Advice re 9w ebf baby swallowing air and difficult to wind

[grainmum]

my 9w DS seems to swallow quite a bit of air at the breast. After each side I spend 10 minutes with him over one shoulder and patting/rubbing his back. if he doesn't burp I leave it after 10 mins. He struggles to fall asleep lying on his back so this morning I put him down on his front but that really worrying.

so what can I do to help
a) to swallow less air
B) to make him burp better
c) encourage him to sett

thanks

c) encourage him to settle on his back

Bumping for you as I'm keen to see if there is advice. My DD (19 days) is similar and today has been clearly in pain with wind and with grunt and cry out on her back. No idea how I'm going I get any sleep tonight

No idea but bumping in hope that someone does as it might help me!

Have you tried the Tiger in the tree hold? Look it up on YouTube. It puts gentle pressure on their tummy while being relaxing big you sway a little.

Infacol can help some babies disperse the bigger gas bubbles.

Have you experimented with different feeding holds or using your babe to shape your boob in baby's mouth? Check out the kellymom website for all sorts of BF advice..

Reading this whilst trying to wind my very windy ebf 18 day old!

From what I've read, a forceful let down or oversupply can be the cause of excessive wind (which I think is our problem) or a problem with the latch causing suction to be lost during feeding and air to be taken in.

I know a bit about the possible causes ...but no solutions!

Not much help, but hoping someone else will be!

he finds tiger in the tree hold soothing and may settle in that position but not any other, but then is unsettled again when I turn him over and put him down to sleep.

I'm trying infacol but keep forgetting! Also a bit of tummy massage when I change his nappy.

Agree with suggestion for tiger hold position. Also:
Propping moses basket up at one end.
Keeping as upright as possible during the day (sling) to stop build up.
Hand express a little before latching on.
Check baby has good latch and be persistent about breaking if not.

A good kick about in the bath is normally good at relieving wind.
Mum drinking camomile tea. Not sure that transfer is possible, but it was recommended and my little one is sleeping better for it.

I had a dreadful time with this in the early days as I have a very forceful let down. I found that putting her down on her tummy was the only thing that worked but like you I was very nervous about it so I only do it during the day when I can watch her. I found that she would fart/burp loads whilst actually on her tummy and therefore the build up of wind throughout the day wasn't happening and so ahe doesn't suffer at night and settles fine on her back for bed.

Thank you for all the suggestions, hopefully using these will improve things. Managed to avoid putting him down on tummy last night, but did have him on his tummy across my lap rubbing his back before putting him in basket on back.

Have you tried letting him sleep on his side? There is a way you roll the blanket around them to stop them rolling onto their stomachs. My lo puts his feet in the air and uses the weight roll on his side anyway, twice onto his stomach

It is totally normal for a baby not to want to settle away from you and is no indication there is something wrong. Have you tried holding him for 20 minutes until he is fast asleep then putting him down? Swaddling and white noise might help too. Have you tried feeding lying down so that you can get some rest and letting him sleep with you?

Forceful letdown and oversupply have been mentioned, these can be confused with tongue tie. Whichever one it is, you need RL help. Is there a bfing support group near to you? The La Leche League are usually good.

Have a look at some of these feeding videos. Does your feeding look like the good drinking one?

You might also like this article on gassy babies.

Forgot to say, when I bathed my dd in the tummy tub she got loads of wind out, baby massage seemed to help too.

My DS (3.5 weeks) seems to suffer with this, but a couple of things I've found help are:

Stopping regularly to wind, not waiting for him to finish on one side (it seems a bit harsh to stop him after 5 mins, but I think I have a fast letdown so winding after those first initial big gulps seems to bring it up quite quickly).

When struggling to get any wind up I circle between sitting him on my lap, putting him over my shoulder (quite high up, so his arms and shoulders are over my shoulder) and lying him across my legs in his tummy. Moving through the positions every few mins seems to help get it up.

After he finishes feeding and has winded I try and sit with him upright for 10 mins before lying him down again. Or, during the day having him in the sling.

At the moment, it's taking me about 1.5 hrs per feed, with all the stopping and winding, which is a bit soul destroying at 3am, but it's better than it only taking 40 mins then him waking up 30 mins later and crying for an hour because the wind is stuck!

I've been doing this for the past few days and it seems to be helping him!

zippy are you getting any RL support too? Its unusual for a bf baby to require that amount of weaning

Or winding even. Doh.

I keep trying to get to a breast feeding group but haven't been able to make it there in time so far!

I've watched the videos and it looks like he's got a good latch and is feeding properly (and he's putting on weight well), but I know my milk comes out fast as his literally gets showered in it at every feed! I've tried expressing a bit out first but it doesn't seem to make a difference!

Any other suggestions greatly appreciated!

If you can't get to the group, have you tried phoning your local la Leche league leader? She might be able to help

Just marking my place as having exactly this problem with tongue tied 5wk old DS2 x

Cycling little ones legs to relieve trapped wind. All my Lo's wind likes to make a dramatic bottom exit

Will keep trying to think of more.