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Breastfeeding gone so wrong -- is it too late to fix it?

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KateTheShrew · 16/03/2014 12:02

Apologies in advance: this is going to be looong...

My two month old baby son latched well straight after birth, and I always planned to exclusively breastfeed for a year if I could. Things seemed to be going well in the beginning -- milk came in on day three and my midwife observed him feeding a couple of times and said everything looked perfect (Ha! little did we know).

Anyway, at about 10 days old he had a major screaming episode -- 10 hours solid, trying to feed but too distressed. We called the out of hours GP who referred us to the local children's hospital to be on the safe side. They said medically he seemed fine (hydrated, alert etc), but was hungry and distressed. He was tube fed over night, and we were sent home the next day after a day of breastfeeding (they recorded the times he fed but never observed the feeds).

Anyway, having only lost 5% of his birthweight in the first five days, he stopped gaining consistently. He would gain a bit, lose a bit and repeat. The midwife became concerned, and on the advice of a paediatrician at the hospital we started him on 30ml top ups of EBM or formula (depending on what I had) every three hours. He gained a little.

I started researching myself, and became concerned that the problem was that he wasn't feeding effectively (he often fell asleep, I could rarely hear swallowing, and he seemed mostly to be just 'nibbling'). I contacted the infant feeding advisor at the hospital where he was born and she observed him feed and said he was basically transferring no milk at all! We went for another medical review and were referred to a pediatric consultant.I was also told only to put him to the breast briefly and give full feeds by bottle to get his weight up and monitor whether he could actually gain weight if taking in a reasonable amount of milk. Thus began my close relationship with the breast pump.

Fast forward five weeks and I feel like we are treading water... he is gaining weight and the consultant concluded that he was medically perfect, it was a problem with intake, but he has a strong suck, good latch and no tongue-tie -- there is no reason why he shouldn't breastfeed effectively, he just doesn't.

CUrrently I am only able to express four or five times a day (since my husband has gone back to work) so he gets about three bottles of EBM a day and four of formula. I try to put him to the breast before every daytime feed the only time we get anywhere is first thing in the morning when he appears to do some good sucking and swallowing, probably because my breasts are pretty full. I'm so frustrated and depressed the feeding advisor has no answers for us and we are basically on our own now. I've tried lots of skin to skin, going to bed with him for two days etc, but it doesn't seems to have worked. I want to give him as much breastmilk as possible, so am willing to carry on expressing if I have to but am worried my supply is dwindling and would much, much rather breastfeed directly.

Has anybody come across or dealt with a problem like this before? Any advice or just words of support? Is Is it possible to express 'part-time' and maintain some supply? I want to enjoy my baby but feel like I spend all day worrying about this and trying to fix it. Can't really leave the house for any period of time because of the expressing. I hate giving formula (nothing wrong with it, and no offence meant to mums who choose to formula feed, it's just not what I wanted to be doing) but I can't keep up with expressing to give EBM exclusively.

I should add that he loves going on the breast – no refusal! – and that sometimes it’s the only thing that soothes him.

Sorry for marathon post, and for any typos, he is crying so I am rushing this!

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KateTheShrew · 19/03/2014 18:34

Ooh, qumquat that's so interesting to hear! I've felt quite alone with this and like I'm making up my own rules, but I guess there are probably more people out there mixing pumping and formula (for whatever reason) than you'd think. Glad to hear you're making it work for you. I never had much pain (poor you!) but totally relate to the never-ending 24 hour feeds. Obviously because he was never transferring enough milk. Would you keep in touch and let me know how you're getting on? It might be nice to swap tips on pumping routines etc, especially since our babies are a similar age (DS is 9 weeks today Smile)

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qumquat · 20/03/2014 11:26

I replied last night, not sure where it went! I'm struggling with RSI in my wrists now from holding and massaging my enormoboobs while pumping! Arg! The fates clearly don't want my dd to get breast milk! In a hurry now but will check in again later? What is your routine so far for pumping? I'm struggling to get out to do anything as scared about breasts getting over full.

Smerlin · 20/03/2014 17:19

If they get overfull qumquat then you will just leak heavily into
your breast pads so make sure you have good ones. Obviously this feels like a waste of milk and I believe you may be able to get sterile breast shields to conserve it but not sure? Or you can hand express into a sink to relieve the pressure.

Your body will adapt to a routine of pumping so your breasts reach capacity at the right time if you see what I mean, once you have had a fixed routine for a while- just as they would for direct breastfeeding so you will know you have 4 hours for example before needing to pump again.

Smerlin · 20/03/2014 17:28

Also I found these helpful

There are many more. I would have kept exclusively pumping if it wasn't for the discouragement from my GP who blamed pumping for my baby's poor weight gain ( which continued after she was switched onto formula but by then it was too late).

There is so little understanding of and support for exclusive pumping but you really are doing the best for your baby!

KateTheShrew · 20/03/2014 18:12

qumquat I have messaged you re routines etc Smile

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KateTheShrew · 22/05/2014 11:52

Thought I would give a quick update on my rather doom and gloom post from March...

I'm pleased to say we are now almost exclusively breastfeeding! (one bottle per day given by DH before bed), and it's been a month and a half since I expressed! And... DS has been putting on weight steadily Grin

I'm afraid I cant say exactly what caused this miraculous turn around, but it seems to have been a combination of DS just getting the hang of it (bigger and stronger), me relaxing and deciding that come what may I could not bear to express any more and he would just bloody well have to breastfeed directly or go on formula and that either would be fine, and a wonderfully supportive HV who came out and weighed him regularly which gave me the confidence to go cold turkey on the expressing and wean off the bottles.

It's not all sunshine and roses: he's having a massively fussy period at the moment, very distractable on the breast and refusing to sleep at night, but I think that just goes with being 4 months old and it's still a million times better than before.

I hope this might give anyone struggling hope that it can get better even if, like me, you've had a baby on bottles for nearly three months. But the most important take-away I have from this experience is that whatever had happened, however I'd ended up feeding, DS would have been fine and it wasn't worth losing my sanity over.

And they all lived happily ever after...? We shall see Wink

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BertieBotts · 22/05/2014 12:32

That's fantastic :) thanks for the update.

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