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Is this sexual descrimination?

47 replies

bunnyrabbit · 12/05/2004 09:22

Is it fair that a man should not be able to go into a public feeding room and feed his child because someone else doesn't want him there because he's a man? Is this sexual descimination?

Discuss.....

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SoupDragon · 12/05/2004 11:36

I was actually looking for a device I remember seeing a picture of which was a pair of strap on breasts for men which you filled with milk. I didn't find those but found WAY too much other stuff!

JanZ · 12/05/2004 12:24

I'll need to tell dh

He obviously didn't want to ENOUGH, otherwise his mind would have told him to!

oliveoil · 12/05/2004 12:52

When I was in Ikea once and b/feeding dd in the room provided, a woman came in to change her dd and asked if I minded her being there whilst I was feeding! As if I would say, no please leave you perv . dd was a v figety feeder and would expose me to all, hence why I was in the room in the first place.

Best place ever for facilities is Daisy & Tom here in Mcr - they have a sofa and chairs with mags, changing facilities and 3 separate cubicles with curtains AND those rocking chair feeding chairs. So you could feed in privacy if you wanted and were other half or friend could sit outside in comfort and wait for baby to finish.

aloha · 12/05/2004 14:47

I think men should be sensitive enough to realise that if women are breastfeeding in a private room they may well be there precisely because they are shy about breastfeeding in front of men. Bottle feeding does not present this problem so why not sit down somewhere else - ie a cafe or on a seat provided for shoppers and feed there. Esp in the early days of breastfeeding when you and the baby are getting the hang of it there can be quite a bit of breast exposure, baby bobbing on and off etc and some women - not all - feel very shy about this and I think their sensitivities should be respected. That's not sexual discrimination, that's sensitivity and politeness IMO - and common sense.

lemonice · 12/05/2004 14:52

What are these nice rocking feeder chairs? I was trying to find out on another thread what makes the perfect rest/feed room when out shopping but only WK answered. obviously didn't phrase my query right

oliveoil · 12/05/2004 14:54

They have a foot stool thing, I think it is attached to the main bit of the chair, and it rocks so it is soothing for the baby. Decent arm rests to support then feeding. I think they sell them in D&T, hence why they are in the fitting rooms. Too expensive for me that shop, but I still use their facilities!

oliveoil · 12/05/2004 14:55

I will try and do a link (ha), maybe log back on tomorrow when I have worked out how to do it

Zerub · 12/05/2004 14:58

Personally, I think John Lewis and suchlike should have a large drawing of a couple of breasts on the front of the feeding room door. And perhaps a drawing of some poo on the changing room door

Definitely men should have access to changing facilities. The problem with changing facilities in mens loos is that they tend to be a fold-down table on the wall. dd is liable to sit up, point at those using the urinals, and shout "big willy".
Which is bad enough, but she has just learnt to say the word "small".

Some places have 4 rooms - Ladies loos, mens loos, loo for the disabled, changing room. Thats ok. And then we need a female-only feeding room, a bottlefeeding room, a nursing room where husbands can have a sit down too, a quiet feeding room for the easily-distracted, a feeding room with toybox for older siblings, umm what else - how about a "my baby has gone to sleep in the pram and I need to seize the chance and have a sleep" room as well?

I guess this is all too complicated for most shop designers.

oliveoil · 12/05/2004 14:58

has it worked? \linkwww.daisyandtom.com/Product.do/categoryKey-fb/subcat-fb_fcoll/sku-1152143{}

oliveoil · 12/05/2004 14:58
Sad
oliveoil · 12/05/2004 15:00

please work please

oliveoil · 12/05/2004 15:01
bunnyrabbit · 12/05/2004 15:02

Found a site with several of them on here

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oliveoil · 12/05/2004 15:03

Oi! I did it eventually

bunnyrabbit · 12/05/2004 15:04

blimey.. not cheap are they????

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bunnyrabbit · 12/05/2004 15:07

Zerub, love the last one... can it have a nice soft bed and a wine dispenser??

BR

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lemonice · 12/05/2004 15:08

Gasp I can't afford to be that nice to my customers, I was thinking more along the lines of bean bags and a make your own coffee kettle

lemonice · 12/05/2004 15:08

Gasp I can't afford to be that nice to my customers, I was thinking more along the lines of bean bags and a make your own coffee kettle

lemonice · 12/05/2004 15:10

and double gasp

kbaby · 12/05/2004 15:19

Surely the changing room should be unisex and if feeding is to be done in there then perhaps a curtained area for women to breast feed in. This then allows dads to also use the room. All mums wants dads to take part in child rearing and this means the equal right to use a designated room. I certainly wouldnt feel embarrassed or offended if a dad needed to use the room while I was there.

californiagirl · 12/05/2004 15:58

DH often ends up changing baby on the floor or on the counter next to the sinks. (When people make a fuss over his bravery, changing a baby in a restaurant when I'm there, he looks nonplussed and says "Worse things happened to me in the army".) DH has also used the "Mother's room" in the only store we've ever been in that had one, in order to do a change. No mothers were in it to complain at the time. He's never needed to feed the baby in public, and I think he's embarassed at the idea (people might think she was a bottlefed baby, that would be way worse than an exposed breast, not to mention she's a bit thrashy when bottlefeeding, and sometimes shrieks in the middle for no apparent reason).

champs · 12/05/2004 16:53

yes a changing room should be unisex, but i feel a nursing room should be for women only, there is no need for a man to be in a nursing room, If by chance there is only one room available for feeding, changing then men will have to use it as it's better for a minor embarrasment than poor baby to be changed on floor.
Most of the rooms I have been in that have multi uses have a curtained of or seperate feeding area.

The things that bug me when I'm using the nursing room is when a. someone comes bounding in with no chld just to look!!
b. nursing mother tells husband to come in, knowing full well someone is in there and there is suitable seats outside for him to stay. that happened to me and the man in question just stood there gazing so I called my dh to come in as I felt uncomfortable. The only time I call dh in is if room is empty and if someone comes in he leaves.

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