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Infant feeding

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breastfeeding on demand, v demanding baby!

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2labs · 11/09/2006 14:41

Not sure when or how we ended up like this but I am bfing my ds (5 wks old) what seems like all the time. He has been astonishingly grumpy/colicky since the age of about 2.5 wks old and because every other mum who saw him crying said 'he's hungry' - rooting etc, I've been feeding him every time I've seen him do the classic rooting stuff and crying. He's now on the breast for sometimes an hour at a time, sometimes more, and often starts again 15-20 minutes after finishing that. When he goes back on shortly after an hour-long feed he does do the proper sucking/swallowing for 5 mins or so, then what looks like comfort suckling, then he sort of wakes up a bit and does a bit more proper sucking... This is all day now, except when he is having a nap, whereas before he used to do it just in the evenings (cluster feeding?). He does do really well at night with the help of an EBM bottle before bedtime, and is sleeping from 9.30-2.30, feeds, then 3.30-6ish. He's also putting on weight.

His latch has never been that great so I'm wondering whether he's finding it increasingly hard to get all the milk he wants (a bf counsellor told me that babies have to work harder after the early days to get at it?). We started off feeding about every 2 hours or so but it's degenerated to this gradually. Any advice?

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terramum · 11/09/2006 20:39

Was the second stage quite fast then? Maybe worth seeing a cranial osteopath to see if there is anything bothering him re misalignment etc. I have heard that babies suckle a lot to relieve pain.

2labs · 11/09/2006 20:42

Yes he's had 2 sessions of cranial osteopathy... but no change so far. Have another one in 2 weeks.

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tiktok · 11/09/2006 20:54

2labs, I don't have a lot of time at the moment - will try to help a bit though.

Your baby sounds on the normal spectrum to me. He's napping in the day , sleeping well at night, developing well and gaining weight appropropriately. You are responding to his clear need to be held close to the breast. There is nothing 'wrong' with any of this, and he is only 5 weeks....it is not 'colic' if a baby is happy as long as he is held/put to the breast. You may feel you are bf 'all the time' but with naps and sleep, you really aren't There is plenty of time for him to grow out of this pattern, believe me, and a baby who is held when he needs to be held builds confidence and love.

The usual things help - slings, relaxed attitude, help with other jobs in the house and other children, patience....

suzi2 · 11/09/2006 21:01

2labs, my DS was the same at this age (until about 10-12 wks I think). He was extremely grumpy and had awful colicky pains and screamed for hours every evening. In retrospect, I think that some of the comfort feeding was making him colicky. However, I'm not sure that given then time again I'd do anything different if that makes sense. You certainly can't spoil a baby at this age... (or at anything less than 12 months IMO!).

Anyway, just wanted to say that it gets better. My DS was nicknamed 'Sunny' in the womb, but he was anything but! everyone showed a lot of concern for his crying and grumpiness and unhappiness. We just thought he was a miserable so and so like his dad . Anyhow, at about 3 months he cheered up a bit. Went through a bad patch at 4-5 months but then became a happy wee thing. And now at 13 months he ias an absolute delight and we rarely can't force a smile or laugh from him regardless of mood. he is certianly not a grumpy baby anymore.

suzi2 · 11/09/2006 21:02

And I would agree with the lounging on the sofa thing. It took me a long time to see it's advantages... just wish I could go back and enjoy that sitting around in squalor rather than stressing about it!

2labs · 11/09/2006 21:23

thank you tiktok... it's a relief to hear from an expert that it sounds normal.

suzi2 - I am soooooo glad to hear you say that about your ds. Can't wait to see ours look happy!

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Tatties · 11/09/2006 21:31

2labs - don't know if you have discovered kellymom yet - if not it is a great site to have a browse around and feel reassured

yellowrose · 11/09/2006 22:22

2labs - babies your lo age love to be held, not just for feeding but also for your warmth and comfort when they are upset about something. Soon you will get the hang of his body language !

They may comfort suck, but it is actually quite difficult to tell unless you have had alot of experience with bf - DS was my first child so for the first few months my gut reaction was always to let him feed/suck as much as he wanted to as I felt it was the best way to deal with growth spurts and weight gain Once he was much older he was pacing out his feeds much more predictabily and if he was on the boob all the time without active feeding, I would gently remove my nipple once he was asleep ; ) It is quite amasing but they do form their own feeding/sleeping pattern after a few weeks.

ps - I don't think dummies are a good idea for a 5 week old being exclusively bf. It may interfere with your supply and his feeding. At 5 weeks you are both still learning what to do, so let it happen naturally !

I highly recommend La Leche League and www.kellymom.com for more info. on infant feeding patterns.

Best of bf luck !

kbaby · 12/09/2006 11:04

my ds 6 weeks sounds the same, i feed him and hell come off then a few mins later hell cry so i put him back on but he just comfort sucks. everyone said he is still hungry as hell suckle your arm, clothes even the settee but when i put him on he doesnt feed. i worked out that he just wants to suckle and so i give him the dummy, hell suck on it fall asleep and spit it out. if he was hungry there is no way he would settle on the dummy.
i bf and used a dummy from 3 weeks old

yellowrose · 12/09/2006 13:35

That's why it is called a "dummy" ! It is a "dummy" for the real mummy

It's a choice at the end of the day for a mummy to use one or not. I was just pointing out to 2labs that there are potential problems to using a dummy with a 5 week old as it is not always possible to tell whether the baby is hungry or not. There are other problems with dummies (short and long term) perhaps not approriate to list on this thread.

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