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sunnyjim · 13/04/2007 12:09

very long post - sorry

this is my frist draft of a non preachy leaflet for parents about feeding their child. Its designed to give advice and information but NOT to say BFing or FFing is 'best'.

Please don't flame this thread, if you have an honest objection to some information please say so - I didn't make any of this up I blagged it from variuos sites of reputable organisations and I can try and give you references if you need them.

I'd be really interested in any additional information people think would be useful.

I didn't include a list of FAQ for BFers or FFers as I thought of this as a first leaflet. I'd see a FAQ leaflet coming along seperatly.

I have tried to distinguish between breastsucking (actually givng your baby milk directly from your breast), bottle feeding and formula milk

I'd like to jig things around a bit so the section on 'how to feed your child' becomes more general to begin with as alot of the advice about being comfortable, timing, positioning etc is similar. Then go into seperate sections for bottle/breast, and finally a seperate setion specifically for formula.

The reason I'd do it like this is so that anyone reading it gets the feeling that all parents/carers share alot of the same experiences when feeding their baby regardless of type of milk or feeding method.

Feeding your child

How can I feed my baby?

There are two choices about the type of milk you give your child

Breastmilk or formula milk

If you give breastmilk you can directly breastfeed, you can express breastmilk and it can be given via a bottle, you can get stored breastmilk from a milk bank

Formula milk can be bought in most supermarkets and chemists and your hospital should have supplies as well. Formula is given in a bottle.

Do I have to choose?
You can mix feed your baby, this means giving some breast milk and some formula.
You should not mix milks in the same bottle but you can swap between Bmilk and Fmilk in one feed or in different feeds.

When do I have to choose?
You can make the decision at any point; you do not have to tell anyone unless you want to ask for help or advice.

Can I change my mind?
It is relatively easy to change from one milk to another.
It can take a little time to change from Breastsucking to bottlesucking
If you have decided not to BF your milk supply will diminish over a week or two, after this time it would be more difficult to feed your baby your own Bmilk.

Breast feeding

(those items marked * are pros or cons which are ONLY relevant if you are breast sucking/expressing as well as using breast milk)

Benefits
· Helps your uterus get back into shape*
· It's a complete and balanced nutrition for an infant
· Gives baby protective antibodies (to protect her from illness)
· The milk is always warm
· Breastmilk is easier for your baby to digest
· Baby's diapers smell less offensive (mild smelling bowel movements)
· More convenient - doesn't need to be mixed and bottles don't need to be washed and sterilized* (this only applies to direct breast sucking, not to expressing)
· You get to eat an extra 500 calories*
· Reduces your chances for breast cancer*
· The mother has the satisfaction of knowing she is solely responsible for providing her child with basic needs*

Cons
· You need to watch your diet ? alcohol, caffeine, ?junk? fatty or spicy foods should be treated with caution
· No-one else can give baby a feed (this only applies to direct breast sucking, not to expressing)
· Medical conditions such as HIV or AIDS or those that involve chemotherapy or treatment with certain medications may make breastfeeding inadvisable.
· Can be painful at first

Formula feeding
Those items marked * are applicable if bottle feeding whether it is Fmilk or Bmilk in the bottle

Pro?s
· Other people can help with the feedings*
· Dad can enjoy the feeding/bonding experience of directly caring for his child in the most basic manner*
· It can be easier for your baby to enter nursery or childcare*
· Non birth parents can raise a baby (gay couples, adoptive parents)*
· Birth mother can get more uninterrupted sleep*
· Provides balanced nutrition for babies when birth other is unable to give breastmilk
· If mother has emotional issues regarding her breasts/body/food (abuse, eating disorder etc) bottlefeeding enables her to still feed her baby

Cons
· Formula costs money
· Fully formula fed babies do not get the antibodies present in breastmilk
· Bottle feeding (formula or expressed/stored milk) requires equipment*

How to breastfeed
Breast milk is produced because of your baby's suckling at the breast, so put him to the breast as soon as possible after delivery. Your midwife is there to help you. Ask her help in finding the most comfortable position for you, and to help get your baby correctly positioned at your breast.

During the first few days your breasts will produce colostrum, a thick yellowish liquid. This is rich in proteins and vitamins and, although it may not seem a very large amount, it is very good for your baby. The more frequently you put him to the breast in the first few days, the more quickly you will begin to produce breast milk. This generally happens in about 3 days.

Once your milk has 'come in', you will probably feel a tingling in your breasts each time you are ready to feed and your breasts may begin to leak. This is known as the 'let down' reflex. You may also feel mild tummy pain, which is your womb contracting as you feed.
Positioning yourself
Sitting up straight in a chair, hold your baby across your lap at the same level as your breasts. You may need to put a pillow under him, or put your feet on a low stool.

If you are in hospital in bed, ask the midwife to help you find a comfortable position. It is important that you feel comfortable and relaxed, as you will probably be breastfeeding for about 30 minutes each time.

Positioning your baby
Turn your baby's body to face you with his head resting on your forearm, not in the crook of your arm. You may want to support his neck and head from behind with your other hand.
Remember to bring your baby to your breast and not your breast to the baby.

Starting the feed
Tuck his body in close to yours and brush his lips against your nipple. As his mouth opens wide like a yawn, move his head smoothly onto your breast so he can take a big mouthful.

Make sure your baby's chin, bottom lip and tongue touch your breast first and that enough of your breast is in his mouth so your nipple is towards the back of his mouth. There should be a small gap between your breast and his nose.

Remember...
Babies don't 'nipple feed', they breastfeed. It is important for both of you that your baby is correctly positioned - to make sure your milk supply is stimulated, to avoid getting sore nipples and to ensure your baby is feeding properly. You should feel his tongue and jaws working against your breast and see his ears and temples moving slightly.

If he doesn't take enough breast into his mouth, put your little finger in the corner of his mouth to gently ease it off your nipple and start again.

During the feed
Once your baby is properly positioned, relax and let the feed happen.

Each time you breastfeed, the first milk is thinner foremilk to quench the baby's thirst followed by the calorie rich hindmilk to satisfy his hunger. That's why it's important not to hurry a feed. Your baby should feed as long as he likes from one breast and then be offered the other.

He may not want more, in which case offer that breast first at the next feed.

Frequency of feeds
The more you feed your baby, the more your breasts will be stimulated to produce more milk. By feeding 'on demand' you should produce all the milk he needs.

Most babies cry to let you know when they need to feed. This is often every 2-3 hours day and night in the early weeks and each feed may take up to half an hour.

How to bottlefeed

How often should I feed my baby?
Offer the bottle every two to three hours at first or as your baby seems hungry.

Sterilise equipment
Before you first use new bottles, nipples, and rings, you should sterilize them by submerging them in a pot of boiling water for at least five minutes. Then allow them to dry on a clean towel.

Methods of sterilisation:
· Boiling ? as above
· Steam sterilisation, this uses a microwave to steam clean. You buy a special bowl/holder and place all bottles inside it, add some water. Then put in the microwave for 5-10 minutes. (read manufacturers instructions)
· You can also buy smaller bags for microwave sterilisation that can be used when travelling.
· Tablet sterilisation, you can buy sterilising tablets in chemist and most supermarkets. Follow the instructions on the packet.

What's the best way to warm a bottle?
There's no health reason to feed a baby warmed milk but your baby may prefer it. When you're ready to feed your baby, you can warm a bottle in a pan of hotnot boilingwater, or by running it under the tap; you can also buy a bottle warmer designed for this purpose.

Never use a microwave to heat a bottle of breast milk or formula; since a microwave oven heats unevenly, it can create hot pockets, leading to burns and cause a breakdown of the nutrients.

If you warm a bottle, test it in advance to make sure it's not too hot for your baby. The easiest way to test the temperature is to shake a few drops on the inside of your wrist.

Choosing formula
Newborn babies should never be fed ?progress? or follow on milks.
There are many different brands of formula, it is possible to get Soya or Lactose free formula for babies with lactose intolerance, please consult a GP or HV before using any special formula?s such as ?stay down? or soya.
Organic formula is also available if you prefer this.
It is advisable to find out which formulas your local shops stock for convenience
It's important to choose a formula that is iron-fortified. Low-iron formulas are available due to the belief that iron makes babies gassy and constipated, but studies have found this to be untrue.
Most formulas come in a powder or concentrate form (both of which you mix with water) or ready-to-feed form (the most convenient and expensive option).

Read the directions. Be sure to follow the manufacturer's directions exactly for the formula type you choose. Too much water and your baby won't get the calories and nutrients she needs; too little water and the high concentration of formula could cause diarrhoea or dehydration. Powdered formula usually comes with a measuring scoop ? always use this and not a normal spoon.

Prepare the formula. Bring the water you plan to use in the formula to a boil for approximately one minute. Then add it to the formula powder. If you're preparing this in advance, be sure to store it in the refrigerator. If the formula is left out of the refrigerator for longer than one hour or if you don't use refrigerated formula within 24 hours, throw it out.

How can I make sure my baby is drinking comfortably?
If you hear a lot of noisy sucking sounds while she drinks, she may be taking in too much air. To help your baby swallow less air, hold her at a 45-degree angle. Cradle her in a semi-upright position and support her head. Don't feed her lying down -- formula can flow into the middle ear, causing an infection. To prevent your baby from swallowing air as she sucks, tilt the bottle so that the formula fills the neck of the bottle and covers the nipple.

Never prop a bottle. Besides not providing you or the baby with time for bonding and snuggling, it can cause the baby to choke. Bottle-feeding, like breastfeeding, can be a wonderful time for nurturing your baby by holding her close.

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MrsBadger · 13/04/2007 12:12

Not yet read it all, but I would contest
"It is relatively easy to change from one milk to another. "
as this risks giving the impression that after 4months of formula bottle feeding one could switch to what you refer to as 'breastsucking'.
I know you've qualified it in the following paragraph but I don't think it's a good sentence to start the section with.

alex8 · 13/04/2007 12:15

have never heard that junk or fatty food makes one iota of difference. People sometimes say they have problems with certain fruit and veg. But most women don't

zippitippitoes · 13/04/2007 12:17

um "breastsucking" why isn't it breastfeeding?

Daisybump · 13/04/2007 12:19

sunnjim....on the FF bit on preparation you say add the water to the formula..... this could mislead people into putting in say 8 scoops then filling up to the 8fl oz mark which would cause the mix to be too concentrated. I would just say 'mix according to manufacturer's instructions' and leave it at that.

SoupDragon · 13/04/2007 12:23

I hate the phrase "breastsucking"!

"you can get stored breastmilk from a milk bank" Is this true?? I was under the impression that milk at a milk bank was used in the hospital, say in SCBU.

"The mother has the satisfaction of knowing she is solely responsible for providing her child with basic needs"
and
"Dad can enjoy the feeding/bonding experience of directly caring for his child in the most basic manner"

I really hate these two points as they imply that if a baby is breastfed then the father will feel redundant. There are far more ways of bonding with a child than how you feed it. Also, the implication of the first is that a mother is somehow a failure if she does not supply her child's nutritional needs.

I think the "how to" sections should be separate leaflets, one for each.

I would be tempted to point out that the "normal" formulas are all pretty much the same and the choice is personal preferance.

SoupDragon · 13/04/2007 12:27

If you're in the UK I'd ditch the word "diaper"

Why is it necessary to refer to the baby as "she". Can't ethey jus tbe a "they"?? This is something that has always irritated me rather more than it should

tiktok · 13/04/2007 12:28

Sunnyjim, good on you for actually attempting to do this.

But there are so many errors of fact and interpretation in it, I would sound horrible if I listed them all.

You have cut and pasted from sites which are not even UK sites - hence your advice to choose an 'iron fortified' formula which are not available for new babies in the UK.

You can't just say there are no antibodies in formula milk and leave it at that. Parents need to know what this means, short and long term, for their baby's health.

You have nothing about the new guidance on making up bottle feeds.

I could go on, but I won't.

The NHS leaflet on bottle feeding is pretty good - I am busy at the moment so no time to bring it up on the web, sorry.m

BizzyDint · 13/04/2007 12:37

oh no i don't like quite a lot of this. good idea yes, but the wording isn't right. for example, you're putting the cons of formula milk, but only three of them. they are not all the cons. also, it s perfectly possible to continue bf when you return to work and your baby is at nursery/cm. plenty babies just have milk morning and night from mum. a mum shouldn't be swayed from bf because they plan to use childcare.

also the breastsucking thing has to go. that's just not the right phrase. apart from anything, babies suckle the breast, not suck.

amijee · 13/04/2007 12:42

I just wanted to point out the bit at the beginning on mixed feeding.

It needs to be pointed out that if you mix feed from early on you are in danger of diminishing milk supply. Some mums are lucky and can get away with it - but we are all different.

Pruni · 13/04/2007 12:56

Message withdrawn

amijee · 13/04/2007 13:06

actually pruni - i agree - I don't restrict my diet at all

MrsBadger · 13/04/2007 13:08

Have read it all now and am afraid I agree with Tiktok .

Who is your target audience ie where do you see this leaflet being handed out?

FrannyandZooey · 13/04/2007 13:11

I am thinking that it is vital to have some training or experience in this field before attempting to write such a leaflet. It is crucial that the information given is correct in this situation.

This is not intended to be a flame but an honest objection as stated in your OP

LucyJu · 13/04/2007 13:12

I think the term "breastsucking" is very off-putting and distracting. If you want to make it clear that you are talking about expressed breat milk as well as infant formula, perhaps you could intrroduce the initials "ebm".

If I were writing it, I might be tempted to list the benefits for the baby such as reduced risk of infection due to the mother passing on antibodies before "helps uterus return to its normal size". Maybe try to think what things might be most important from a new mum's perspective.

Could I be nosey and ask who the leaflet is intended for? I can see that is must be very difficult to give the facts without trying to favour one form of feeding over another.

princessmel · 13/04/2007 13:22

Agree that it should be 'breastfeeding' and not 'breastsucking'.

Also in the section about frequency of feeds, it says they may be 2-3 hourly and last for 'up to half an hour' in the first few weeks. If that was the case I'd have fed ds for much longer than I managed.
He was on me, feeding, all the time , whenever I held him, day and night. I think there should be mention of how some babies are not so regimented with their feed times. Also dd only fed for 11 mins max in the first few days then went down to 3 minutes. I was worried that this was too short but did find out that this was ok.

HTH

hercules1 · 13/04/2007 13:23

Sorry I agree with tiktok, lots of incorrect stuff there. Please dont use the term breast sucking, makes me shiver and babies don't suck.

THere are loads more benefits to breastfeeding you've missed - e.g instant calmer but the trouble is someone else will say it didnt calm their child down. So much is a personal thing and you dont know if it will apply or not.

It is not as easy as you state to sway from breast to bottle.

Breastfed babies often feed far more than 2/3 hourly.

Lots of people express when they go to work and find it actually helps their child settle in as they are able to connect again by breastfeeding in teh evening.

Not wishing to be insulting but I really don't think you are qualified enough to write such a leaflet without further causing problems to parents.

hercules1 · 13/04/2007 13:24

And babies can feed for longer than 1/2 an hour. You make no mention of the suckling that happens after the main feed is taken whtich can further stimulate the breasts.

Pruni · 13/04/2007 13:26

Message withdrawn

hercules1 · 13/04/2007 13:26

The food thing - how do you think people in India manage? I ate loads of spicey foods etc and drank alcohol. No problems.

hercules1 · 13/04/2007 13:28

another thing about breastfeeding - when your child is ill you can still breastfeed.

tiktok · 13/04/2007 13:41

blimey....poor sunnyjim

Do you think we should maybe stop with the criticisms?

Give sunnyjim a chance to come back?

Sunnyjim, everything said here about the errors and misunderstandings in your leaflet is correct (and there are loads more, too....) - you probably didn't anticipate the minefield, but getting stuff off the web is fraught with problems.....

What do you think?

hercules1 · 13/04/2007 13:43

She did ask for honest objections!

tiktok · 13/04/2007 13:49

yeh, I know!!

And these are all honest and all objections

sunnyjim · 13/04/2007 14:40

So to answer each point in turn:

When your child is ill you can still breastfeed.
Why can?t you FF if your child is ill?

I ate loads of spicey foods etc and drank alcohol. No problems.
I think the first point you make as a con of breastfeeding - about watching your diet - is factually wrong

I thought it was accepted that getting drunk, drinking lots of caffeine, taking drugs or eating a crap diet wasn?t good for your breastfed child?
I didn?t actually write that part I took it from an NHS leaflet I was given so maybe we could complain to the NHS about giving out information that is wrong?

babies can feed for longer than 1/2 an hour. You make no mention of the suckling that happens after the main feed is taken which can further stimulate the breasts.
Okay so how about the phrasing is changed to ? babies can fed for any length of time. Babies can also continue to suckling after they have taken a main feed.
Ongoing suckling can stimulate milk production

Please don?t use the term breast sucking
Okay, I was trying to differentiate between giving a baby breastmilk and breastfeeding which I have heard people use to mean using EBM as well as the actual act of breastfeeding.
I can easily change the word to suckling and or make references to using EBM.

There are loads more benefits to breastfeeding you've missed
Then tell me of them

instant calmer
no its not

It is not as easy as you state to sway from breast to bottle.
If you read carefully this was an area where I was trying to differentiate between switching between MILK types and switching between feeding METHODS. I didn't say you coudl change easily from feeding with breast to feeding with bottle, I meant if you were using a bottle for either Formula or EMB it is relativly easy to swap between milk types. Will rewrite it though as obviuosly it confused people.

Breastfed babies often feed far more than 2/3 hourly.
Okay will amend - whats best? should I take out any reference to frequency of feeds, or put feed on demand, or put something like, babies may feed anywhere between every 4 hrs and every hour.

Lots of people express when they go to work and find it actually helps their child settle in as they are able to connect again by breastfeeding in the evening.
So would you put this as a benefit to Bfing? That if your child is in daycare Bfing in the evening can help you reconnect?

Not wishing to be insulting but I really don't think you are qualified enough to write such a leaflet without further causing problems to parents.
What qualifications would you believe were appropriate?
I had no intention of handing this out at all ? I was taken to task for not attempting to do anything and just whining about a lack of support, I was also asked what type of information should be given to parents. I was making a first attempt at answering both of these points and as there are people on mumsnet with a wide variety of experiences I thought a starting point would be to ask opinions and input.

very badly placed in the list. It looks as if that's the major con of breastfeeding
So you think the specific order of the list should be changed. Okay I?ll put the bit about antibodies at the top.

It needs to be pointed out that if you mix feed from early on you are in danger of diminishing milk supply.
Okay I?ll add in that if you mix-feed you can diminish your milk supply

you're putting the cons of formula milk, but only three of them. they are not all the cons.
What are the others?

it s perfectly possible to continue bf when you return to work and your baby is at nursery/cm. plenty babies just have milk morning and night from mum. a mum shouldn't be swayed from bf because they plan to use childcare.
Okay I?ll change it to read, if you breastfeed and your child is in daycare before they go down to 2 feeds a day you will need to make arrangements to either store EBM for use at the nursery, or to give formula during the day, or to visit the nursery/childcare during the day for feeds.

Sunnyjim, good on you for actually attempting to do this.
Thank you ? nice to have someone appreciate the fact that after being judged for NOT doing anything I was trying to give up my time to do something.

But there are so many errors of fact and interpretation in it, I would sound horrible if I listed them all.
Please do list errors of fact

advice to choose an 'iron fortified' formula which are not available for new babies in the UK.
If you're in the UK I'd ditch the word "diaper"

I wasn?t intending this to be UK specific

You can't just say there are no antibodies in formula milk and leave it at that. Parents need to know what this means, short and long term, for their baby's health.
This is one point I disagree on, this is not a preachy leaflet and it isn?t the place to go into detail. Especially as the only way to give accurate information about the effect antibodies have would be to give full scientific research including the method of survey, peer review, any countervailing evidence etc.

You have nothing about the new guidance on making up bottle feeds.
Which is?

Why is it necessary to refer to the baby as "she".
Will change that

you can get stored breastmilk from a milk bank" Is this true?? I was under the impression that milk at a milk bank was used in the hospital, say in SCBU.
I was told by a BF worker that I could have got BM from a milk bank instead of giving up, and that if I adopted I could get BM from a Milk bank. If that advice was wrong I will contact the NCT branch who gave me that advice.

*The mother has the satisfaction of knowing she is solely responsible for providing her child with basic needs"
and
"Dad can enjoy the feeding/bonding experience of directly caring for his child in the most basic manner"

I really hate these two points as they imply that if a baby is breastfed then the father will feel redundant. There are far more ways of bonding with a child than how you feed it. Also, the implication of the first is that a mother is somehow a failure if she does not supply her child's nutritional needs.*

Okay I will take those points out. I included them although I disagree with both, because I had read and heard a lot of women commenting on how they enjoyed being able to feed their child themselves. I had also heard a lot of dads my own DP included saying that if they couldn?t? feed the baby they felt cut out (given that in the early days that can be the major part ie 8hrs+of babies day)
How about ?dad or cocarer will be able to share in feeding the baby?

I think the "how to" sections should be separate leaflets, one for each.
Okay, a lot of the information would be duplicated as obviously many mums who give BM also give EBM so you?d need the whole sections on bottle sterlising etc.

you say add the water to the formula..... this could mislead people into putting in say 8 scoops then filling up to the 8fl oz mark which would cause the mix to be too concentrated. I would just say 'mix according to manufacturer's instructions' and leave it at that.
Sounds better I agree ? I?ll change that part

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sunnyjim · 13/04/2007 14:41

gah - why oh why doesn't my careful formatting work?

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