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feeding too often over night

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golemmings · 23/04/2012 06:14

Inspired by another thread but didn't want to hijack. Also posted in sleep.

DS is 6 1/2mo and back to feeding every couple of hours overnight.

Started on solids at 25 weeks and he's eating well.

Usually I dream feed on my way to bed at 11 and I'm aiming for one feed 3 or 4ish and then 7.

Last night was particularly bad in that he ecided that going to bed was overrated. I gave up trying after only a couple of attempts to settle him and then he lay on my lap for the best part of an hour until I stuck a boob oj his mouth at 9:15 and he was asleep in 3 minutes.
I just popped him into bed in my way up at half ten. He then woke at midnight when I fed him but put him down asleep and at 3 when DH tried to settle him but the screaming did my head in so I fed him. He woke again at 5 and I spent half an hour parting, cuddling rocking and then left DH to it. He's still screaming hysterically now and sounding exhausted.

We've tried to reduce night feeds before - for a week or so before going on holiday. The plan was to dream feed at 11 and do one more feed at 3-4ish. The first night DS woke up at 1 and screamed at DH for 45 minutes before falling asleep and waking again at 3. And he did the same for the next 6 nights with no improvement at all.

He has no idea how to self settle at all. He has reflux so can't be put down to bed immediately after a feed but has to sit up for half an hour to stop him being sick. I do make sure he doesn't fall asleep with my nipple in his mouth during the day, although he's still being held but don't always manage it at night because Ii often fall asleep during the feed.

He is also dairy intolerant and gets distracted feeding during the day so I'm also concerned about how much milk he actually has. He frequently feeds for little more than an hour in 24 hours with half of that being at night . I know when I express it takes me an hour to produce 4oz. I only hope he is more efficient than the pump.

I know I need to sort this but I'm not sure where to start..

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crazyday · 23/04/2012 06:32

Honestly speaking I would go back to feeding on demand and just letting him use the boob to soothe if he wants.

I have a ds the same age and do anything for maximum sleep. Although he still wakes at night it is not for long as I stick my boob in his mouth and he is back to sleep in a few mins.

I have an older ds btw who I tried to teach to self settle. He is now nearly 4 and a terrible sleeper! Just shows that all kids are different so you might as well do whatever is best for you as I am convinced it doesn't make much difference to the baby's long term sleep habits.

HappyAsASandboy · 23/04/2012 07:12

I agree with crazyday - just feed him when he wakes and you'll all get back to sleep more quickly.

I know that your plans seem entirely reasonable to you, but your DS just can't understand that you'll feed him again in an hour/two hours ut not now. He can't understand your words and has no concept of time, so to him you're just not feeding him when he wants feeding Sad

If you feed him as soon as he wakes, I suspect you'll switch several long, drawn out battles with screaming for several short, quiet feeds. I know which I'd opt for Smile

Good luck! I hope you get some sleep soon.

cairnterrier · 23/04/2012 07:19

I think that he sounds hungry too and needs feeding too. DS was the same and feeding him and then both of us going back to sleep quickly minimised time awake for both of us. Your DS will still need milk as his main source of energy until he's a year old and because his stomach is still relatively small, he needs a constant supply of food/milk.

Could you try feeding more often during the day or alternatively try again in a month?

differentnameforthis · 23/04/2012 07:32

A 6mth old isn't going to go 5 hours, sorry! I think you are being unrealistic.

Don't forget also, that around this age they do go throw a growth spurt, so will need more food.

differentnameforthis · 23/04/2012 07:43

Don't know what happened to half of my post, so I will try again!

A 6mth old isn't going to go 5 hours with no feeds at night on such (what seems to be) limited feeds during the day. It doesn't sound as if he is getting enough to me, but warranted, I am no expert! Is he producing plenty of wet/soiled nappies?

At this age solids should really be noting more than tastes of food, iirc. His main source of food should still be your milk/formula so make sure his solids aren't interfering with his intake from you. Things like, offer him your breast first, then give him solids, not vice versa.

I really think you are trying to push him into a routine too soon, sorry! You cannot manipulate feeds like this to suit YOU. Very Sad that you let him scream for 45 minutes, then fed him over an hour later. he only slept because he was exhausted from crying. He carried this pattern on for 6 nights BECAUSE HE NEEDED FEEDING. Sorry to shout, but babies need food, not they are trying to do your head in Sad

And of course he has no idea how to self settle, he is a baby. He barely knows that the two of your are 2 separate beings, let alone how to settle himself without you or your dh.

differentnameforthis · 23/04/2012 07:43

Through, not throw!

differentnameforthis · 23/04/2012 07:45

but babies cry because they need food, not because they are trying to do your head in

Argh....

golemmings · 23/04/2012 08:01

Well that's pretty unanimous. Thank you.

In my defence at 5 he wasn't showing any of his normal hungry signs - no sucking or kissing and he wasn't just abandonned to cry - he was with DH.

I'm struggling because he will easily go 4hrs plus without a feed during the day. He is offered a bf before and after meals but often refuses more feeds during the day, prefering to catch up at night when there are fewer distractions. And there are distractions during the day because we have a 2yo too.

but thank you for your advice.

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cairnterrier · 23/04/2012 08:36

Oh it's sooooo frustrating when they'll go longer during the day isn't it? I think that you've got it in one, there's just more stuff going on during the day so he's tanking up at night. Can you try sneaking in an extra feed when he's going to sleep for a nap or when he's just woken up from one? Would a dream feed or 2 help? Although I appreciate this might be really hard with a 2 year old (will be in the same position myself from next week!).

Oh god, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Hope you manage to get it sorted OP. And I don't think that there's any other way of finding out whether he's ready to go through the night without giving it a go from time to time and like you say he was with his Daddy so nice and safe and getting lots of cuddles.

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