violently sick after formula

[DogEars]

Our 5 week old DS has been breast fed but on three occasions when we'vetried him on formula he's been fine for about 2 hours and then vomits the whole lot up , not just normal baby sick, but what seems like the whole feed, he looks seriously unwell, very pale and lethargic. This last time tonight we tried him on just one ounce with his normal breast feeding and we were poised just-in-case hoping he'd be fine as we used a different brand (sma vs aptimil).

But still the same, is this normal what can we do?

Why are you adding formula in? Not a loaded question, just wondering!

All of my dcs have projectile vomited sma but kept others down perfectly well. What bottles are you using, and what teats? Maybe it's coming a little too quick for him? You could try a smaller teat size or maybe feeding him sitting upright so he has to suck to get the milk rather than allowing gravity to let the milk flow into his mouth. Always make sure that the teat is filled with milk though.

See if any of that helps!

button he keeps it down fine for around two hours before suddenly bringing it all back up, looking very pale, so I guess it's not to do with the treat or anything? We've tried two different brands, maybe we'll try another, cheers.

Not normal. It sounds like a dairy issue. It may be a dairy allergy. This happened to best friend and her baby. He would also vomit and become pale and lethargic after formula.

You need to see GP urgently and do not give any more formula.

My friend now. Carries an epi pen in case her DS ( now toddler) accidentally has dairy

You can get various non dairy formulas but the smell vile. My friend bfed her DS for a year as he refused the dairy free formula. Once he was 1 she used soy milk and yogurts. But not below age of 1.

I agree - this is worth investigating.

It's not normal to throw up violently after two hours and to look seriously unwell, and changing brands as an experiment is not a good idea, if it's the formula he is reacting to, because all brands are virtually the same.

If you are certain you want to continue offering formula, then it would be sensible to see your doc/HV and discuss it first.

Is it important your baby has formula? If if he is intolerant/allergic/sensitive to dairy, it would be wise to wait some time before offering it again.
Hope you get some good help.

Apologies - I missed the bit about being pale and lethargic. Was feeding my ds dairy free formula at the time!

I agree with those above. If he's unwell with it then it's worth seeing a doctor. You might (unless you have a v good gp) end up having to be referred to a paed consultant as gps can be very reluctant to prescribe the dairy free formula as it is hellishly expensive.

Again - I'm being nosey but why is he having formula? If it is possible to feed for longer then it's got to be better than dairy free formula - it smells like rotten potatoes. DDs have nicknamed ds Spud!

Dogears, is your wife still having trouble with bf? Has she been back to the baby cafe? Sorry to hear you have to go down the ff route to found your LO allergic to it.

No advice here. Just a post of support.

Hypoallergenic formulas need not taste horrible. Aptamil Pepti tastes very much like normal Pepti. It's Nutramigen and Neocate which taste awful -- those are for babies with severe milk allergies. In Pepti the milk protein has been extensively hydrolyzed so as to be tolerated by many (if not most?) dairy-allergic babies. My allergic DS has been on it since he was 6 months old. However, if your baby is only 5 weeks old, I don't think the taste is such a big deal. After about 7 months it becomes more difficult to introduce weird-tasting formulas.

I agree with the above messages. It does sound like your baby may be allergic to cow's milk protein. Are you or the father's family atopic in any way (history of asthma, hayfever or eczema)? If so, I think it's important you mention that to your GP.

Ah - I get it.

This is a solely formula fed baby who on three occasions only has been sick. Your post made it sound like he was breastfed, and had formula on three occasions and on each of them he had been violently sick.

Sorry for misunderstanding!

It still needs investigating, but if he is ok the rest of the time then it's not so urgent, IMO.

I'm glad you get it tiktok - I'm now woefully confused!

I agree with whoever said taste is not a big thing at this age. DS was utterly oblivious when we changed about 4 weeks ago. He was 12 weeks then. (Though he can and always could taste his reflux meds so not sure how that works ) It's the smell of nutramigen that I hate. It's nauseating. If it wasn't helping his reflux (to an extent) then I'd be happy to see the back of it!

I think a little clarification for us confused people and possibly a chat with your gp/hv would really help OP.

Yes - I am confused again, now, as the OP clearly states 'tried him on an ounce with his normal breastfeeding'......:(

I'm stepping out of this! OP, you need to speak to a doctor anyway - sick and looking seriously unwell is not good.

It was early when I posted so maybe I wasn't clear, DS is exclusively breastfeed but it's not going well and we'd like the option of formula, but it's not looking good, we'll see what the GP says , cheers all .