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Some general comment on breastfeeding/formula milk in "a" developing country, nestle etc etc etc...

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 02/09/2006 21:17

having been in Zimbabwe for the last 2 weeks - and of course having MN often in my mind I took the opportunity to ask some of DH's (large) family about breastfeeding/weaning practices, and also had a long hard look at the formula milk on offer in the supermarkets. Thankfully my 'subject' matter was quite varied - visiting some 'wealthy' (well "ish") relatives in the towns as well as some living in pretty poor conditions - houses where 2 meals a day was good going.....

We travelled quite a long distance (about 1,500miles) through the country and visited lots of 'local' shops (the place where most rural people - the majority of the population - go to buy their shopping). There was no sign of any formula of any brand in any of those shops - and a Cousin out in Zvimba said she'd never seen it when her DC were younger.

Of all the tins of baby food I saw (and belive me I had a good nose - DH thought I'd lost the plot LOL) none of them had pictures of babies on at all (the chubby white babies shown on the tins when I was last out there were no longer there), the instructions on use were clearly marked in all 3 main languages. Interestingly if any of the tins were Nestle - I couldn't see it on the tins - without having a really close look (ie reading the tiny address/contact details on the tins). The tins were very small (about 1/3 of the size of standard tins here in the UK) and extremely expensive about Z$8-10 million (about £8-10).

Average length of breastfeeding is apparently about 6-12 months in the urban areas (info taken from one of DH's close cousins who's a Dr) - as mothers return to work leaving their children with the maids (and if I had a £ for every relative who was shocked that most people in the UK don't have maids I'd be a very rich woman LOL).

Weaning usually around 4-6 months - saw several little cousins happily making a mess (and eating) with their Sadza and Chicken.

Admittedly part of the 'early' weaning and stopping of breastfeeding is due to the very high incidence of HIV/AIDS out there - they reckong that 1 in 4 of the population is infection - but there's certainly no huge outcry if you give you baby a chicken drumstick to knaw on at 4 months old (even I didn't do that LOL).

Nestle - well - like I said didn't see much evidence of Nestle baby milk saw a few follow on milks - but again so expensive it wouldn't even occur to the majority of Zimbabweans to buy it because of the cost - they're still pretty much of the attitude that their ancestors were weaned onto cow/goat milk after breastfeeding so why not their own children. However there's LOTS of other Nestle products....

Cereals - you have a choice of Cardboard Branflakes or Cornflakes.........or slightly more appetising Nestle products - many of the chocolate bars are also Nestle.....but again not huge sales because a chocolate bar is now a luxury.

They do however have some very clever sponsorship to get their name seen and recognised......the only Game Show on the (one) TV channel is partly sponsored by them.....and it's a game show that gives away large sums of money on it's daily shows along with hampers.........often full of £50-100 worth of Nestle products (which in Zimbabwe is a lot of money)

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fattiemumma · 02/09/2006 21:24

very interesting post QOQ.

hope you didn't spend your whole holiday checking the baby aisle of the locl shops though

VeniVidiVickiQV · 02/09/2006 21:24

Very interesting QOQ. Hope you had a good time

Whats your particular interest in Nestle though?

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 02/09/2006 21:37

VVV - it's just there's often debates about Nestle/FF on here and I thought I'd use (part - not all ) of my holiday finding out what's actually happening 'on the ground' out there.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 02/09/2006 21:50

Oh ok! Thought you had some kind of issues with Nestle, or, had become an agent for them

How was it other than informative....?

laundrylover · 02/09/2006 21:51

What informative use of your hols HRH!!
We were in Zim in about 2000 just when everything was going downhill fast - what is the situation like there now generally? Whereabouts did you travel too?

NotAnOtter · 02/09/2006 21:53

wow how interesting.

How was Zimbabwe?

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 02/09/2006 21:54

generally - situation pretty dire - majority of Zimbabweans only have 2 meals a day (on a good day). And meat (which used to be a 'staple' part of the diet) is eaten in very small quantities now. Pot holes in the roads, corrupt police (well state too LOL), trying to kill the strong education system, massive inflation, high cost of living..................but the people are still the same wonderful, warm and welcoming people.

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laundrylover · 02/09/2006 22:05

It saddens me to hear this as it is yet another country that has become yesterday's news over here. We travelled through - Harare - Bulawayo - Vic falls and then planned to go back 6 weeks later but by that time it had become a no go and Bulawayo was over run with 'vets'.
We are hoping to take our girls to Africa in a few years for an extended stay. We will likely be based in Tanzania but would like to think that Zimbabwe will once again be a great country for us to explore.

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 02/09/2006 22:10

laundry - you should definitley visit - well worth it - in the Fall and Hwange there were no issues at all. All the "tourist" places are absolutely fine to travel (if slightly bumpy roads LOL).

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laundrylover · 02/09/2006 22:15

Think it will be a few years yet as my sis is planning on setting up an outdoor business combined with an orphanage in Tanzania. At the mo she is in Scotland for two years getting married and earning cash tho!
We would love to go back and 'finish' our Zim trip!

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