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Infant feeding

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BFeed to sleepers, I learnt a fantastic trick today

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MotherPanda · 10/12/2011 17:15

Have just read 'the no-cry sleep solution' by Elizabeth Pantley which I really recommend, and am just about to start using some of her suggestions.

When breast feeding your baby to sleep, feed until baby is sleepy, and then unlatch and press your finger under babies chin to keep it closed, so that your baby gets used to falling asleep without boob in his/her mouth.

I though it was rubbish - but it worked first go! (the book said you might have to try up to five times) My dd fell asleep... without boob in her mouth, and didn't even cry about it...

Sorry if this is common knowledge... but I've been feeding to sleep for the last 5 months, so this tiny step forward is amazing. And that is the only thing I've tried from the book so far... will keep you updated.

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Annpan88 · 10/12/2011 17:24

Will be trying tonight thanks! Will let you know how it goes!

DW123 · 10/12/2011 18:38

The one that worked from her book for me was resettling when they wake after a short nap. Took about 4 days then DT slept for an hour.

bagelmonkey · 10/12/2011 18:46

How did you resettle after the short naps DW123?

sleepatlast · 10/12/2011 18:52

I'm resettling after short nap by feeding to sleep....and just adressing feeding to sleep at bedtime.so far 1 wk of 1.5 hr naps by going in just before would normally wake,when he does feed to sleep. Apparently doesn't matter that feeding to sleep to join naps together as after 2w he should do it on his own

DW123 · 10/12/2011 19:12

Hi - DT regularly woke from nap after 20 mins. Elizabeth Pantley recommended hanging around at that time and diving in when you heard the first cries. I resettle by holding him as normal then putting him down again. fter a few days he resettles at that time himself. It was as though he had read the book himself it worked so well. Sadly his brother hasn't read the book. Hey ho

DW123 · 10/12/2011 19:44

And so far it only works with naps. Am feeding back to sleep about 4 times a night.

Chocchip88 · 10/12/2011 21:23

Ah the Pantley Pull Off! I remember trying that thinking it would never work and was completely shocked (and thrilled!) that it did. Glad it's working for you too!

AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 10/12/2011 23:36

Ha! I did the resettling thing, sleepatlast, and it took about 7 months for DS to start doing it on his own.

Even then he'd start doing it again during developmental leaps.

I do think the NCSS is good though. The toddler one is even better.

harverina · 10/12/2011 23:42

Ah the Pantley Pull Off Method...wonderful! Worked a treat for me when my DD was 9 months old and really helped her sleep better during the night as she was able to self settle if she woke (unless she was hungry).

Have just bought the toddler one...havent quite worked up the motivation to read it as my DD is going 10-12 hours a night at the moment...I bought it after having a couple of sleepless nights in desperation a few weeks ago!

AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 10/12/2011 23:45

I don't know why I'm still here - DS is currently waking me 3 or 4 times a night and has been for ages. No idea why, but the pattern keeps changing so I suspect the reasons keep changing.

harverina · 10/12/2011 23:48

Oh Angel, I'm sorry :(

AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 10/12/2011 23:51

Nah, I'm used to it.

I got all excited for a month or so when he was 17 m.o. when he was consistently waking either once at my bedtime (fair enough, I disturb him coming to bed) or sleeping through. I keep waiting for him to get back to that pattern!

Hooray for co-sleeping is all I can say. I don't usually wake up properly enough to look at the time, so it could be a LOT worse. And after having several weeks where he was waking every 2 hours but bf to sleep had stopped working, I'm very grateful that it now works again. :)

harverina · 10/12/2011 23:53

We don't cosleep which made difficult times very hard. What does Pantley say about cosleeping?

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MotherPanda · 11/12/2011 07:49

Parley is all for safe co sleeping, though does say it might be trickier for you all to sleep through the night.

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MotherPanda · 11/12/2011 07:49

Pantley! iPhone, sorry.

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AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 11/12/2011 08:23

Yes, she likes it - but she does say there are a few children who don't sleep well while co-sleeping. I don't think DS is one of them as he can sleep very well with me there (and very badly without me there!)

The baby book says something like 'you may need to choose between co-sleeping and just sleeping'. I read it when DS was a (non-co-sleeping) newborn and wondered who these mental nutters were who'd choose co-sleeping over just sleeping. Now I know (I suspect I'd be one of them! ).

NellyOC · 11/12/2011 19:33

Thank you, I was just reading this on my phone while sat bfeeding my 5month old DS and tried it and it's worked...rushes of to buy the book!

bagelmonkey · 11/12/2011 20:04

I tried hanging around while DD had her micro-nap & settling her as soon as she stirred, but it didn't work :(
I'll keep trying, and see if we get anywhere. I keep reminding myself that in a couple of years she won't need any daytime naps......

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MotherPanda · 12/12/2011 13:02

She does have a book that concentrates on napping, it might have more suggestions in there - I think it's the no cry nap solution or something like that.

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moogdroog · 12/12/2011 15:13

I'm having no luck with the PPO . DD (7mo) just moves my hand away when I'm trying to hold it under her chin and it's resulting in even longer night wakings.
I had high hopes! Any tips?

BertieBotts · 12/12/2011 15:21

I didn't do the finger under chin thing but I did do the taking the boob out thing.

In my case what worked was waiting until DS was doing the more loose, unconscious, almost open-mouthed sucking and instead of using a finger to break the seal (doesn't work too well once they have teeth!) I would just press on one side of my boob so the nipple kind of flipped out of his mouth sideways. If he did the rooting thing I'd just shrink back slightly so he'd have to go pretty far to reach and that seemed to serve the same purpose. She does say if they don't settle within a few seconds they're too awake, replace boob and carry on.

DS was about 9 or 10 months when I tried it I think.

moogdroog · 12/12/2011 20:06

Thanks BertieBotts, will try that. Think sticking my fat old finger in her gob wakes her up more than it ought to anyway. I'll dispense with the chin thing too and see how it goes!

AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 12/12/2011 22:49

bagel, how old is your DD?

moogdroog, the PPO didn't really work for us for AGES but I have had success with it at points since. Don't feel too disheartened if it doesn't work now.

bagelmonkey · 13/12/2011 05:43

She's 10 months. She has managed a few longer naps in the past, but none over 35 minutes for almost a month. I'd actually managed to stop feeding her to sleep, for a while too, but now she's so overtired she's nodding off during feeds again. :(

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