Travelling and cooled boiled water for bottles

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We are spending four weeks in Northern Europe over the summer with a couple of long days of driving. I intend on taking a flask of boiled water to sterilise the powder and making up the rest of the bottles with cooled boiled water. Is it ok to keep the boiled water at room temp I.e not in a cool bag when we are driving? We won't have any access to ice packs at the places we are staying so even if I put the bottles in a cool bag, they won't be chilled. I don't think the pre made bottles are feasible for the whole time as we are extremely tight on space already but we could probably take a couple to make it a bit easier. Thanks!

Are you worried about the water going bad?

If you have some 70 degree + water to mix the powder with, I would just use bottled water suitable for babies (check the packaging) to cool it to the right temperature.

Yes I am. I just wondered if the water would be ok if it was boiled and then kept at room temp for 6+ hours? Probably not a very straightforward way of explaining my question! Lol

I thought the water had to be 70 degrees when it hit the formula to kill bacteria?
I might be wrong.

No hobby you are correct. It needs to be boiling water no less than 70 degrees.

Could you get some ready made formula just for your travelling days?

OP is planning to take hot water in a flask, plus previously boiled cold water.

its not the water that is the issue, it is the powder that contains the bacteria which is why the water should be hot when mixing with the powder so the bacteria is killed.

I think she realises that, hence saying she will use hot water to sterilise the powder!

However, I don't think water, whether previously boiled and cooled, bottled, or straight from the tap, is going to spoil at room temperature.

Boiling water needs to be used to mix the powder...

A travel mug can be used, powered from the cigarette lighter, to boil bottled water. The mug will be sterilised each time it is used for water, and can be covered with a lid between times.

Not boiling water LST, water 70 degrees+. Boiling water can destroy some of the vitamins in the powder.

It's fine. Did it all the time.

Keep formula is sealed carton / Tupperware etc - we just used carton it came in. The guidance is designed for people who have no idea of basic standards. If you have a crawling baby they are exposed to far more that way

OP I understand your question I think you are going to make up your bottles by using mixing ALL your powder with half the amount of HOT water (from flask) and then add half the amount of previously boiled COOL water to bring it to the right temp - correct? You are asking whether the previously boiled cool water will be ok out of the fridge for a day. Of course it will. If you poured water into a sports bottle in the morning (for yourself) and didn't drink it till the evening it would be just the same water if a little warm. No worries. Water does not go off - not in a few hour anyway.

I said that further up the thread but no one paid attention. It is safer to used boiling water than water that isn't hot enough. Can't you just batch make bottles op and keep them. In a cool bag? or just get ready made formula? It seems like an awful faff.

Bear the pathogens potentially introduced in the manufacturing process aren't what you find in your average, reasonably hygienic home. Salmonella and e. Sakazakii are particularly nasty. It's by far safer to use boiling water and risk a few of the vitamins occasionally than just not bother.

The OP is planning on using a flask for hot water. I bought a good (Thermos-branded) flask and a digital thermometer and it kept water above 70degrees for over 12 hrs.

Fledermaus - do you have any source for that? (that boiling water destroys the vitamins in the formula) I thought that was a myth.

How old is the baby? Certainly over 6 months I wouldn't worry about keeping boiled water in the fridge for use later, I'd just keep it at room temp

Blimey I never knew flasks could keep water that hot for so long! Are they expensive?

I'm sure the boiled water would be fine- just not as cold as you would normally use so not as useful in cooling it down IYSWIM.

I'm fairly certain that any vitamins destroyed at 100 degrees will also be destroyed at 85! It is more dangerous for water to be too cool than too hot-it's mainly a scald risk for you I think.

Cooled boiled water will be fine without being chilled. Water doesn't go off.

As you are taking a flask of boiling water also the bottles will be fine.

Ready to feed would be a lot easier though.

I would just use the pre-made stuff. That's what we've always done. It's more expensive but far less hassle when travelling.

LST it cost about £25 from Amazon as I remember it (the digital thermometer was about £2.99. A massively worthwhile investment as it replaced the TommeeTippee branded flask which only managed to keep water hot for about 4 hours and we had to keep a travel kettle upstairs and refill it in the night! (My son had special medical formula for dairy intolerance and so ready-to-feed wasn't an option for us).