growth spurt at 10weeks??

[vmcd28]

Ds2 is 10w+3d.
For the first 7ish weeks of life he woke twice during the night (between 11pm and 7am) to be fed. This gradually got more frequent, and at 9w we tried giving him formula at bedtime. This worked well till 3 nights ago. For these 3 nights he's been waking at least every 3hrs. Last night was hellish - he woke every 2.5hrs, and was awake and grazing for at least 45mins each time, meaning I got very little sleep.
His formula feed last night was 7, yes 7, ounces, PLUS a breastfeed of 20 mins. He still woke up hungry 3hrs later.

But he has slept for AGES in the morning of these 3 days (Saturday today. Sunday slept 3hrs but already hadn't been fed for 3hrs, so there was 6hrs between feeds. Today 3hrs) - if it was a growth spurt, wouldn't he wake up hungry from the morning sleeps too...?

vmcd - my DS is 10w 3d too, and we are going through the EXACT same thing! Except he never did the 11pm and 7am only. Max sleeping stretch was 5 hours. and its now more like 1.5 to 3 Max

DS is waking up more frequently , and I suspect he's hungry.. also I offered breast in late afternoon on Saturday, he latched and sucked for a while, then started to cry. We suspected that milk flow was too slow for his liking to DH offered some formula in a bottle. He took 8.5 ounces.

So I am trying to express in the morning to offer a bigger feed late afternoon, and also 1 formula feed at night to see whether he manages a longer stretch.

Willing to try anything at this point..

Just to throw my hat into the ring - DS is 10+5 and we have been feeding non stop for the last few days, interrupted nights too. Nice to know I'm not alone though!

Wow, thanks, ladies! You're right, it helps knowing we're not alone!
Would you both be happy to keep updating this thread over the next few days so we can see how each other is doing? Ds2 has slept today from 9am-12pm and from 1250 again, and is still sound asleep. Ugh! He's always more settled in the daytime than during the night.

Can I ask you both, do you have biggish babies? Mine was 9lb 4 at birth, and was 12lb 15 at 9 weeks! He hasn't been weighed since but he's definitely bigger again. He's not particularly chubby, but at birth he was on the 98th percentile for height

Good to know we're not alone in this, lets keep in touch and compare notes! DS was asleep 10:30 - 12, then around 2.30 - 3.00 so not much of a sleeper in the day. Feeding non stop from around 3pm from both breasts, DH gave him 6 ounces of expressed breast milk at around 4.30, that wasn't enough so DS had another 1 ounce or so. And he's now so full that he's fallen asleep {grin]

Will be giving him the rest of the formula in the next feed.

DS was not big, just 7 pounds 3 ounces at birth, but was a bit more than 2 weeks early. He was close to 12 pounds at 8.5 weeks though, so has been catching up.

Hello! Definitely up for some company during the MANY feeds

DS slept from around 9.30-11, then 12-1.30, a few catnaps during the afternoon (Mondays are busy, picking DD up from school, then off to Rainbows, then home again, arggh!) and he's now having his 6pm feed, which would usually sustain him until 10pm, but yesterday he fed for two hours (!) and didbt settle til nearly 10! Here's hoping tonights better...

He also wasn't big, 6,11 at birth and now up to 11,10! A pound of that was gained last week alone though, so his growth spurts obviously going to last a while

Still feeding, an hour later.....!

Hi all, hope you don't mind if I jump in here too. My son is 10 weeks today and is the original "Mr 3-Hours". You can set your watch by when he wakes up - precisely 3 hours from when he last did. He is a real little guts, sucks crazily then tapers off quickly. He was only 6 pounds 9 at birth, but has been packing on the weight and is now 12 pounds 9, so I really feel like he should be able to go for a bit longer. Asked the HV about it today, because I'm on the verge of insanity due to lack of sleep, and she said it is "perfectly normal" at this age, but my older son I am sure was sleeping for around 5 hours regularly at night at this age - i guess they are all different. She did suggest Aptimil Comfort Milk for a night feed - anyone heard of this? My son won't take more than 120 mls (around 4 ounces) in a feed without vomming it all back up so she thought this milk might be easier to cram down his neck and stay down. Not sure, will have to experiment.

Londonista, I think the aptamil comfort milk is technically a milk for babies with "medical needs", eg colic etc. I'm getting some today to see if it helps ds's trapped wind problem.

I am shocked and stunned and delighted to tell you that ds fed at 930pm, then stayed awake till I topped him up with breast milk at 11pm, and he slept from 1140pm til 350am. Gulp. He then had another feed (after needing a complete change of outfit, ugh) and slept from 0440 till 0840. Double gulp. So I'm keeping everything tightly crossed that we've come out the other side of this growth spurt. It lasted 4 full days, which I believe is a wee bit longer than average, but that some can last 10 days. I can handle getting up once each night!

I don't know if it made any difference, but yesterday I did not let ds go longer than 4ish hours between feeds. I woke him twice to ensure he was feeding regularly during the day. Hr is very wide awake and very very happy this morning, so something has worked! If only I knew what! !

Ds2 is 14 weeks now (hi vmcd!) and in the last couple of weeks his sleeping habits have gone awry. Another "every 2 hours" last night which is really getting me down! Am tempted to give formula feed before bed but not sure it would make any difference. He doesn't nap much in day. So frustrating as we had got to 1 feed in the night - he wasn't even like this in the first couple of weeks!! So no advice from me sorry!

Just read your last post, glad is improving!

Hello!! We found the bedtime formula feed to work really well, if you ignore the 3 "off" nights. He just looks so much fuller and satisfied after the formula feed.
At the very least, it allows me to have a large glass of wine after dinner, so I'd recommend it if for that reason alone...

Feeding on and off from 6.30 - 8.30 last night, slept from 8.30 - 1.30 (wow!), woke again at 3.30, 4.30, 5.30..

Problem is when he wakes up in the middle of the night he falls asleep at the breast so an hour later he wakes up again hungry. Might try changing hie nappy to wake him up.

Previous night DH fed DS a bottle of formula at 7 ish, and I went to bed at 8pm, by 10.30 my breasts were superengorged and was so uncomfortable I couldn't get back to sleep till DS woke up again at 1am to feed.

Can u push his bedtime back to 10pm? I.e. gradually make it later each night so that the long sleep is later and fits in with your sleep? Or was last night a one -off.
Are you absolutely sure that he's hungry when he wakes every hour? My ds behaves as if he's hungry but often brings up a lot of wind then settles back down after a short top-up. In other words, maybe your ds really only needs a top-up and is waking again cos of trapped wind? The times he's waking are exactly the same as my ds when the wind was at its worst, which lasted a week or two. It's still not great but now we've worked out what's wrong it's making a big difference

DS had been going down around 6.30pm - 7pm and gradually getting later. May try to push it to 9 or so. I've been going to bed around 8 (!!) otherwise get no sleep at all.

VCMD - do you just burp your DS and put him back down? Or feed then burp? I've tried winding directly after feeding but doesn't usually result in much burping.

Just had DS weighed today, around 14 pounds 5 ounces so definitely growth spurt!

I tried a bottle of formula as 6.30pm feed - he took around 4 1/2 oz, then some bf too. It made no difference whatsoever and he woke at 10pm again. Then 1am, 4am and 6am. Triple yawn. Am so frustrated as I had got used to one feed between 7pm and 7am and could cope with that even though it would take about 1.5 hours in the middle of the night. But this is making me exhausted. Its been pretty much for 10 days now - so would this not be classed as a growth spurt???

Camper, I don't know if thats a growth spurt or not. What is his feeding like during the day? Did he refuse to take more than 4.5 oz of formula? My da takes at least 6oz then also a short bfeed till he's asleep. Maybe he's still needing more? Or maybe formula makes no difference to him, I believe it doesn't help some babies sleep. I'd still persevere if I was in your position, purely to have a bit of a break from the constant bfeeding.

Choclover, during the day I feed him for 10 mins or so, until he's slowed down a bit, then wind him. He usually has one or two big burps, then a couple of small ones if I persevere. I then feed him some more. If he falls asleep I don't wind him again, but if he's awake and seems satisfied then I'll wind him again. We give two squirts of infacol before each feed but I don't know if it makes any difference or not, tbh.
At night, tho, he often falls asleep before I've winded him, so I just put him back in his cot. The thought of deliberately waking him during the night doesn't bear thinking about!
in the early morning, when he wakes up fussing and grunting because of a sore tummy, I leave him unless he starts proper full-on crying. He often settles himself. If not I lift him, lie him on his back on the bed and push up his knees a few times to disperse the wind a bit. Often he just needs hugged a bit after that til he settles again. But other times a short bfeed is all that's needed. HTH... x