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Need to increase your milk production? - try this!

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WellieMum · 14/12/2005 02:06

Have been reading a fabulous book with lots of suggestions for increasing milk production.

My favourite is: "The pouder of earth wormes, dryed and dronken in the brothe of a neates tonge"

(apparently a "neate" is an ox, cow or heifer)

So this is what the up-to-date HV of the 16th century would have been forcing down my throat.....

The book is called "The Boke of Chyldren" by Thomas Phaer, and it's a sort of early paediatric text book. It was published in 1544, and some of the stuff is a bit yuck, but some of it stands up today, eg I notice he also mentions fennel as being good for milk, and that's still going strong.

The "breast vs bottle" debate of his day was "own mother vs wet nurse" and he's very strongly in favour of breastfeeding your own child. Says it is "moost commendable and holsome". So, no changes there.

He also says that sleep is very important for babies ("slepe is the nouryshment and foode of a suckyng chylde", and that "baby pasta is thee worke of thee devylle". Seems a sensible chap really.

(OK, OK, the last quote is made-up. )

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dulwichmummy · 14/12/2005 19:25

LOL welliemum

Harktheheraldcabewillsing · 14/12/2005 19:44

"Neate" Welliemum! love it... Where did you come across the text???

thecattleareALOHing · 14/12/2005 19:46

Slepe would be the bloody nouryshment of this particularly knackerede mothyr if I could get any. DD still awake btw, only now with dh.

Helenemjay · 14/12/2005 21:27

Lol!! very good!!

Harktheheraldcabewillsing · 14/12/2005 21:32

excellent

christmasdinnyer · 14/12/2005 21:32

anyone heard of Tiger's Milk? two pints whole milk, 2 brewer's yeast tablets and 2 bananas?

moondog · 14/12/2005 21:33

Hilarious!

WellieMum · 14/12/2005 23:31

Aaaah, thecattle..etc., now what you need for your sleepless dd is to "annoynte the forehead and temples of the chylde wyth oyle of vyolettes and vynegre, putting a droppe or .ii. into the nosethrylles".

Alternatively, (and I have a strong suspicion that this would work really, really well ): "yf ye can get anye syrupe of poppye, gyve it the chylde to lycke"....

Harktheherald, I have a serious second-hand bookshop addiction, so have all sorts of strange books floating around. Am enjoying this one lots, although it's not exactly an easy read.

Some of the maladies are a bit mysterious ("Brustynge", anyone? Sounds painful, whatever it is) but some are hot topics to this day (eg "Pyssynge in bedde").

Actually, I think the author must have been a secret mumsnetter, because he has a whole section with remedies for "Swellyng of the coddes"

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PruniStuffing · 14/12/2005 23:34

Brustynge means bursting.
Is it the pox?

Did you know that coddes meant testicles? As in cod-piece.

Harktheheraldcabewillsing · 14/12/2005 23:54

Really am rolling on the floor laughing here - Hmmm I wondered if Brustynge meant bursting. Well anyway, I think my sides are doing it

You've got a real gem there, quite
Can we come to this thread with our baby ailments for Thomas Phaer's words of wisdom??

Will be looking out for 'poppye' syrup then!!!

Harktheheraldcabewillsing · 14/12/2005 23:57

ChristmasDinnyer - I think Tigers Milk sounds as though it would make me fart! I wouldn't be a very friendly bedroom companion

PruniStuffing · 14/12/2005 23:58

I could really do with some poppye syruppe...is it on the nhs?

thecattleareALOHing · 15/12/2005 10:16

Oyle of viollettes or whatever sounds lovely. And yes, I bet opium did a great job of getting babies to sleep

Redtartanlass · 15/12/2005 10:21

Welliemum keep 'em coming...

What's the cure for a baby cough?

wilbur · 15/12/2005 10:29

LOL re baby pasta, wellie mum. Love this kind of stuff (just drinking a cup of fennel tea right now as it happens).

WellieMum · 18/12/2005 17:47

Sorry, was away from computer!

Right. If coddes are testicles, then brustynge must be a hernia, because it's when "the guttes fall downe into the cod"... mystery solved, thanks to the power of mumsnet communal brain!

Redtartanlass, lots of options to treat a cough, eg you have to "feed the child wyth a more slendre dyete and to annoynt the heade over wyth honye".

There's a long recipe where I don't recognise half the ingredients, but it includes "liquyrice" so it must have been popular. Washed down with "a draught of milk newly warme as it commeth from the cowe".

Or more simply, "stamp blaunched almons and wrynge them out wyth the juyce of fenell, or water of fenell, and gyve to the chylde to feade wyth a lytle suger" - clearly Thomas Phaer had similar ideas to Mary Poppins about how to get children to take their medicines.

Anyone need "an experte medicine to dryve awaye lyse"? Or teething remedies? Call Dr Phaer now!

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