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Best Formula Milk?

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preciousjule1 · 19/01/2006 13:39

After 2 months of exclusive BF I am weaning my DD onto formula for medical reasons.

Just wondered if anyone had any recommendations for first milk. Pref an organic one as my DD has exzema. My dr recommended Cow & Gate organic, but a friend has recommended Hipp organic.

Any suggestions?

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tiktok · 19/01/2006 14:04

Can you ask your doc and your friend why they have recommended these particular ones?

I'd be interested.....I haven't read anything to indicate that one brand of organic milk is any better than another, but maybe they have.

If there is no real difference, then it makes sense to check out what is on sale nearby so you can always know you can buy what you need without searching high and low!

Don't answer if you prefer not to, but what's the medical reason you are weaning onto formula? Is retaining some breastfeeding an option for you?

HTH

preciousjule1 · 19/01/2006 18:53

My little girl has breast milk jaundice so I have to cut out all BF for a while. Am def hoping to go back to BF as she loves it and we've never had any problems. That's why I'm keen to get the best formula as I never intended to use it before 6 months.

The reason they recommened these brands was all about taste, but you're so right as the Cow & Gate is sooo hard to find in my local shops.

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Aloha · 19/01/2006 18:54

What is breast milk jaundice? How can it possibly benefit your dd to stop breastfeeding?

Aloha · 19/01/2006 18:57

This is from the Children's Liver Disease Foundation website. It says nothing about giving up breastfeeding. Who says you have to give it up? Why?
Breast Milk Jaundice
Posted: 17 August 2004

You are advised to read the section on Baby Jaundice before reading below.

Sometimes jaundice continues after the baby is 14 days old in a full-term baby and 21 days in a premature baby. If the baby is breast fed then quite frequently parents are reassured that it is breast milk jaundice, which is harmless and will go away with time. It is important however that this diagnosis is made by testing. The vast majority of babies will have breast milk jaundice but a very few will have liver disease jaundice - or even both.

In these babies it is vital that the following is carried out:

The colour of the stools and urine are checked

The urine of a newly born baby should be colourless.
The stools of a breast fed baby should be green / daffodil yellow colour.
The stools of a bottle fed baby should be green / English mustard colour
If the urine is yellow and / or the stools pale this can indicate liver disease and you should report this to your midwife, health visitor or doctor.

A split bilirubin blood test.
This measures the ratios of the conjugated and unconjugated bilirubin levels in the blood. If the conjugated fraction is greater than 20% of the total bilirubin the baby should be referred to a specialist paediatric liver unit for investigation as this indicates that the cause is a liver disease.

Some babies who are breast fed may have jaundice which continues but the blood levels are perfectly normal except for the raised total bilirubin. In these cases the stool and urine colour is normal. A diagnosis of breast milk jaundice is often given. Breast milk jaundice is harmless and will gradually disappear. In a small number of cases it can take a few months to totally disappear.

Breast milk jaundice is common. It is important that if jaundice persists a split bilirubin test is carried out so a diagnosis is made based on fact rather than an assumption.

My baby has breast milk jaundice, what should happen now?

CLDF's experience is that most parents want to be reassured that the baby's bilirubin level is returning to normal. Initially, it is suggested that the serum bilirubin level is measured weekly until the bilirubin level returns to normal. In cases where the jaundice takes a long time to diminish, the jaundice level can be tested further apart, providing the trend is that the bilirubin level is reducing.

mummytosteven · 19/01/2006 18:57

aloha - breast milk jaundice is a rarish condition that does exist - almost like the baby is allergic to the mother's breast milk. My mother helpfully suggested that was why DS was jaundiced as a newborn....

mummytosteven · 19/01/2006 18:58

by breast milk jaundice i mean something different to physiological jaundice

misdee · 19/01/2006 18:58

here doesnt say you need to stop breastfeeding tho. says it'll clear up untreated.

chicagomum · 19/01/2006 18:59

I was told by a BF advisor at NCT classes that the organic formulas are much higher in salt compared to the non organic ones as it can be used as a preservative (apparently there is no organic "controls" on salt). Don't know how true this is but worth checking.

mears · 19/01/2006 19:02

Stopping breastfeeding for breast milk jaundice used to be common years ago. As far as I was aware that advice stopped. Baby should be examined thoroughly by a paediatrician to exclude any other cause for jaundice such as biliary problems in the liver. If the diagnosis is definitely breast milk jaundice then there is no need to stop breast feeding and it will eventually right itself.

mummytosteven · 19/01/2006 19:02

ignore my posts - the info posted by aloha explains it properly.

Aloha · 19/01/2006 19:09

i am certainly no expert, but i do know that mostly advice to stop breastfeeding is wrong. As I say, i don't know, but also found this on a gp website:

Breast milk jaundice is a relatively common cause of prolonged neonatal jaundice. It may be due to a complex steroid in breast milk, 3-alpha, 20-beta pregnanediol, which inhibits hepatic glucuronyl transferase. Mild jaundice may last for weeks.

Mothers should be encouraged to continue with breast feeding as the condition resolves spontaneously.

Breast milk jaundice may be confused for jaundice due to fluid deprivation.

tribpot · 19/01/2006 19:12

I really do mourn the idea of anyone who has got breastfeeding so well established having to give it up (as a failed breastfeeder myself). Obviously if you move her to formula exclusively (and don't continue to express very regularly) your milk will dry up and you won't be able to go back, how long are your doctors suggesting she be on formula for?

I must say, I'm with the others on this. Definitely seek more info before giving up breastfeeding, you may not be able to go back.

If your dd has excema, I would be concerned about putting her on to any 'normal' formula in case it's an intolerance to dairy, I assume she is getting this from you now (unless you've cut dairy out of your diet?). All the more reason to keep her on breastmilk if you can, I would have thought.

In terms of formula recommendations, I used Aptamil initially and then moved ds on to Omneo Comfort because he is so refluxy.

tiktok · 20/01/2006 11:10

Just backing up the comments here about breastmilk jaundice....I have not heard of anyone having to stop bf even temporarily, though every so often I am contacted by someone who has been advised to....when they get a second opinion or inform themselves, they end up continuing to breastfeed.

NotQuiteCockney · 20/01/2006 11:12

I continue to be boggled by the bad advice that medical professionals give about bf.

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