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Help. DS day2 milk coming in

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JamInMyWellies · 30/12/2013 08:13

Can anyone help this is DS3 but he is having real trouble latching on.

He has a very strong suck and my nipples are very tender to begin with but they are also inverted. My milk appears to be coming in and this has made my nipple area very hard and even more flat.

I have tried to hand express but its not working also tried in the shower. I have just sent DH to sainsbos to pick up a pump to see if I can pump them a bit to get the nipple out.

Any tips would be massively appreciated. I am sure this happened with my other DS too but its been 5yrs since my last bout of BF.

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mumoftwoboysS · 30/12/2013 10:36

Sorry can't really help but have EXACTLY the same problem! Milk came in overnight and taking so long for ds to latch. Also finding boobs still sore and engorged even after a feed. I have read this website which us helpful: www.breastfeedingbasics.com/articles/engorgement

They recommend pump

mumoftwoboysS · 30/12/2013 10:37

Sorry bloody phone. Recommend pumping to ease it so I'm going to try that. Good luck and I'll be checking back to see if you get any useful advice!

Here's the link again as can't click on the other one-

www.breastfeedingbasics.com/articles/engorgement

JamInMyWellies · 30/12/2013 11:01

Have seen the midwife who was super helpful.

She said try not to pump as that will just confuse the supply.

She had me stroke my breast all round in a downward motion then gently squeeze behind the areola to encourage the nipple out. She said that my nipples really are quite inverted and that although it looks brutal to make a C shape behind my entire nipple so that it is cone like hold DS at the nape of the neck and shoulder area wait for him to open hi mouth wide and literally shove him on getting as much of the nipple as possible in. It was much less painful. She said that once my mil comes in properly and we have both got the hang of it it will be much more natural and he will find it easier.

Hope that helps you all.

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mumoftwoboysS · 30/12/2013 23:49

Thanks for the tip- I have flat rather than inverted nips so know what you mean. Another useful thing I've found is using breast shells - Avent do them and I've found them really good for my sore nipples - not only does it mean your nipples don't have to touch anything (I find even breast pads make them hurt) but the hole at the front helps keep the nipple drawn out so I'm ready to feed.

My mw also said try not to pump as it'll increase engorgement (funny the article said the opposite) and also recommended putting boobs in a hot bath and letting the milk drain down. Ds seems to be cluster feeding tonight so I have a feeling his marathon feeding will help too! Oh well, sleep is underrated right?...

JamInMyWellies · 31/12/2013 03:21

Fuck fuck fuck. Just taken an hr to get him to latch and it's not right as it is really sore but I need him to feed.

Back to square 1 again.

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ChristmasJumperWearer · 31/12/2013 03:31

I have one inverted nipple, one not, and have bf two DCs.

Feeding from the inverted nipple was very painful at first and then the discomfort disappeared over time.

I found Medela nipple shields (they come in different sizes, Boots used to sell them) really helpful getting me through those first days and weeks.

But I will admit that with DC2 I gave up trying to feed from the inverted nipple as the discomfort was too much. I fed from the other side for 15 months.

Is one side better than the other?

Hopefully someone will be along with a more positive inverted nipple experience. Good luck.

HappyAsASandboy · 31/12/2013 04:30

I had one flat nipple and one 'normal' one and found it very difficult to feed from the flat one.

Things that helped were:

Gently but firmly pushing back around the flat nipple when engorged, to sort of push the milk pressure back and create some space to make a cone to push into babies mouth.

Breast shells (not shields) that are worn between feeds. I think these had the same effect as above, as the edges of the cut out hole pushed back around my nipple. Added bonus was that my nipples also didn't have to touch anything between feeds.

Lansinoh nipple cream. Slather it on at every opportunity and use breast shells to stop it ring wiped off onto bra/pad.

Use a pump to draw out the nipple. Be careful not to pump too hard though, as you don't want to cause even more trauma to your nipples

Play with it Blush. White lots of Lansinoh, tiny late the nipple lots so that it is as erect as possible as often as possible. Sort of gets it used to being 'out there' Confused

When it got very sore to feed from the flat side, I pumped and fed from the other side. At or point I fed both my twins from the none flat side, pumping from the flat side at every feed for a whole week! Gave my flat nipple a chance to recover, but took my other boob to stupendous proportions (was lopsided for most of the first year as a result). The effect would probably be much less pronounced if you don't feed two babies from one side for so long.

It is hard work and painful at times in the early weeks. It is sometimes difficult to reconcile ourselves with this reality in the face of lovely soft-focus mum-and-babe breastfeeding images, but it really can be quite a difficult skill to master.

Remember that every feed is great for your body, your babies development, and gets you one feed closer to the ease that is established breastfeeding :)

^^

JamInMyWellies · 31/12/2013 08:49

Thankyou. Middle of the night stress to get him latched.

I have been through this twice before with DS 1&2. But they would latch and stay latched he DS3 seems to latch do 2 sucks fall off start from scratch again. Which on very bruised nipples is excruciating. This morning I have pumped for a few mins to soften the nipple area so he didn't come on and off for as long. He then fed for 40 mins. So boob feels so much better.

Thanks for all the advice.

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