non stop pooing and digestive distress

[Heathcliffscathy]

ds poos in every nappy and needs changing around 20 times a day!

he is 3 weeks old, gaining weight brilliantly, but this can't be right can it?

he has bad nappy rash (due to pooing all the time!) which i'm trying to treat by keeping him out of nappy for a while twice a day and with metanium cream, don't know if wil work as have only been doing it for 2 days.

he is windy, burps and farts (a lot) and brings his knees up a lot, and pooing seems to really stress him out, he strains terribly and it stops him from sleeping (when the cramp is over he falls back asleep only for it to wake him up a couple of minutes later).

have seen sacro cranial osteopath (twice!) to no avail really.

he is a great baby, but i think his digestive tract is working overtime and i'm wondering if it is about what i'm eating (pretty much everything at the moment)???

any help gratefully received as he does seem to be in severe discomfort a lot of the time.

I had the same issue with all my DC. Its a nightmare.

I stocked up on cheap supermarket nappies and aimed to change them almost half-hourly. Constant watch for poo.

Thick thick layer of metanium. Remove with olive oil and cotton wool.

Timodene from GP applied 3x a day at nappy off time.

All grew out of it by 6 weeks (although at 4 months change in poo seems to have brought it back so battling with it again. Might post my own thread.

Trial and error with foods, try avoiding citrus, tomatoes, berries? I never found cause so eat everything!

thanks...

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DS2 (7 weeks) was exactly the same. He would feed ALL the time, bf with ff top ups and his hunger could never be satisfied. Along with the constant feeding came constant dirty nappies (plus wind, cramps, unsettledness). Saw a gastro paed last week and he has been diagnosed with a milk intollerence and silent reflux.

After a week of hypoallergenic formula, he takes regular, moderate size feeds, settles and sleeps like a dream and does a dirty nappy twice a day.

Maybe you should keep an eye out for the same? If you are bf, I think you will need to cut out all diary (found in more than just the obvious) - you could see if that helps?

p.s. the nappy rash is an indicator of an intollerence too.

ahhh

i think you may have hit it on the head...ds2 exclusive breastfeeding

ds1 was dairy intolerant

ive been craving dairy massively and drinking loads of milk and eating cheese like theres no tomorrow

will cut dairy out now see what happens

My ds was EXACTLY the same. I cut out dairy, fruit etc, etc. In the end he grew out of it around 3 and a half months. Stopped pooing at night then slowed down in the day too. Nappy rash soon cleared up. Now he's the opposite and only poos every couple of days! Oh, and I'm back to eating what I want!

did the cutting out work nlteach

Not really. I'd think it had then he would start pooing constantly again. I gradually began eating dairy again and he didn't seem to get any worse so I figured that wasn't the problem.

Anyway, as I said, at about 3 1/2 months he began to do his poos all at once rather than little bits at a time (sorry, TMI!). Then it gradually slowed down. He used to spend a large portion of the night grunting and groaning with wind but that stopped too.

Obviously your ds might be different and might be allergic. You could try going dairy free. It is quite hard because it is in loads of things, even crisps! Also you need to do it for a couple of weeks so it's out of your system. Good luck!

am dairy free as of last night.

his nappy rash is AWFUL, he's bleeding :(

It will take 10-14 days for all the dairy to clear your system, so don't give up, he sounds exactly like DD2, and stopping the dairy was all I needed to do to make her better. Hang in there, keep him nappyless wash him in plain water with no baby bath, don't use baby wipes, just cotton wool and put olive oil on his bum to help it heal.

Oh, and cloth nappies, disposables irritate sensitive skin.

addictedtofrazzles it's not too late for you to cut dairy out of your diet and go back to bf.

thanks greenmonkies

feels healthier cutting dairy out tbh

I lost a chunk of weight when I dropped dairy, never realised how much cheese I'd been eating until I couldn't eat it!!

LOTS of Sudocream after every change to create a barrier.

Try the dairy thing, but I bet it is just his little innards learning how to work properly.

bleeding sore horrible nappy rash.

have been trawling all the old threads about nappy rash and have been using salt water to clean and have just had his bum out in the air for an hour, then painted it with egg white to try to form a barrier.

am at wits end...if it gets any worse will be a&e

luckily have doctors appt first thing tomorrow

he does seem to be pooing a tiny bit less...hopefully that will help

feel awful that it has got this bad tbh.

Sophable - i have been there.... with each DC I should add. If you are looking for natural remedies can also try probotic yoghurt applied to bottom, but try following this religiously for 3 days (you can't leave the house unless going straight to a friends, because if you don't check every 10 mins you'll miss a poo and it will be worse again....

1. constant vigilance - check nappy every 10 mins.

1. as much nappy off time as possible, wipe up with old towel

1. timodene from GP at nappy off time, if you do more than 3 x a day try bepanthen

1. when nappy is on thick thick layer of metantium. IME sudocrem does not form the same sort of barrier as a thick layer of metanium.

1. remove metanium with olive oil and cotton wool.

1. in the night check the nappy at the start and end of each feed

1. during the nappy on time have nappy on loosely and if you do want to use vest use next size up. don't put any more clothes on.

god minwl....got timodene from gp today, she didn't say how often.

so am assuming tiniest bit up to 3 x a day.

will try your regime tomorrow and next day...need to do something

I've slathered his bum in waitrose bottom butter to see if that protects it against the constant stream of poo...

thanks for the advice

My DS2 (who is now 18) had the most awful nappy rash. Bleeding, really sore.

MIL thought it was me not changing him enough and told people so.

Changed him (on the advice of a friend of my mum's) to terry nappies (no fancy ones in those days lol) and it cleared quickly. I used vinegar instead of fabric conditioner.

DD1 would not feed from me at all, loads of dirty nappies - 10 or 12 every day, in pain, crying all the time. She was eventually diagnosed with multiple food intolerances and put on special milk so try cutting out the dairy and stuff.

Most of all- good luck

good luck. we found nothing other than metanium lasted for long enough to protect bum again constant poo. bepanthen ok if he was awake and i could constantly check but worried about him sleeping. imagine the waitrose stuff is similar.

tried terry nappies with dd, made it worse because they were hotter - a loose disposable nappy was better as allowed air circulation more, hence bigger sized vest.

yes timodene 3x a day, always used it at nappy off time to make sure properly absorped and wiped all metanium off properly each time. don't use thick layer, but not tiniest amount either.

make sure at night super thick layer of metanium. reapply when you change nappy in night (and check at start and end of each feed)

i have had same with each dc (constant pooing and hence bad nappy rash), dd now 6 and ds1 now 4 neither have any allergies or intolerances to food or otherwise, although ds1 has mild eczema.

It is also possible, seeing as he's windy etc that you have an over active letdown...

www.llli.org/llleaderweb/LV/LVSepOct95p71.html

Worth a try!

I have a massively strong let down (the milk sprays across the room)!

Thanks so much for link, have been doing both but not every time, will really be disciplined about it from now on...really it could be what is going on.

Interesting - I have quite a strong let down, and if baby comes off during let down milk sprays across room.

With DS1 he got used to the fast let-down and refused to feed when it was slower. Ended up feeding round the clock (hourly), he'd get his let down milk and then refuse to take any more. I'd had enough by 4 months as couldn't cope with his feedly hourly in the night.

DD and (so far) DS2 seem more flexible - DS2 does huge burps, but will feed when fast and also when slower.