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Nursery and formula

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SpannerPants · 09/03/2012 13:59

I took almost 8 month old DS for his first settling in session at nursery this week. He is bf and BLW but I'm happy for him to have the odd bottle of formula as I'm crap at expressing. I was asking how I go about sending it in, and they said I had to provide the powder already measured out, and bottles of boiled, cooled water which they mixed together then put in a bottle warmer.

I enquired how hot the bottle warmer heated the milk up, and mentioned that it has to be more than 70 degrees to kill any bacteria in the powder, to be told "well it's the highest setting so it's quite hot - why, does your son like his milk hot?" - completely missing the point!

I then went and spoke to the nursery manager about it, again mentioning that the water needs to be more than 70 degrees in order to kill bacteria and she said that they would make my sons bottles up with freshly boiled water if I requested that, but I felt like she hadn't listened to my concerns and that their normal formula making procedure would continue.

This is the only issue I've had with the nursery, we saw 3 others and this was the best for us by far. In fact, I saw the other local nurseries making formula up like this and queried it with them on our visit, so it seems to be universal practise locally!

I think I'm going to step up the expressing and send EBM for DS (or ready made formula at a push), but would you say anything else to the nursery? Are there any guidelines I should take in?

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milkysmum · 09/03/2012 14:04

This is how every one I know makes up feeds (I am aware this is not what current guidelines state).

thisisyesterday · 09/03/2012 14:09

yeah i would take it up with them. I'm constatnly surprised at the amount of people who do not realise that this is how formula should be prepared.

hang on and i'll find the NHS guidelines

thisisyesterday · 09/03/2012 14:10

here

thisisyesterday · 09/03/2012 14:11

FSA plus at the bottom of that there are further links to making up bottles safely

pommedechocolat · 09/03/2012 14:11

Send cartons. It may be what everyone does but it's not right.

thisisyesterday · 09/03/2012 14:11

ah and this is the one i was looking for. the WHO guidelines

SpannerPants · 09/03/2012 14:12

Thanks, I guess all I can do is show them the guidelines. I'd be really annoyed if I was FFing and they didn't make the bottles up properly and my child got ill though!

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nickelhasababy · 09/03/2012 14:12

formula should always be made up with boiled water at least 70 degrees and then cooled.

the bacteria that you're trying to kill are in the powder. not the water.
you are right, and you must make them change their method.

nhs guidelines

nickelhasababy · 09/03/2012 14:13

bloody hell, i type slowly when holding a baby....
Blush

thisisyesterday · 09/03/2012 14:14

the other thing that is ok to do is for you to make up the formula with freshly boiled water and then chill them. then they just reheat as needed.

it's marginally more risky than making it up fresh, but not a huge amount and is recommended in the WHO guidelines I think for nurseries who will find it easier when preparing quite a lot of bottles

LovesBeingWearingSkinnyJeans · 09/03/2012 14:18

One I looked at send to send in enough made up bottles for tge day.

SpannerPants · 09/03/2012 14:20

yeah that's an idea thisisyesterday - maybe I could suggest that to them as an alternative?

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DialsMavis · 09/03/2012 14:39

I just don't understand why even nurseries can't keep up to date with guidlines, understand them and follow them! As Thisisyesterday says, I think there is even special guidance for nurseries in the guidlines saying it is OK to make feeds up in advance with water of 70 degrees and cool and store them properly. Why do people get their knickers in a twist over it all? that method is just as simple as the old mixing with cooled boiled and reheating method.
Why on earth don't OFSTED check that basic guidlines are not beibg followed?

But, I told my friend the new advice and she now makes bottles up using the correct advice or the "next best thing" way. her husband is a bio medical scientist and refuses when it his turn. he says the destruction of nutrients is more of a worry and that the water being 70 wouldn't kill the nasties anyway...

aggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

lovealookabout · 09/03/2012 15:55

I batch make up my bottles then reheat (I know it's not perfect) and LO is fine never been ill. So sending in bottles that were made scorching hot the quick chilled in fridge sounds like a good idea and certainly what il do when my LO starts nursery if they ask for cooled water x

LST · 09/03/2012 17:10

I make my bottles up with 70 degree boiled water then rapidly cool and warm up when required. But if your worried and your LO is only having a few FF a day I'd buy the cartons Smile

TittyBojangles · 09/03/2012 21:24

I don't ff, but my DS' nursery sent out some info to all parents to say that due to the guidelines for making up ff they requested bottles to be sent in already made up and cooled. So seems that some nurseries are taking notice of the guidelines.

Finallygotaroundtoit · 09/03/2012 21:38

SpannerPants, as it's only an occasional bottle why not send in cartons of liquid formula? This is sterile.

Even if opened and decanted into bottles,it's less risky than what nursery is suggesting you do with powder

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