Soy formula / mixed feeding?

[KnockedUpMell]

I am going back to work in March when DS will be 1y. I will be working shifts and as DS feeds mainly at night (we bf with minimal expressing at the moment), i am worried about how DH will cope when i am on nights. We are struggling with expressing as my milk seems to go off rather quickly (half the batch that I had frozen smells sour despite me freezing it immediately) and he often refuses expressed milk. I am going to try keeping milk in the fridge to see how long before it goes off, and try storing it in glass (using Medela bags atm). We haven't tried formula and he is also dairy intolerant. So I have 2 questions.

1. How do I get hold of soy formula? Is it through my GP? Or from a supermarket?

1. Provided he accepts soy formula, I am assuming a pump and dump approach will work to maintain my supply if we continue to have trouble storing milk?

You can order Wysoy through Sainsburys online.
There's quite a bit of controversy about soy and I'm sure someone will pop on in a minute and tell you how bad it is.
From my point of view, I did quite a bit of investigating and looked at the original research papers and decided it was good enough for my PFB. There are some lactose free formulas you can try first if you're not sure

I didn't BF so can't advise there. Good luck.

queen is it suitable for over 1y?

And a quick question about starting soy formula- I know DS is dairy intolerant becaus he gets diarrhoea with the slightest intake of dairy, but he has never been formally tested. Will I need to take him to the GP before starting soy formula?

I think its probably worth going to your GP. I think they make the formulas for different age groups.

Mell, you might be able to avoid your milk going off by briefly scalding it before storing - it's not an uncommon issue www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/lipase-expressedmilk.html

You can google the risks of soya formula yourself - current guidance in the UK is only to use it when it is certain the baby cannot tolerate ordinary formula. The risks are excessive tooth decay because of the humungous amount of sugar in it (needed to make it palatable and to boost the calories in it) but you could combat that with good tooth brushing, I suppose; high aluminium content; plant hormones.

Hope this helps :)

My DS is dairy intolerant also, he is ebf at the moment but was having a top up of prescription formula which he now refuses to take as it tastes and smells foul! Apparently a lot of babies who are dairy intolerant are also soya intolerant, the prescription formula is lactose free, so the protein which causes the problem is already broken down.

I was having soya milk and other soya products due to his allergy and made my poor DS really sicky :( he is actually fine if I have cows milk in my tea etc.

Hope this helps! The formula does smell and taste awful compare to breast milk which is why I have a prob combination feeding with it.

See if the gp will do a thorough allergy test. Soya intolerance/allergy is common too unfortunately.
As he's over 1, it might be appropriate to try normal plant milks instead of formula?
Oat milk is tasty and I've not heard of there being any issues with it.

I'm certain he's not soya intolerant- he can handle the alpro yogurt pots fine. So if babies over 1 don't need formula, is goats milk a viable alternative provided he's not allergic to it?

tiktok I think I'll barely have time to express at work, and wouldn't be able to scald milk till I got home... I'll be working shifts so it will be several hours at least... I was going to experiment to see how long the milk will keep in the fridge and freezer, to see if it llooks like it'll survive the commute.

So assuming expressing doesn't work, a pump and dump approach will maintain my supply?

And if he can handle goats milk, that is presumably a better option than soy formula?

Alpro now a fortified soya milk for babies aged 12 months plus. It's the one with a giraffe on the front, and is quite palatable compared to some other milk-alternatives.

DS's consultant and dietician said soya formula is more of a concern when given from birth and during early months; neither had any concerns about it being DS's main drink after a year of age, but I am still not entirely convinced it is brilliant for him. Luckily he loves the toothbrush and eats lots of food . He is dairy intolerant too.

I wouldn't bother with an allergy test; RAST blood tests can show up negative even where there is evidently a fairly serious milk intolerance.

Goat's milk proteins are fairly similar to cow's I understand; Dietician we saw was fairly sniffy about any mammalian milks and said they were probably a hiding to nothing. Presumably your DS could have pasteurised whole goat's milk as a drink if he turns out not to be allergic to it, no need to buy the incredibly expensive goat's milk 'formula'. But I could be wrong about that. I am just going on the logic that babies can have normal cow's milk from a year on.