similar! My poor boy is still in some 0-3 month clothes, and the way he's going he'll still be in them until he's two!

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QueenofmyPrinces · 06/04/2018 13:23

Hi OP, I don’t have time to reply fully now but I shall be back later. You are not alone Flowers

JiltedJohnsJulie · 07/04/2018 07:25

It sounds like you’ve had a really tough time of it OP but your HV does seem to be giving you some excellent support and advice.

You haven’t said, but I wonder if you’’ve had him checked for tongue tie?

I agree with you that taking antidepressants or having CBT won’t magically make your baby gain weight, but it will make you feel much better and that will benefit both of you as babies can often pick up on your anxiety so it should help you both.

Moving forward, I’d try some of the following:

  1. Stop pumping. How much you can pump is no indication of how much milk you can produce and is a massive use of your time, especially if he’s not taking ebm.
  1. Call one of the Bfing Helplines. I’m not trained and they are 🙂. They may have some good suggestions and might be able to put you in touch with a BFC in your area.
  1. Try Breast compressions when you are feeding in the day.
  1. Get him checked for tongue tie.

5 Have a read of How might I increase my baby’s weight gain on Kellymom.

  1. If you want to supplement, try him with a cup instead of a bottle. There are lots of old threads on bottlecrefusing if you look in the MN archive.
  1. Go to your nearest Bfing Support Group as often as you can. Even if all you get from it is a Brew and some adult company.
  1. Try him with sone high calorie foods, things like salmon, sardines, avocado, smooth nut butter, obviously though not mixed together 🙂. If you are giving purees, add a little olive oil.
  1. Call the apni.org and talk about how you feel.

Good luck OP and let us know how you get on Smile

Waitingforsherlock · 07/04/2018 07:49

Hi OP, you have my sympathy- feeding issues take up all of the space in your mind until you can't think about anything else. The weighing looms and when the baby has lost weight comes the crashing disappointment. I had a similar scenario with my dc3 but she was younger than yours. I was valiantly feeding her what felt like all day and all night but I just wasn't making enough milk. Through a regime of BF and topping up, I eventually got her gaining weight again and managed to get her back to fully BF. She had started off on the 99th centile and ended up somewhere near the bottom.

I second the Kelly Mom website, I found the advice useful. I wondering if the fighting the breast is because of reflux, something to do with let-down or latch not being quite right. It becomes a vicious cycle of everyone being stressed when it comes to feeding time. Has anyone looked at the latch? Sometimes something can just be a bit out and it changes the feeding process all together. I found it much better when I propped my dd up across my front as she was too low to feed comfortably. I used one of those V shaped cushions to support her.

I would seek some help too. I ended up with PND and anxiety; please ask for some support as you sound as if you are in a tough situation.

Best of luck Flowers

HalfStar · 07/04/2018 17:20

Can he hold bits of food yet to feed himself? Is it that he doesn't like the spoon?

How about you make up some calorie heavy mush or dips - anything from beef stew to yoghurt or avocado and banana - and dip some toast sticks or organix carrot sticks into the mush and give it to him? I got some good calories into my on the lighter side babies this way.

I'd also skip the expressing and instead give him porridge made with formula milk. And then just breastfeed as normal without the pressure and see if the reflux meds continue to make a difference?

HalfStar · 07/04/2018 17:22

I'm sure you've tried this but if he gets distracted during a breastfeed sometimes it helps to put on white noise, stand up and walk around while feeding, tapping them on the bum the whole time Hmm

BunloafAndCrumpets · 07/04/2018 18:23

Op this sounds like my daughter. She was diagnosed with CMPA; she was mix fed so I cut out dairy and she had non allergenic formula prescribed. Was like a different child within about two days. Just a thought. Good luck.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 07/04/2018 18:35

Have you managed to read any of the links yet @TheBeastReleased? Smile

Mishappening · 07/04/2018 18:39

It sounds as though it is being properly monitored and that must be reassuring. If a paediatrician thinks your baby is healthy then that is good.

My 3 babies were very different when it came to weight - bf, but one was a chubster and another was a skinny little thing.

I do not think that ignoring the PND and anxiety is helping you - I know that mothers tend to concentrate on the baby above all else; but you matter too.

Goosegettingfat · 07/04/2018 18:41

Firstly Thanks well done for persevering in such tough times. Bf is truly hard work. It's such a shame that this myth is perpetuated that is isn't.

I had a similar experience with my ds- also a big baby and also bf. The hv put the fear of god into me about it all. In the end I opted just to stop seeing her (which i honestly believe helped solve the problem because feeding improved because I was less stressed). I took this decision after a very sensible (female) doctor said "goodness, all this frantic feeding and weighing every couple of days must be very exhausting and counter productive. He's still a good weight for his age, why don't you come back and see us in a week or 10 days". Also- we found the main problem was that I was using nipple shields. Are you?

Ds btw is a bouncing, lively 1yo, and still a chunk.

QueenofmyPrinces · 08/04/2018 06:36

Hi OP, I’m sorry things are seeming so bleak Flowers

I have a 7.5 month old who was born just under the 91st percentile who gradually dropped and dropped to below the 25th percentile which is where he sits now.

He has had a tongue tie repair done twice, once at 9 days of age and again at 4 months of age. I had him assessed again at 4 months of age as his weight gain was still really poor and I just wanted to check his latch was ok. To be honest I wasn’t expecting to be told his TT had reattached but at least it gave me a possible reason for the weight issues. After having it snipped his weight then stabilised. Frequently coming in and off the breast was the main indicator that there was a problem with his tongue.

He was also diagnosed as CMPA at 9 weeks of age and I’ve been Dairy Free ever since. Going dairy free hasn’t made the slightest difference to his weight but it’s certainly helped with feeding because he stopped being in pain whilst feeding. Prior to me going dairy free he’d be arching his back at the breast, crying whilst feeding, squirming whilst feeding etc etc, he clearly did not enjoy feeding and would push away from me all the time.

He’s also been on ranitidine since he was about a month old.

I would say from the age of two months up until now his weight has been a constant worry to me. Some weeks his gains would be awful and some weeks he’d actually have lost. We’ve been referred to a Paediatrician, an Allergist and a Dietician, all of whom I’m seeing in the upcoming months.

My son will not take any bottle or any cup so offering him formula or expressed milk is not an option. Instead though I pump off about 6 ounces every day and add to his foods (where possible) throughout the day because logic tells me it’s the equivalent of getting another feed into him.

Weaning is actually a huge nightmare as it’s transpiring he’s got other allergies too but I’m taking it day by day. I have been in tears over the whole thing many, many times over the last few months, the whole thing is so emotionally difficult. When I used to get him weighed and see another really rubbish gain my heart would plummet and I would feel absolutely devestated, confused and like a bad mother. It really is so upsetting so I understand your feelings.

I seem to be getting hold of my emotions now though but only because his weight has stabilised (near enough), I can’t imsgibe how I would be feeling if it was continuing to drop. Do you have real life support around you to reassure you? I don’t know about you but I actually felt quite lonely when dealing with the weight and allergy issues, I felt like nobody understood just how demoralising and draining the whole thing was.

All the professionals kept telling me what a happy baby he was and how he was meeting all his milestones etc so I shouldn’t worry but to be honest they just feel like platitudes, cliches and not at all reassuring.

Loops81 · 08/04/2018 22:39

It’s really important that you do get help for your anxiety and depression as it’s unlikely to be solely related to your baby’s feeding. I really feel for you as I’ve been through similar with my two babies - slightly different as they have stayed fairly steady on 25th centile, but similar in that they have had tiny appetites, been distracted by anything and everything when feeding and caused me a lot of stress. It’s hard not to feel like you’re doing something wrong and that you have to plan your entire day around their needs, but as you have probably discovered it doesn’t make the slightest difference to how much they feed it you do stress about it! I don’t have a solution really but I will say that despite still being small, my first is now a healthy, outgoing four year-old who eats like any normal child (meaning, still fairly fussy sometimes!). So my advice would be to sort yourself out some counselling so you can chat things through with someone objective; keep an eye on the weight but listen to the health professionals when they tell you they’re not worried; and try to get out and do normal things - and enjoy your amazing baby - knowing that the kid will NOT let himself starve! You’re doing your best and the size of your baby is in no way a reflection of your worth as a mother.

fleetingthinker · 08/04/2018 23:05

Where you definitely completely dairy and soya free? DS is allergic to dairy and soy and it's in absolutely everything.

It took me a very long time to get on top of the diet and I needed to cut out traces and 'may contain' too. He also turned out to have an egg allergy.

He had horrible reflux and was on medicine until two when I realised eggs were a problem. Then it resolved completely.

TheBeastReleased · 09/04/2018 09:01

Thank you all so much for your kind messages - it is so, so helpful to hear from other mums who have been through something similar and come out the other side in one piece!

I am feeling a bit better today after having a good weekend. I decided to bite the bullet and go out with my husband and baby on Saturday, and although I was quite worried about feeding out and about, it was absolutely fine. Baby's feeding definitely seems better now, so I'm just hoping that it'll actually increase his weight when he's weighed next week.

Thanks so much for the suggestions and links above. I'd looked at the Kellymom website a few months ago when the issues first arose, but it was really good to go back to the basics again because I feel like my mind has been going into overdrive these last couple of months.

And thanks so much for suggesting mixing my expressed milk into the food I'm giving him - I've got a freezer draw full of the stuff because he refuses it from a bottle so it'll be a good way to use it up and hopefully get a few extra calories into him!

I forgot to mention in my original post that we had seen a IBC lactation consultant at the end of January who thought my latch and everything seemed good and he seemed to be able to transfer milk effectively. She thought he had a slight posterior tongue tie (he had an anterior one divided at 7 days old) but didn't think this would effect his feeding as he had a good latch and strong suck. I'm now questioning whether I should have pushed for a referral then to get it divided anyway, as maybe it's been adding to the issues? I'm not sure.

I think I was pretty good at excluding all dairy and soya from my diet - I am coeliac so very used to looking carefully at food labels to make sure there's not even a trace of gluten in things, and I was really really stringent about it. It didn't seem to make any difference to his feeding and irritability so I'm hoping we're right in assuming it's not an allergy, although I didn't try excluding eggs, so I hope it's not that.

My health visitor is coming out again next Monday to weigh him again and discuss weaning him onto a high calorie diet. Good shout above about things like avacados to get extra calories into him - I'll try him with some today.

Thanks again for all your kind messages of support and sorry I don't know how to tag people's names to answer you all individually. I'll let you know how I get on. And for those going through something similar I hope things improve!

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scrabbledabbl · 22/12/2022 21:48

Hi @TheBeastReleased please can you let me know what happened in the end with your little one and weight gain did they find a reason did it stabilise eventually etc I begrudgingly a baby ego has dropped 4 centiles and I'm so scared xx

botsytots · 16/07/2025 15:27

Hi @TheBeastReleasedi wanted to check if you have any updates on how your little one is doing now and whether their growth improved as time went on? I’m having the exact same issue as you with my 6 month old - he was born on the 91st centile and is now between the 9th and 2nd. Very worried and not sure what to do as we’ve already looked down the CMPA route and it doesn’t seem to be that

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