Least evil formula company

[jonnywasnochemist]

Does anyone have an opinions on the least worst/least evil/fewest code violations formula milk to use? Obviously not SMA. And I know C&G and Aptimil are the same company. But is Hipp Organic actually any better for being organic? I think it's the only one claiming it has sustainable palm oil. I know they're all the same, as so tightly controlled, so would like to go for the company that is the least worst option. I don't want any expensive goat/soy/unicorn milk.

I have to formula feed my baby, for reasons I don't wish to discuss. Breastfeeding is not possible.

TIA!

If I were you I would hop off the high horse and pick the one that agrees best with your baby's digestion.

Ok babies can starve (if no other milk suits) as long as you can be a eco warrior nestle avoider! Get a grip

How is avoiding a company that has direct responsibility for babies dying in various parts of the world being an "eco warrior"?

That's a shame. Have you looked at human milk for human babies?

If it's a high horse to care about the nutrition of babies less privileged than mine, as well as my own baby, then giddyup and clip clop!

FFS, my baby won't stave on any of the other perfectly good, government controlled, formula milks.

Kendamill not sounding as good, according to Baby Milk Action. Hipp didn't feature in their, Baby Milk Action, report this year, so presumably haven't broken the rules this year.

www.babymilkaction.org/monitoringuk17

Back to Hipp, I think. I may contact kendamill myself. It must be hard starting up a local formula company, and not be able to market yourself, but naivety is not an excuse for breaking the codes.

Good question op. For all those giving sarky answers you should read 'the politics of breastfeeding'. There is of course NOTHING wrong with formula feeding but there is plenty wrong with the ethics, approach etc etc of the formula making companies. Something there should be more awareness of.

FFS, my baby won't stave on any of the other perfectly good, government controlled, formula milks.. Probably not, but I'm afraid you do need to open your mind somewhat to the possibility that your baby may not agree with your chosen milk.

My mind would never be open enough to give money to Nestle.

How about Aldi Mamia formula?

Aldi aren't 'big pharma' are they?

"None of them are "evil" not even sma."

You don't know anything about their marketing activities in developing countries then I take it?

www.ibfan.org

I think SMA is Wyeth not Nestle.

The formula companies are morally wrong for refusing to comply with the international code of marketing of infant formula, and the government is wrong for not enforcing it.

SMA is Nestle.

"Ok babies can starve (if no other milk suits) as long as you can be a eco warrior nestle avoider! Get a grip"

Millions of babies in developing countries have died in the past few decades after their poverty stricken mothers were persuaded by marketing (often done through health professionals who were paid by the formula companies) that formula was a good idea.

Formula companies have a deeply shameful history.

Yes you are right. Wyeth must have sold the brand sometime after 2012.

Exactly, my baby is so privileged that we have a choice of milks, and despite the less than ideal situation in that I can't breast feed, we have a choice of excellent, government controlled, alternatives, so my baby will never experience real hunger, let alone starve.

I think it's only right I use that choice to try and encourage good practice, to allow other mothers' babies to thrive as mine.

Even if they're more or less abiding by the rules that have been forced upon them nowadays, SMA have killed untold thousands of babies over the decades, negligently and uncaringly in the interests of profit. What other word than evil fits that behaviour? At least the millions who die in the name of tobacco profits are mostly making that choice themselves. I'd no more give them my money than I would buy my chocolate from Union Carbide.

I didn't know SMA was nestle op. Had vaguely wondered why they didn't sell in this country as they do in Europe as I too have boycotted since early/mid 90's

I used hipp and neither dd had any issue with it.

Not 1st baby, no. Not even 2nd baby. Not even 1st baby that has been formula fed.

We are lucky to have the choice we do. Completely discounting just one of the brands of milks that are virtually identical due to how tightly controlled the composition is, is not putting my principles above my baby.

In fact, saying 'I would have principles, but I'd chuck them all out if it suits my baby better, screw all other babies' is something I wouldn't go for.

Hipp Organic worked for us, we had cow and gate before that. Neither very evil 🙈🙈

My grandaughter is on Hipp Organic. I've found it smells less artificial than others, and it's the only one she would take to! The foil packets are good too, less waste. She hated Aptamil which was the other one DD tried. Have you looked in somewhere like Whole Foods to see if there are other more "ethical" brands available?

I came on to say kendamil but I see it's been covered.

Does anyone know anything about the ethicalness of Aldi milk?

Winifred - not contributing to the profits of baby milk companies was a big incentive for me to continue breastfeeding to a year and beyond with all three of mine.

The Aldi formula appears to be modelled on Aptimil (at least the tin does). I wonder who it's made by?

jacketej The milks are, of course, not evil. Some formula manufacturers have been very evil, and babies have died. This thread is about the manufacturers, not the milk. As all the milks are pretty much the same, due to tight composition controls. I think Hipp is the only one that's slightly different, due to its organic status. Cow and Gate and Aptimil are the same stuff, different boxes.

Aldi have been wrapped on the knuckles by Baby Milk Action, but as far as I can see, it looks less bad on the marketing than Kendamill. Kendalmill does not make good reading on Baby Milk Action. Hipp hasn't been criticised for years, which is good. I'm a sucker for someone pulling their socks up and improving!