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Hunker's DS2 and low blood sugars...

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hunkermunker · 21/01/2006 00:39

So, about 20 minutes after DS2 was born, he fed and fed well. His blood sugars were taken a couple of hours later and were 2.4, which was "borderline" - they wanted them to be 2.5.

This went on for a few feeds and he was 2.9 once and 2.4 a couple of times, then in the middle of the night, he dropped to 2.1.

And then the "fun" began...

The midwife who did the test said that she was worried about his blood sugars and she wanted to top him up with formula...

Er, no, I said. No way. I would hand express colostrum if she brought me a syringe to express it into.

She frowned at me and said she didn't think I'd have enough. How much did she think I'd need, I asked. 30ml, she said

So, I fed him, I hand expressed (5ml) and he had that and still his sugars weren't high enough.

A paediatrician came up to see us and repeated that formula was the way forward... I said no.

Fed and had sugars taken the rest of the night, then in the morning things looked a little better, with a couple of 2.4s in a row, but still not high enough.

Paed who came to see us in the morning asked if I was "medical" as she'd had no idea you could hand express colostrum

I said I wanted to go home, but they weren't happy to let me, so brought up another paed (top guy, apparently - he was very nice). I was going to discharge myself, but decided to stay in and make sure DS2 met their "targets". I had a lovely midwife on my side by this time who promised me an amenity room too, which swayed things - the ward was a vile experience!

Paed said DS2 needed two consecutive readings of 2.6 or above or he wanted him taken to the neonatal unit and given iv dextrose. The first was 3.2 (woohoo!), the second was 2.6! I filled in a feed chart overnight and he fed 11 times in 12 hours - my milk came in this afternoon, earlier than I'd expected.

So we were discharged today and I feel quite proud of using nork power It saddens me that the health professionals who are meant to support breastfeeding are so quick to resort to formula.

OP posts:
Auntymandy · 21/01/2006 01:01

I agree!!!
can I ask why they tested blood suger?

hunkermunker · 21/01/2006 01:02

Ah, yes, I had gestational diabetes.

OP posts:
Auntymandy · 21/01/2006 01:05

I see.
They said they should have tested ds3 buti said he had had a good feed, so didnt bother. tat was cos of his size!

Meanoldmummy · 21/01/2006 01:08

I had gestational diabetes too, and the fun and games with blood sugars afterwards DS1's sank to under 1 and it all got rather hairy... I'm glad you got out with your little one OK!! Congratulations hunkermunker, I am delighted for you....and well done!!!!!!!!!!!

sweetkitty · 21/01/2006 07:32

Hunker I had a similar experience with DD except in her case it was through jaundice, she just would not latch on to feed. She slept for the first 3 days of her life right through. They kept forcing my boob into her mouth she was having none of it. They kept doing countless blood tests too and weren't happy, anyway they sent me home the next day and then the day after that we both went back in to be threatened with formula and tube feeding. Reluctantly I did give in and she had one formula feed, but then I told them I was expressing for her, must have been colostrum too was getting 10-20mls every few hours but gave her that it woke her up a bit and through sheer determination on my part we managed to BF too.

But I know what you mean if it hadn't been for my bloodimindedness she would have been on formula from the beginning seems to be their answer for everything, give them formula.

Anyway I hope BFing is going well for you now and I look forward to discussing cracked nipples on the post natal thread!

snafu · 21/01/2006 07:50

Am rofling at the image of a midwife 'innocently' waving the Cow & Gate at you. How little she knew...

Am absolutely chuffed for you and ds2. You should feel very proud of yourself - it's bloody tough to stand up to the pressure to give in to artificial feeding when all around you are flapping about BMs and such. You done good, girl.

Here's to a happy and healthy norkfeeding future xxxx

MarsOnLife · 21/01/2006 08:17

Have the medical staff been offered counselling?

Have the Post Traumatic Stress team been notified?

Did no-one think to warn them?

PMSL

Aloha · 21/01/2006 08:19

Oh WELL DONE Hunker! Fantastic. Nork power...and a bit of MN power too perhaps?
Wish I'd known about it when midwives told me I was 'starving' ds and made me cry and cry
So pleased for you and baby J.

KBear · 21/01/2006 08:23

Proves that despite what they say women generally don't get enough support to breastfeed (I know I didn't but I was determined). Good on you HM.

cathyspam · 21/01/2006 08:31

am at medical 'professionals' trying to force formula on DS! Good on you for sticking to your guns! Saw his photo - beautiful!

Potty1 · 21/01/2006 08:35

Good on ya!

LadySherlockofLGJ · 21/01/2006 08:37

Hunker

Tell the truth....................you would have considered Formula, if it had been Milupa, anything to support MN.

LGJ legs it whilst she still can......~~

foundintranslation · 21/01/2006 08:42

Way to go Hunker!
Wish I'd had the guts to react like that when ds was born (jaundice) - maybe then we wouldn't have struggled for 4 weeks.
At least, thanks to MN, I know what to do next time!

foundintranslation · 21/01/2006 08:43

that should have said struggled with bf for 4 weeks (before finally cracking it, happily)

hercules · 21/01/2006 08:46

Let's hope that the ahem health "professionals" remember you next time this occurs with another baby and arent so quick to use formula.

mandymac · 21/01/2006 09:01

Well done! It takes real strength and confidence to stand up to pressure like that. Glad you had that one midwife on your side - it can make all the difference! I had to fight not to have dd given a bottle, as she was very sleepy and didn't feed for 27hrs. 2 Lovely and very young midwifes (who hadn't even had children), supported me (one had just done what was obviously a very good course on breastfeeding) and basically 'milked' my colostrum into a syringe to give to dd , if it hadn't been for them I would have given up and we wouldn't be here 7 months later still breastfeeding.

moondog · 21/01/2006 09:27

Oh God,am psml at the thought of someone even daring to mouth the word 'formula' at you.

The fools,the FOOLS!!!

Power to the nork!!!

(As you say though,very sad indeed that the people who should be helping are sabotaging from the word go. Tossers.
Another stiff letter methinks,when you have recovered a little.)

Wait unti tiktok,mears and pupuce see this!

beansprout · 21/01/2006 09:32

Am so proud of you Hunker! Nork power rules!!

FrannytheQuinoaEater · 21/01/2006 09:32

YAY for Norkpower (and a good dose of HunkerPower too )

nb how the hell do you hand express colostrum into a syringe? will you start Hunker's expressing workshop when you have a minute please?

Nbg · 21/01/2006 09:36

Well done you!

Can't believe the response from the paed [sigh]!

SoupDragon · 21/01/2006 09:45

Good for you

Miaou · 21/01/2006 09:45

Aha, so it's a boy then!

Congrats hunker, haven't seen an announcement yet, will go looking

(said it would be a boy, didn't I )

BudaBabe · 21/01/2006 09:54

Good for you Hunker - I wasn't as strong and ended up giving formula to DS as his blood sugar was low and they were worried.

My sis thought it was very funny that I had my DS during National Breastfeeding Week in Dublin and still ended up with formula.

Next time I'll call you in!!!

madmarchhare · 21/01/2006 09:59

Really well done HM.

suzi2 · 21/01/2006 10:21

Congrats hunker. How fab that you stuck to your guns and showed them how it's done! Perhaps they will be more helpful to other mums in the same position now!