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Is ds getting enough milk?

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scaryhairydroopytits · 28/01/2012 21:25

Ds is 10 months old and ebf. He has never taken a bottle, even of ebm. He will drink a small amount of water from a cup though.
He now feeds first thing in morning and last thing at night, both boobs. These feeds are quick, done within 10 mins at the max. I regularly offer boob thoughout the day but he mostly refuses, will suck briefly or sometimes even bite and struggle to get down. Occasionally he'll take a feed in late afternoon too.
He generally sleeps 8 till 8, he eats solids well. He poos after most meals, I haven't had him weighed since he was 6 months but he is growing out of clothes and as far as I can tell from the bathroom scales following the 25th centile.
My concern is he doesn't seem to wee as much as I would expect. Ds1 was ff by this stage and his nappies were soaked especially in the mornings, but ds2s overnight nappy is often barely used.
Is there a problem? How can I tell if he's getting enough?
I'm worried that his keeness on solids has led to us getting the balance between them and milk wrong. What could happen to him if he won't take enough milk?
I have fenugreek if I need to increase supply but not taken it yet as I started sertraline 8 days ago and I'm unsure if I can take both together. Anyone know?
Sorry for all the questions...

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gamerwidow · 28/01/2012 23:16

Don't know about the meds question but from everything else you say he seems to being doing fine. Maybe the milk feeds produce less waste which is why he is peeing less? I think it you would quickly be able to see if Ds wasn't getting his nutritional needs met. If he is an otherwise bright and happy baby then don't worry.

MigGril · 29/01/2012 14:16

I'd say the night nappy is dryer as he's not having any feed's overnight. He's pooing well and would probably be consitipated if dyhydrated.

The only though is are you offering snaks? Could be he's eating to many solids and should probably only be having milk inbtween meals at this age.

If your not sure ask your HV.

scaryhairydroopytits · 29/01/2012 14:37

Thanks. No, I don't give him snacks, he gets ready break for breakfast, a sandwich or wrap usually with cheese or hummus or an omelette or beans on toast, homemade soup and bread, something like that for lunch and a yoghurt, then whatever we are having for tea (stew, baked spud, veg etc) and pudding or fruit. Too much food? Ds1 never really took to solids, we are a bit adrift with a child who wants to eat his dinner!

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wrenno · 29/01/2012 19:52

Hello, I've just posted on another similar thread in weaning (sorry, don't know how to link) as I also have a DS (nearly 12 months) who is a very enthusiastic eater but not at all into drinking (refusing both bottles and beakers of water and milk and only having a couple of short breastfeeds a day). Like you, I am also worried that he isn't drinking enough and might be getting dehydrated as while he poos a lot his nappies don't seem that wet...

Sorry to repeat from other thread (and hope I'm not hijacking this one - just sounds like a similar situation!) but few more details below:

He took a bottle from 2 weeks old and we always used to give him a bottle of formula for the night-time dream feed. However, we dropped that a few months ago and since then he hasn't regularly had any bottles... big mistake as he is now refusing bottles completely. I've been trying to get him to take a beaker for the last 6 or so weeks (have tried loads of different cups and different drinks - e.g. water, diluted juice, formula and cow's milk), but he also refuses them - he pushes them away, gets upset and rarely even takes a sip.

So at the moment he's only getting fluid from breastfeeds, but I'm going back to work in a few weeks so I'm really worried about what he will do. I do a breastfeed first thing, and then normally one c.4pm and one at bedtime. I've tried to drop the 4pm breastfeed the last couple of days as I thought that maybe if he got really thirsty he'd then take a cup, however instead he's just got really upset and then also refused the bedtime breastfeed (e.g. so he's really only had one drink a day at the first thing breastfeed).

He eats like a horse (3 huge meals a day, although not really any snacks) and has lots of dairy so I'm not worried about him not getting nutrients/calcium, just really worried that he must be getting dehydrated. He seems fine but has been a bit irritable of late. I've tried getting my husband/mother to give him a bottle instead of me, but he refused it from them too. In fact we left him with my mother for 24 hours at xmas for the first time - and he didn't drink ANYTHING in 24 hours...

Would really appreciate any advice about how to get him drinking...

MigGril · 29/01/2012 21:39

wrenno - don't panic about going back to work, keep offering the breastfeed in the afternoon while you are there. But keep trying with a cup at meal time. Some baby's take more water with a straw type cup at this age so you mite want to give that a try. Or a dodie open cup as they can then lap the water.

Is he still refussing his betime feed, as could be he's now having a nursing stick due to you trying to drop the afternoon feed. It's best not to try force these things when they are hungery/thursty as they will often just refusse. Letting him play with the cup mite help.

I would also stick with one type of cup, swaping is just going to confusse him. And either water or cows milk at this age no juice (trust me not a good habit to start). Don't worry about the bottle's he should be off them by 12months anyhow.

They do sometimes take a while to get it but if he's going to nursay then chances are he'll acutaly pick up drinking from other toddlers there. It's amazing what they learn from children who are just a bit older then them.

scaryhairydroopytits · 30/01/2012 09:50

Yes wrenno, could be same baby. I did a kit day at work last week, gave a bf first thing then next was at 530 pm when I got in, DP said ds2 was fine and settled all day. Is it ok to give cows milk in beaker with meals?

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wrenno · 30/01/2012 19:32

hello, thanks for advice.

felt like we had a small breakthrough at dinner today - DS seemed to take a few sips from the beaker - hoorah! Although I have to admit it was diluted apple juice (quite strong) - just wanted to give him something sweet and yummy to get him going! I take your point though MigGril that this probably isn't a good habit to get into...

I think the answer probably is just perseverance... and I guess trying not to worry as he's probably not dehydrated as such.

Take the point about cup swapping too... shame though as I have two new cups coming in my Sainsbury's order tomorrow morning ;-) We have been doing lots of playing with the cup - I now have a very well-watered area of the kitchen floor, just hope the floorboards don't start rotting!

Any progress for you scaryhairydroopytits (feels wrong to call you that!)? hope so.

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