Aaarghhh Guardian article

[snoozathon]

here

How does the headline relate to the article, exactly?

Oh it's a nice easy way of getting the 'formula is evil' message across

DP doncha know that anecdotal evidence such as yours holds no weight at all re this topic. You need hard evidence otherwise your experience will be rubbished!

TBB the link you posted shows that both FF and BF babies are likely to become obese as adults. In any case the percentages are tiny and don't really prove anything either way.

Yes snoozathon to go back to your OP, just another way to get the 'formula is evil' message across.

BTW what is enriched formula? I have only ever seen normal formula on the shelves, even hungry baby milk is not enriched with fat AFAIK

funnysinthegarden i have a friend who had premmi twins and she was given a script for some kind of enriched formula as her babies had weight issues.

It strikes me that babies fed enriched formulas like that might be more prone to overfeeding simply because they started out underweight or with falling weight and so their caregivers get into the habit of "feeding them up" iykwim.

God, i know how i get when i don't think DD has taken in enough food/milk for the day, i can only imagine how obsessed i would be if she had weight issues to start with.

TSPF I can understand that. Unfortunately the study doesn't seem to make that distinction, nor does the headline!

Well I was bf and need to lose three stone. Think mum's milk gave me a taste for stinky cheese. Whatever you're fed you're still not going to be obese if you move around enough and eat decent food.

What about not letting children leave the table until they've eaten a few more mouthfuls? When they clearly feel they've had enough. FF and BF is an emotive subject but there are so many things which lead to dysfunctional relationships with food. My neighbour BF her son for 18 months and now gives him whole packets of choc digestives and endless ready meals. Elevenses of 3 pot noodles, etc Why oh why oh why? He's vast frankly and staggers about thinking showing off his 'man boobs' is hilarious. I'd wager 18 months on formula and then a sensible diet would make a big difference. Think there will be a lot of other factors which make the difference and studies like this have a narrow focus. FF might be part of the picture but certainly not the whole one.

yes KittyFoyle so you would think Sadly the bigger picture is often lost in these sorts of discussions!

I don't think the bigger picture has been lost in this discussion though funny - most seem to agree the headline/research are crap & there are other factors.

Agree kitty that being made to clear your plate must be a big contributor to obesity.

sorry Hulla not specifically in this discussion, but in the wider debate about FF

Being made to clear your plate is NOT a contributing factor to obesity if the portion size and what is on the plate is healthy and nutritious.
I have an enormous appetite and am a size 10. Appetite is a good thing. I was according to my mum of the ff babies who would just drink forever (and in about 10 secs flat) if allowed. I also constantly asked for thirds and was normally nicely refused. Yet, am not obese.

I thought about my post afterwards actually pomme and thought the same. I too have a massive appetite (FF too but no idea how I took my bottles) and people often under estimate how much I eat (small portion sizes when I eat at someone's house) because I am a size 8 and 5'2".

I'm sorry for my comment, no offence meant

I agree cleaing a plate full of healthy nutritious food isn't a bad thing but eating once you're full isn't a good habit to get into either.

Anyown remember the info film from the British Heart Foundation which folled a man throug life to his fateful heart attack? One of the early scenes was a mother cajoling 'Come on, one more for the king...' when he was refusing food. I don't think anyone would suggest a big appetite satisfied by a healthy attitude to food is a problem. There are people - surely you've met at least one - who feel they must finish what's on their plate for all sorts of other reasons. If they bother with a plate in the first place.

Sorry for all the typos. It's so hard to type and eat cream cake at the same time.