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Breastfeeding 'nurse-off' in Liverpool this Saturday 1pm!

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neenz · 17/05/2011 17:13

There is a breastfeeding 'nurse-off' taking place at Liverpool One shopping centre this Saturday from 1-2pm. This is to tie in with Sefton Breastfeeding Month.

Facebook page here

So please come along if you are still breastfeeding your baby and take part in this mass public breastfeed Smile

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RedHeels · 17/05/2011 19:15

What if a baby does not want to eat between 1 and 2pm? Does his mother need to hang her boob out in solidarity? (flippant Grin)

organiccarrotcake · 17/05/2011 19:17

Grin @ Redheels.

But seriously, if this an awareness-raising event or a protest?

neenz · 17/05/2011 21:44

It's awareness-raising. My friend has organised it. It's just a bit of fun and also to show that's it's OK for women to breastfeed in public.

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RedHeels · 18/05/2011 14:43

Sorry, I'm not anywhere near so just bumping it.

MrsMilton · 18/05/2011 23:03

This is the sort of thing that gives breastfeeding and the millions of normal women who do it everywhere, everyday, without waving a flag and shouting "look at me"... a bad name. Sorry, it is totally counter-productive.

MrsMilton · 18/05/2011 23:03

Oh, and I am happily bfing a 15 month old.

AppleyEverAfter · 19/05/2011 09:24

I think the point is that many women, especially younger mums, don't even bother to start BFing because they don't see people doing it often enough and sadly some people's attitudes are still that BFing should not be done in public.

Bigmacplease · 19/05/2011 10:34

I know where you are coming from MrsMilton but I think that these events are really productive. I'm the mum breastfeeding in the car park or toilet cubicle because I don't feel comfortable bf in public. If I saw more women bf out and about I think I would feel more ok with it. These events raise awareness and in my opinion really help us shy guys! Good luck ladies!

neenz · 19/05/2011 13:09

We're just hoping to raise awareness and get some coverage in the papers. By your reckoning then Mrs Milton, should there even be a Breastfeeding Awareness Week?

The problem is that for every baby in the UK, £20 is spent on formula marketing, but just 14p is spent on breastfeeding promotion. We hope to rebalance that a little bit. Imagine if there was a nurse-off all over the country? It would be great for trying to normalise breastfeeding which is what we need, especially in some area (like the north west).

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OhYeahOhRight · 20/05/2011 07:37

Readdress the balance? The focus from HCPs is solely on BF (understandably) and there is little to no accurate information on preparation and use of formula, for those of us unable to BF. I think everyone knows that breast is best (yes, even in the North West) and I dont think that this will normalise anything at all. But it does seem like a good opportunity to be publicly smug about being able to BF Grin

For what it's worth, I've never met a single woman who refused to BF due to a lack of awareness, but I have spoken to plenty who found BF painful and distressing; who had babies literally screaming with hunger for days, and who then felt like they'd failed at the first hurdle and will always feel guilty about it, me included.

But thanks for the heads up, I'll be sure to give Liverpool One a miss on Saturday Grin

OhYeahOhRight · 20/05/2011 08:00

Ah, sorry for such an arsey post, been up since 3am. Good luck with your nurse off, OP, hope it goes well.

RJandA · 20/05/2011 08:37

Try this OYOR

Is breast best?

It's terrible if you and women you know didn't get the support you needed in the early weeks of breastfeeding, and I hope I won't sound patronising to say you didn't "fail" and you shouldn't feel guilty.

But there are plenty of women who don't breastfeed because it never occurs to them, or they don't think it's the kind of thing people like them do, think it's only for rich people, posh people, older mums, or hippies. If a bunch of women can get together and say "look, all sorts of people breastfeed" then I think that's fine.

Of course it's a shame if it reminds those who have struggled of a difficult time, but hopefully it will get more people bfing, and the more who bf, the more people there will be to help others bf.

neenz · 20/05/2011 09:01

OYOR - you definitely should not feel guilty. You are right to feel ANGRY, because you were badly let down by a system which tells you you should breastfeed but then does not support you when you have problems.

There needs to be millions of pounds invested in breastfeeding support - it makes such a difference and it would have done to you. Hopefully if there is a next time there will be better help on offer for you.

I work as a peer supporter here in Sefton and I can assure that there are women here who don't know there is a difference between BF or FF.

The info about prep of formula is on the side of every box. This is not about being smug - it's about raising awareness and making people think, and also making people aware of the help that is on offer: lots of it in Sefton now thankfully and there is a breastfeeding support team at Liverpool Women's Hospital now too.

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KaraStarbuckThrace · 20/05/2011 09:09

'For what it's worth, I've never met a single woman who refused to BF due to a lack of awareness, but I have spoken to plenty who found BF painful and distressing; who had babies literally screaming with hunger for days, and who then felt like they'd failed at the first hurdle and will always feel guilty about it, me included.'

And you shouldn't feel guilty - you should feel angry because you have been let down!

As a peer supporter I want to see much more time and resource in assisting mums who are trying to breastfeed, then try to convince the ones who don't want to.
Virtually all women have the ability to breastfeed (otherwise the human race would have died out thousands of years ago, or evolved a different way to feed our babies). But it is a skill both you and baby have to learn, and you do this by being supported and by observing other mothers around you breastfeeding. These things have been lost over the past few decades. And some women will find it more difficult than others (particularly if the baby itself has a problem with effective latch, e.g. tongue tie, DS, prematurity etc.).

If we can help mums who want to breastfeed to do so and for longer, we will see more and more mums bfing. And perhaps the ones who don't simply because it has never occurred to them to do so (mainly because they are accustomed to seeing bottle feeding around them) may think "hey I might give that a go, HV is always banging on that it is better to bfed and if all those women I have seen can do it, maybe I can?" This is the point that RJandA were trying to make.

BTW Neez - good luck with the nurse-in!!

KaraStarbuckThrace · 20/05/2011 09:09

Neez - we think alike!

neenz · 23/05/2011 14:50

It was a lovely event - really nice to see so many women breastfeeding in public. It really highlighted (to me anyway) how little you do see women BFing in public though (in these parts anyway). Even some of the women there said they would never BF in a restaurant Sad. That's a shame because it should just be a normal thing that thousands of women do all the time.

newspaper article here

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