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Why doesn't it work?

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Beatrice · 27/06/2004 22:34

Can anyone explain to me how the human race has survived, given that breastfeeding is so problematic? I have had to resort to formula as my DD failed to thrive on my milk, and I have two friends in the same position. We are all perfectly healthy, well nourished women, with comfortable lives and family support, totally committed to the idea of breastfeeding. We all thought we were doing it right and didn't discover there was a problem until our babies failed to gain weight. A quick glance through the posts on mumsnet reveals lots of other women with similar stories. So why doesn't it work? Surely we should be better adapted for it after millions of years of practice. Any theories?

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Lisa78 · 27/06/2004 22:36

wet nurses?
higher infant mortality rates - survival of the fittest?
No other option so mum and baby had to learn?

JulieF · 27/06/2004 23:00

Basically breastfeeding is a skill to be learnt by both mum and baby and as a population we are losing that skill. Every new mum would have a mum/sister/friends who had breastfed and could help her. Now it is common for someone my age not to have even seen anyone b/f until after they had their own baby.

I have often wondered what would have happened if I had lived a couple of hundred years ago. Was expressing done then or would my baby simply have died? Anyone know?

Chinchilla · 27/06/2004 23:12

A couple of 100 years ago, rich people had wet nurses, and poor people used a thin gruel to feed babies.

I suppose, As Lisa78 said, it was also survival of the fittest. People whose milk did not satisfy their child had less children to pass the 'defective genes' on to, and therefore that gene would eventually die out. We are lucky that, in this day and age, we have good products to feed our children with, and get wonderful, healthy children as a result.

tiktok · 27/06/2004 23:14

Interesting Q, Beatrice....we can get some idea of what bf is like physiologically by looking at other societies where it really isn't problematic. These tend to be pre-industrial societies, where women expect to breastfeed and where no one expects mothers and babies to be separated at all, from birth onwards. Girls grow up seeing babies being breastfed often - no one bothers counting how many feeds or looks at the clock to time the length of the feed....babies may feed many scores of times in 24 hours.

In these societies, babies do just fine, on the whole, though when they get to toddler age, they tend to grow less well than they should if food is scarce for the family.

It's not just the developing world, though. In Scandinavia, for instance, mothers tend not to bf dozens of times a day, but because the understanding of how to bf is something girls grow up with, there is less of a technique to learn. Something like 98 per cent of babies begin bf and the vast majority of them continue excl or predominantly bf for at least the first several months (the exact figures not to hand, sorry).

Not having enough milk, or sore or cracked nipples, are not unknown problems in these places - but there is more skill available in ovecoming them.

When the conditions are right, most women can breastfeed, but it seems one of the most important conditions is having a society where bf is overwhelmingly the social norn. That way, you grow up knowing what it looks like, and so positioning is less of a challenge; the skills to support bf are also part of every woman's folk knowledge.

There is a lot more about all of this in the book The Politics of Breastfeeding by Gabrielle Palmer.

Beatrice · 28/06/2004 20:41

Thanks Tiktok (and all), but not sure I understand the bit about Scandinavian girls growing up understanding how bf works. They don't live in extended families any more than we do - where do they get this knowledge and experience from?

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tiktok · 28/06/2004 21:02

I think that even so, they see a lot more bf than we ever do....in public and within the family. Also, the skills to support bf have not been lost.

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