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Infant feeding

Get advice and support with infant feeding from other users here.

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channel 5 vanessa on now

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hmmSleep · 07/02/2011 11:23

Good breastfeeding advice on vanessa right now.

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Lynzjam · 07/02/2011 12:20

I missed that. Would've liked to have heard what was said!

TittyBojangles · 07/02/2011 12:31

I think it'll be on fiver in a bit

TittyBojangles · 07/02/2011 13:50

Oh dear, it was CBC. Sorry guys

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hmmSleep · 07/02/2011 14:49

www.five.tv/shows/the-vanessa-show/episodes/episode-20-86 Haven't had time to check, but you might find it here.

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hmmSleep · 07/02/2011 15:43

Ignore link above, it's here , 12 minutes in. It seems to get rather slagged off in the comments mind!

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BertieBotts · 07/02/2011 15:58

I only saw the last 5 seconds of it admittedly, but what advice I did see was shocking! Advice to routinely start giving a bottle from 3 weeks to get the baby used to it - I hate this one, it puts pressure on new mums and doesn't even work. Most of the bottle refusing posts on here seem split 50/50 between babies who have never had a bottle and babies who have had a regular bottle from early on. (Not to mention problems with supply it can cause)

I didn't realise it was her. That explains a lot

tiktok · 07/02/2011 16:04

Shame both the 'questions from viewers' were about breastfed babies who won't take a bottle (not CBC's fault, of course!).

Shame CBC was so dogmatic about babies having to take a bottle before three weeks old - the truth is that this guarantees nothing at all.

Shame she was so certain that 'baby feeding all the time' means the mother doesn't have enough milk - there are all sorts of reasons why a baby might be feeding 'all the time' and 'all the time' needs to be defined anyway.

Shame she advised expressing to see how much milk the mother is making (that is a real shame as this strategy is certainly responsible for many women losing confidence in breastfeeding - often for no reason at all).

Shame she did not seem to know that a six month old who refuses a bottle can use a cup - often by far the easiest strategy for a mother who needs to give a bottle at this stage to a 'refuser'.

Shame she was introduced as a breastfeeding consultant - a made-up term which is linked with no qualifications or supervision.

Shame she is so often on television with such poor information.

I am sure she does help some women. I wish she was more consistent with this.

porcamiseria · 07/02/2011 21:51

god even I know thats shit advice, and I have only BF 2 babies for 6 months each!

Tryharder · 07/02/2011 23:28

DD (ebf)fed "all the time" in the early days. I am however fairly positive that I have enough milk given that she is still alive and is very fat already bursting out of her 6 - 9 month old clothes despite only being just 6 months old (haven't had her weighed for months).

Again, if I were to express now, I would get 2 possibly 3 oz out. Never could express.

I don't know much about CBC apart from what I have read on here but it also makes me sad that such crap advice is being given out unchallenged.

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hmmSleep · 08/02/2011 08:15

Ha, only had chance to watch the first bit, must watch the second. I've heard her slagged off on here before but actually didn't think the advice she gave in the 5 minutes I did see was so bad (and I have ebf 3 children).

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tiktok · 08/02/2011 08:44

hmmSleep - she started off by emphasising that the way the baby takes the breast is important to avoid soreness. Nothing wrong with that. She suggested a major part of this is women's large breasts/nipples and babies' small mouths, which may be a factor in some difficulties with latch, but not all of them.

Her method of positioning is something that she clearly finds is helpful, but it is by no means the only way.

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hmmSleep · 08/02/2011 09:19

Yes, that's the bit I saw. I think I found it useful because I am one of those woman, all my babies have been tiny with tiny mouths, and I have rather large nipples. When I got incredibly sore cracked bleeding nipples with Dd1 the only advice I was given was to make her open her mouth wider, and I remember thinking but she's opening her mouth as wide as she can! I agree with you totally that just as I was led to believe this was the only solution the advice given by CBC shouldn't have been so narrow as if it was the only way.

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TittyBojangles · 08/02/2011 09:33

It does annoy me that it seems to be the normal thing to presume all bf women will want to give a bottle. While obviously loads do, and of course there is nothing wrong with it, I do think it puts pressure on women to think this is what is expected.

I was struggling to get my DS to take a bottle, trying a couple of different types/times etc etc and then I thought... why??? It just wasnt worth the hassle for me at all, and I think I was only doing it because 'everyone does'.

I am unlucky lucky in that I have no life anyway so there is little need for me to leave my DS for any length of time. But on the one rare occasion I have wanted to go out I have just gone for a couple of hours.

Sorry for the rant, and please dont think I have any problem with bottles, I really don't. I recently turned down an invitation to a night out that would have ment missing a feed I got the 'thats what pumps are for' comment :( so it's on my mind at the mo and CBC didn't help.

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hmmSleep · 08/02/2011 10:19

Yes, I think the phrasing of her advice was all wrong. It was too much 'this is how it's done' rather than pointing out this is one way of doing it if that's what you want. Must admit Dd1 always refused a bottle, or cup, anything but the breast until 11 months, by which point I was desperate to have a day to myself without worrying about feeding her. I went out for the evening when she was about 9 months old and Dh turned up with her in the car half way through my meal, I had to nip out and feed her in the car before heading back in for my now cold dinner! So from a personal stand point I have introduced a bottle of expressed milk from 6 weeks with Ds and Dd2, just giving them a bottle once a week. I can however see that that's just my choice and probably wouldn't work for everyone even if they did choose to introduce a bottle.

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allsquareknickersnofurcoat · 08/02/2011 14:33

tiktok, why arent you on the telly giving decent advice? :)

TittyBojangles · 08/02/2011 14:38

I agree,... we should start a 'get Tiktok on TV' campaign, think of all the poor non-MNers who are missing out on her advice!

tiktok · 08/02/2011 15:59

No wish to be on telly, and that's the truth!

TittyBojangles · 08/02/2011 16:04

radio?

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