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Infant feeding

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help - DS V V unsettled after his 3am feed.

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Munz · 14/03/2006 11:40

just wondering if any of u can help.

Joey is 20 days old, exclusivly BF, going VV well I might add (so proud of us both!) anyhow after his 3 am (ish) feed he won't settle back to sleep. he sounds like he's really straining to do a poop but can't - he has no wind to bring up from the top (and his pooping has dwindled over the last week of so - since this has been happening) and his poops have more substance, anyhow, i'm trying infacol on the advice of the h/v but so far it's not helped last night - althou his feeds were more regulated yesterday.

any ideas what else I can do? I wind him for approx 10/15 mins after a feed of approx 25 mins. he did manage one poop this morning and seemed to settle a bit but he likes to do 3 at a time - in the space of half hour or so.

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bluejelly · 14/03/2006 12:07

Well done for getting this far with the bfing!

I read somewhere that b/f babies don't need winding... so never ever did with mine...

He is very young and likely to have unsettled patches, does he co-sleep? Might just be that he doesn't like being put back down on his own in the middle of the night?

Nikkinoo · 14/03/2006 12:15

My DD was terribly collicky, so it would appear that they can be windy. Went thru loads of infacol, but she settled abot 12 weeks (which is normal for most babies).

DD is still windy now, but from the other end... not entirely ladylike!

Nikkinoo · 14/03/2006 12:15

Oh she was and still is BF

wabbitintheheadlamps · 14/03/2006 12:54

Nikkinoo... is that you??? (it's cabe here but have to whisper as I had to change my name... it's a looooong story to do with RL not MN) You were on the Sept 05 thread? I put out a couple of posts wondering where you were... How's Charlotte? think that's what you called your dd (bad memory) Lovely to see you back (if it is you !)

wabbitintheheadlamps · 14/03/2006 12:59

Sorry to crash your thread Munz, has Joey had a cold or virus lately? This really unsettled my ds and he had diarrhoea for weeks and weeks but I think it can affect their digestion in different ways if the bugs get into their tummies, can make them temporarily lactose intolerant. Is it that he only does this straining after the 3am feed?

Nikkinoo · 14/03/2006 13:21

Oh my goodness, was going to ask for you via a thread!!!!

Thank you Charlotte is doing well. How is Conrad? I havent been on here for ages but logged on a few days ago.

Hope your doig well. sorry for typind doing a one handed C is falling asleep on breast. Will just lay her down
x

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Munz · 14/03/2006 15:28

thanks for taking the time girls, lets see,

Blue - we don't co sleep - he's unsettled even if I take him into the bed with me - althou he's calmer once DH is out of it and it's just me and him inbetween two pillows sleeping nicely. (not a habit I wanted to promote thou)

wabbit - it's ok hon, erm he's had the snuffles yes last week - in fact he never usded to settle after his 3am feed cos he was so snuffly (we gave him saline drops and it cleared up), perhaps he's got his system into that pattern?

my M/w today said BF babies don't get constipated as I thought that was the prob - not sure if that's right thou.

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tiktok · 14/03/2006 15:41

Munz, bf babies don't get constipated, it's true, though some of them do seem to make a heck of lot of fussing and grunting about pooing - don't ask me why :) It's probably just the way some babies react to the 'new' sensation of the gut doing its work!

To be honest, I don't think this 'difficult to settle at 3am' business is worth sweating over. I don't think it's worth winding him for this length of time - you could be keeping him awake! Maybe he needs to feed for longer than 25 mins, too. He clearly wants to be with you at that time of the morning and doesn't want to say 'good night'.

Babies can change every day in the first weeks. That's the way he is at the moment - nothing actually wrong!

Tipex · 14/03/2006 15:58

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SoupDragon · 14/03/2006 16:45

Munz, DD is 5 weeks now and oddly enough 4am was her nightmare time! Could never get any wind up either. She also does the straining for a poo too and has gone a whole day with all strain and no results (and when it does produce results, boy does it prosuce results... bless her, discussing her bowel habits on the WWW)

Anyway, that was no help at all because I haven't found a cure but you're not alone. She seems to have settled through the 4am slot though but still does the straining at assorted points during the day and sometimes the poo does seem, erm, stickier! Looking at her strain I struggle to believe the "bf babies don't get constipated" thing but I assume it's true because TikTok says it is :)

BLimey, just reading more of your posts - DD was unsettled at 4am because of snuffles too! That seems to be clearing as well. No more really snuffley, can't breathe to feed, moments.

tiktok · 14/03/2006 17:00

Constipation = dry, hard stools that are painful and/or difficult to pass. Healthy, breastfed babies never produce these.

However, they do sometimes seem to need to put in a lot of effort to get the poo out. But that's not constipation.

wabbitintheheadlamps · 14/03/2006 19:58

Sorry hijack again... Nikkinoo, we're all here \link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=2330&threadid=144679&rnd=1287885928062401\here}
Lovely that it's you and that Charlotte's doing well, do come and join us Sept mums again - I've missed you xxx

celandine · 15/03/2006 21:02

Hi Munz, this sounds exactly like my 11 week old ds. I hate to say this but he's done it from the start and I've only had 2 nights since birth when he's settled after his 4am feed until morning. He always ends up in bed with me, nuzzling, the only way I can get him to settle.

When he wakes around this time he's usually quite windy and quirmy. When I feed him, or give him my finger to suck on (if he's just had a feed and still won't settle) then he poos, so it's the sucking action which helps him to poo. And it's an almightly poo. Then he usually settles ok in bed with me but still won't go back into his moses basket cos I think he's just used to being in bed with me at that time now. It took me a few weeks to figure out it was his poos waking him up. I wish he would do them more in the daytime but I guess it's one area I simply have to admit I have no control over!!

Anyway, if I figure a solution I'll let yo know. In the meantime, I'm getting to bed at 9pm each night to get sleep while ds sleeps well until around 12am.

Good luck, hoefully things will improve for you very soon.

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