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Establishing breast feeding after birth - is this true?

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Babysealion · 25/10/2013 08:00

I'm expecting my first baby in January, it's DP's first baby too so we're both new to this and neither of us have had a great deal with newborns before.
Basically DP claims to have heard from 'several people at work' that after the baby's born, as soon as he's all cleaned up they put him straight onto my chest to try to get him to latch on. Apparently the midwives give it 5 minutes, and if baby doesn't latch on we then have to give him a formula bottle? And then, according to DP, 'it's near-impossible to get the baby to breast feed after that.' Sorry but this doesn't seem true to me as I was under the impression that the NHS would do everything possible to help you establish breastfeeding?! My apologies if it is true though! :)

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BerstieSpotts · 25/10/2013 09:59

Why don't you see if your local NCT offer any breastfeeding classes? Usually they have a session for dads as well as mums so you can both get some good info which you'll know will be accurate!

If not, buy the book "The Food of Love" and make him read it! Fantastic book.

Nectarines · 25/10/2013 10:04

I'm diabetic and had emcs. As a result of my diabetes, my daughter had low blood sugar after birth and had to be given a formula feed. Since then she has been exclusively breast fed, the formula having made no impact whatsoever on establishing bf.

NAR4 · 25/10/2013 21:51

My 2nd DC was taken to special care after a traumatic birth and I didn't get to even touch him for about 24 hrs. I told the midwives not to give him formula because we have milk allergies in the family and I wanted to breastfeed. He was given some glucose with a syringe to stop him becoming too drowsy to feed. It was harder getting him to feed (to start with) because he didn't seem to know what to do, but I did successfully breastfeed him, like my other dcs. This was 15 yrs ago and my older babies were cleaned, dressed and wrapped in a blanket after birth, before I got to even hold them.

If you want to breastfeed I recommend getting plenty of information and ask for help if you want it. Make sure your dh knows its his job to support your decision to breastfeed, even when you are in hospital after giving birth and might not feel able to ask for help if you need it. That is when he should step in and ask for you if need be.

Needanewsofa · 25/10/2013 22:01

Don't worry, I'm sure your hospital or birthing centre has breast feeding advisors who visit you and help.

They even came to help me as they knew that our ds was taken immediately to NICU (seriously ill, but known about through the whole pregnancy) to help me express. He was operated on the next day, we finally got to hold him 6 days after birth. He was then fed by ng with my breastmilk, and then he latched on at 11 days old. We were discharged 2 days later and I fed him exclusively to 10 months (feeding issues meant he didn't wean) and continued to 12 months.

You will be given plenty of help, support and advice. But if it doesn't work out, don't worry. Your baby will thrive and you and your dh will have a wonderful family :-). Enjoy x x x

FastWindow · 25/10/2013 22:05

I thought I would tell you my story see if it helps.

My dd (I have a 3.4 do as well) was born last month.
She was 40+5 so idk if it makes any difference, but she latched on the second they placed her on to my breast.

However. I wasnt concentrating and let her suck a blister in one nipple, effectively putting it out of action for two days. Then the other one was basically empty. So after 17 hours, she'd had some colostrum, but wasn't getting any more. At three am, after trying to express, but getting so little out, we tried cup feeding. It was such a faff that I just said oh fgs. gave her a bottle and she had a drink and slept contentedly.

Next day back on the book no problem.

Now, I bf and ff. I have a lovely midwife whose very salient point was this : babies are smart. They will work out the different methods required for bf and ff. And it works great - dh can help, I can have a glass of vino and know that baby will be fed.

In fact she's so smart that the only person she tries to refuse the bottle from is me. She's 4 weeks...

FastWindow · 25/10/2013 22:07

Sorry for typos!
3.4 ds
Back on the BOOB. She's tiny and can't read yet Grin

itsaruddygame · 26/10/2013 21:49

My DS didn't latch (he was early and had a teeny mouth) he was given a bottle of donor milk which he wolfed down and didn't really start to latch until he was a few days old. I had to pump to stimulate supply buy we still got BF established and I am still feeding him 7 months on.... in fact he is a full on boob monster.

mrsmartin1984 · 26/10/2013 22:35

There was some research in Sweden that if you put a baby on your bare stomach after they are they would crawl up your chest, find your nipple and latch on. Although it doesn't work if you have had some of the harder pain relief after labour. It can make babies a bit dopey.

Normally you have to guide a baby, and sometimes it doesn't happen straight away. A newborn can't do much in 5 minutes

Swanhilda · 26/10/2013 23:44

There's a Unicef video which is for an Indian audience, but illustrates point beautifully. Google Breast Crawl. It is amazing. I wish I'd known about it before my children were born... Shows baby latching itself on if given the chance! Like some amazing documentary about the wonders of the natural world..

PeriodFeatures · 26/10/2013 23:51

My DD latched on almost straight away.

I had a ventose delivery and grade 3 episiotomy. As soon as DD was 'out' I leaned forward and snatched her from the obstetrician that delivered her! They took her from me after a minute to clear her lungs, then they had to stitch me.

DH had skin to skin while they were doing my stitches. I could have held her during this but didn't know how much discomfort I would feel and didn't want to be distracted by any discomfort.

I then had skin to skin. She was like a little bird and i guided her to my nipple and she latched on straight away.

DH read somewhere that partners and husbands (Male) having skin to skin before baby feeds from Mother can help. A healthy calm baby WILL root for a nipple, when they don't find one immediately, the rooting reflex is established, they then root on their mother and latching on is more immediate.

I would suggest you start expressing colostrum by hand if your body begins producing it towards the end of your pregnancy. Try and be relaxed and get into the mindset that your body is designed to feed your baby and it knows what to do.

A difficult birth or a poorly baby can of course make breastfeeding more difficult as it is new for both baby and mum. No-one functions brilliantly if they are unwell, knackard or anxious. (try riding a new bicycle on a narrow path with a serious banging hangover!)

One person's difficult birth is another person's positive experience. So many factors are involved. Being or at least feeling in control is really important in how you will perceive your birth experience.

My advice would be to absorb as much positive information about giving birth,, breast feeding and pregnancy as you possibly can! Your body is about to go through the most awesome changes and do unbelievable things to support a tiny little new life!

You can do it!! Blokes need support too. They can't talk to each other easily, suddenly their wife or partner has a baby stuck to their boob for hours and hours. They will probably have some negative messages about breastfeeding they have absorbed from our stupid culture and with the best will in the world will find it hard at times.

Take your DP to a BF class. There were quite a few couples that went to the one i attended.

To be honest, nothing could have prepared me for breastfeeding other than my own approach to pregnancy and birth. I am from a family of breastfeeding women and in my circle of friends is is what people do so that has helped.

I have felt like giving up and found it difficult at times. Thank god for formula if we need it!

Hopefully you won't unless you choose to use it. I hope you can dispel some of the myths that your DP has about breastfeeding.

GozerTheGozerian · 26/10/2013 23:55

I have to say, in my experience the NHS doesn't do everyth

GozerTheGozerian · 27/10/2013 00:00

I have to say, in my experience the NHS doesn't do everything possible to help establish breastfeeding. Whilst it may champion it, a lack of resources, low midwife and lactation expert availability may mean that you have to stand your ground and demand support over and over again. I certainly didn't get much support at all when I was struggling and if I'd known then what I know now, I would have been far more demanding.

Educate yourself and your DP before your baby arrives because I don't think you can assume you will get everything you need postnatally without asking for it, or sometimes seeking it out for yourself.

MyNameIsAnAnagram · 29/10/2013 09:17

Ds1 didnt latch on at all for 24 hours and it was very shaky for the next 24. No one ever suggested formula to me as I had made it clear I wanted to bf.
good luck Grin

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