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Come and chat to PEN Faulkner Award winner and bestselling author Karen Joy Fowler about WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES, and her previous books, Tue 29 July, 9-10pm

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TillyBookClub · 16/06/2014 12:17

There are many unusual families, but few are quite as unusual as Rosemary's. Rosemary is the bright, quirky and very funny narrator of Karen Joy Fowler's award winning novel WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES. Rosemary used to have a sister and a brother, but both have disappeared. And because this is such an extraordinary family, with an extremely surprising story, it is better that Rosemary tells you herself how it all happened.

Please keep your spoiler alert antennae well-tuned, and try and discuss the book without giving the game away...

You can find out more at our book of the month page, and at Karen's website which includes an excerpt and stunning reviews from her legions of fans, from Alice Sebold to Barbara Kingsolver.

Serpent's Tail have 50 copies to give to Mumsnetters: to claim your free copy, please fill in your details on the book of the month page. If you're not lucky enough to bag one of those, you can always get your paperback or Kindle version here.

We are delighted that Karen will be joining us to discuss WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES, her previous novels and her writing life on Tuesday 29 July, 9-10pm. So please feel free to (carefully) discuss the book here throughout the month, pop up any advance questions and we will see you all here, Tue 29 July.

Come and chat to PEN Faulkner Award winner and bestselling author Karen Joy Fowler about WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES, and her previous books, Tue 29 July, 9-10pm
Come and chat to PEN Faulkner Award winner and bestselling author Karen Joy Fowler about WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES, and her previous books, Tue 29 July, 9-10pm
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ArriettyC · 20/07/2014 16:14

Received this book from Mumsnet, thanks, and am about half way through. Loving it so far. Very well written and I really like the main character which helps. Hopefully I will finish it in time to post again!

TillyBookClub · 22/07/2014 10:31

Thanks to all for their posts so far; if you can't make the live chat or just want to be first in the queue, it is time to put any advance questions up here and I will send on to Karen at the end of the week.

Looking forward to seeing everyone here next Tuesday 9-10pm when you can chat to Karen live and ask her about this book and her other novels, her writing life, anything you like...

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hyperhops · 25/07/2014 20:44

just finished this and loved it.
Noticed it's just been long listed for this years Man Booker Prize. Smile

TillyBookClub · 27/07/2014 20:30

A quick reminder to anyone wanting to post an advance question that we'll be sending them on to Karen tomorrow. Otherwise do keep your q's ready for the live chat on Tuesday, 9-10pm.

Looking forward to the discussion very much indeed; so much to get your teeth into with this one...

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ladydepp · 28/07/2014 08:26

I won a copy of this book, thank you. It's a fabulous book and very derserving of a Booker nomination. It moved me to tears quite a few times. I will definitely be recommending it!

I do agree with another poster in that I loved the beginning, loved the end but got a bit lost and muddled in the middle.

I think the characters are drawn beautifully, very sympathetic for the reader but also very human and real. Rosemary's family is so realistic, I can picture them in my mind and really enjoyed getting to know them all.

I had no idea that Fern wasn't a little girl until it was revealed. When I went back I could see that there were clues but I didn't pick up on them! My question for the author is: Was this an important part of the writing of the book for you, that Fern was established as an integral part of the family before she was revealed to be non-human? Or did you expect readers to pick up on it before it was actually spelled out?

sallyst123 · 28/07/2014 17:19

has been umming & ahhing over whether to get this book from all the positive feedback on here will be downloading it later
thanks mumsnetters

LauraChant · 28/07/2014 22:03

I have coincidentally just finished this book although didn't know it was going to be the subject of a webchat. I was blindsided by the reveal, and couldn't put it down after that. I read it on Kindle so had no clues from cover or blurb.

My question would have been along the lines of ladydepp's - did you really think readers would guess about Fern, as I think Rosemary suggests, saying something like "you probably already guessed", and if not, what inferences did you think readers would draw about Fern? I did wonder why she couldn't go to nursery and more worryingly why neither grandmother wanted to give her her name but was so caught up in the story - I have two young children so have to read quickly - that I didn't think about it too much.

However since that question has kind of already been asked is it cheating to asky something else? There are a lot of references to Star Wars in the book which I noticed as my boys are obsessed with the franchise. Is there a reason for this, is there a way in which you feel Star Wars feeds into the theme of the book, or do you just like it?!

LauraChant · 28/07/2014 22:05

Ask. Not asky. Sorry. Phone.

KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 04:40

@TillyBookClub

A quick reminder to anyone wanting to post an advance question that we'll be sending them on to Karen tomorrow. Otherwise do keep your q's ready for the live chat on Tuesday, 9-10pm.

Looking forward to the discussion very much indeed; so much to get your teeth into with this one...

Testing, testing. Hello, Tilly!

AnnDaloozier · 29/07/2014 04:56

I'm halfway in. Hardly gripped

khuliloach · 29/07/2014 13:06

I really enjoyed this book, and strangely now looking back think I enjoyed it more than I thought at the time. I keep thinking about the story and Fern.

I would like to ask Karen how she came up with the idea for the story, does she feel differently about chimpanzees since researching the book and has she started on her next novel.

Belo · 29/07/2014 13:51

Thank you mumsnet for my copy of the book. I have just finished it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to join the web chat this evening so I would like to post my questions to Karen in advance.

  1. The book started in the middle. Did you know what the beginning and ends were when you started writing it? I.e. did you write it chronologically and then change the order or was this mixed up order always your intention? I thought chosen order is very clever. It was a real shock to discover there was a chimpanzee. I couldn't work out why Fern was not with the family but not dead.
  1. I couldn't quite work out what Madam Lefarge's role in the story is. To me she is just a comic interlude. Sorry, I've probably missed something crucial here. What is she supposed to signify?
maryburrows · 29/07/2014 15:17

This would have been better if I hadn't read the 5 pages of reviews in the beginning of the copy you kindly sent me before I started to read the story. Dear publisher try not to give plot spoilers- I learnt rather more than I wanted to unfortunately. That aside I still managed to enjoy the characterisation- how everyone reacts to the situation and how the family becomes so dysfunctional. It is a story to be savoured- alternately funny and poignant- reach for a dictionary too there are words to stretch your vocabulary included. Dear author please tell me how you thought of writing so original a plot and why you started writing in the first place. Thank you Karen and Mumsnet for one of my favouritebooks of the year.

Uzma01 · 29/07/2014 16:07

I've found it difficult to get into this book, it's not been a major page-turner for me I'm afraid. That said the plot was different and I could empathise alot with Rosemary. The dysfunction of the family is also something else that I thought was interesting and the interplay between Rosemary and the other characters was funny at times and a bit bizarre at other times.

The background information on some other families that had 'adopted' chimps was an intriguing addition. My question is what was the author's reason behind that?

PittTheYounger · 29/07/2014 19:15

I gave up.

Its me, I know

KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 20:39

@KarenJoyFowler

[quote TillyBookClub] A quick reminder to anyone wanting to post an advance question that we'll be sending them on to Karen tomorrow. Otherwise do keep your q's ready for the live chat on Tuesday, 9-10pm.

Looking forward to the discussion very much indeed; so much to get your teeth into with this one...

Testing, testing. Hello, Tilly![/quote]

Checking to see if I'm still logged in.

TillyBookClub · 29/07/2014 20:59

Evening everyone

Many thanks to those who have already posted messages and reviews - hope that you are all able to be here tonight and looking forward to hearing from many more of you over the next hour.

I’m thrilled to introduce our guest tonight, Karen Joy Fowler, author of the highly acclaimed WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES and the global bestseller THE JANE AUSTEN BOOKCLUB, amongst other books.

Karen, thank you very, very much indeed for giving us your time tonight. And congratulations on your recent Man Booker Prize longlisting and your PEN Faulkner Award win. We've already got a fair few questions to get through so I'll just add our standard Mumsnet ones and then off we go...???

What childhood book most inspired you?

What would be the first piece of advice you would give to anyone attempting to write fiction???

Over to you...

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KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 21:02

Thank you! It’s a pleasure to be here. It’s a good thing we’re not skyping as I spent the morning (and I’m in California so it’s just past morning here) with my grandsons and am currently covered in paints and bits of chewed apple and cracker. I am quite the lovely sight. So very pleased that this is a come-as-you-are party.

@KarenJoyFowler

[quote KarenJoyFowler] [quote TillyBookClub] A quick reminder to anyone wanting to post an advance question that we'll be sending them on to Karen tomorrow. Otherwise do keep your q's ready for the live chat on Tuesday, 9-10pm.

Looking forward to the discussion very much indeed; so much to get your teeth into with this one...

Testing, testing. Hello, Tilly![/quote]

Checking to see if I'm still logged in.[/quote]

KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 21:03

What childhood book most inspired you?

This is a hard question as I read voraciously as a child and before that, I was voraciously read to. I don’t remember ever disliking a book until I was all grown-up. (Assuming I am all grown-up.) Lots of the books I encountered had animal characters – Charlotte’s Web. The Wind in the Willows, Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose, and Winnie the Pooh, later Big Red and Son of Big Red, both dog books. I was wild about dogs. Lots of the books had some fantastical element – Mary Poppins and Half Magic and The Trouble with Jenny’s Ear about a little girl who could hear people’s thoughts. The Borrowers and Castaways in Lilliput.
For a long time my favorite book was The Green Poodles by Charlotte Baker. I’m not sure why I was so attracted to this book, but it did combine an English orphan who goes to live with her Texan cousins, an old painting with a mystery attached, and a general level of suspense with lots of practical information about dog shows and how and why poodles have the different cuts they have and how to clip a puppy’s tail. Every once in a while I run across someone who was also obsessed with this book. Not often, but sometimes.
But the book that inspired me the most came later, in my early teens and was inarguably TH White’s The Once and Future King. This book launched me on an Arthurian Quest from which I have never come home. Among the many many lessons it contained was that a book could be both funny and sad. No humor without sorrow; no beauty without ugliness; no magic without science; no past without future.

@TillyBookClub

Evening everyone

Many thanks to those who have already posted messages and reviews - hope that you are all able to be here tonight and looking forward to hearing from many more of you over the next hour.

I?m thrilled to introduce our guest tonight, Karen Joy Fowler, author of the highly acclaimed WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES and the global bestseller THE JANE AUSTEN BOOKCLUB, amongst other books.

Karen, thank you very, very much indeed for giving us your time tonight. And congratulations on your recent Man Booker Prize longlisting and your PEN Faulkner Award win. We've already got a fair few questions to get through so I'll just add our standard Mumsnet ones and then off we go...???

What childhood book most inspired you?

What would be the first piece of advice you would give to anyone attempting to write fiction???

Over to you...

KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 21:04

What would be the first piece of advice you would give to anyone attempting to write fiction???

Oh, I have lots of advice! But the first piece might be this: you have to love doing it. It’s likely to be much more work than you thought and much less money than you hoped; it will likely take you longer and you have to get used to people telling you they didn’t like it very much even after all that work, so if you don’t really love doing it, there is little point. I do love doing it, so I think it’s about the best way to spend your time. Imaginary people, especially the ones you’ve made up, are more tractable than real people – there is much to be said in favor of spending your time with them.

@KarenJoyFowler

What childhood book most inspired you?

This is a hard question as I read voraciously as a child and before that, I was voraciously read to. I don?t remember ever disliking a book until I was all grown-up. (Assuming I am all grown-up.) Lots of the books I encountered had animal characters ? Charlotte?s Web. The Wind in the Willows, Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose, and Winnie the Pooh, later Big Red and Son of Big Red, both dog books. I was wild about dogs. Lots of the books had some fantastical element ? Mary Poppins and Half Magic and The Trouble with Jenny?s Ear about a little girl who could hear people?s thoughts. The Borrowers and Castaways in Lilliput.
For a long time my favorite book was The Green Poodles by Charlotte Baker. I?m not sure why I was so attracted to this book, but it did combine an English orphan who goes to live with her Texan cousins, an old painting with a mystery attached, and a general level of suspense with lots of practical information about dog shows and how and why poodles have the different cuts they have and how to clip a puppy?s tail. Every once in a while I run across someone who was also obsessed with this book. Not often, but sometimes.
But the book that inspired me the most came later, in my early teens and was inarguably TH White?s The Once and Future King. This book launched me on an Arthurian Quest from which I have never come home. Among the many many lessons it contained was that a book could be both funny and sad. No humor without sorrow; no beauty without ugliness; no magic without science; no past without future.

[quote TillyBookClub]
Evening everyone

Many thanks to those who have already posted messages and reviews - hope that you are all able to be here tonight and looking forward to hearing from many more of you over the next hour.

I?m thrilled to introduce our guest tonight, Karen Joy Fowler, author of the highly acclaimed WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES and the global bestseller THE JANE AUSTEN BOOKCLUB, amongst other books.

Karen, thank you very, very much indeed for giving us your time tonight. And congratulations on your recent Man Booker Prize longlisting and your PEN Faulkner Award win. We've already got a fair few questions to get through so I'll just add our standard Mumsnet ones and then off we go...???

What childhood book most inspired you?

What would be the first piece of advice you would give to anyone attempting to write fiction???

Over to you...

[/quote]
KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 21:04

pausing here to doublecheck with Tilly that I am managing the quote feature correctly?

@KarenJoyFowler

What would be the first piece of advice you would give to anyone attempting to write fiction???

Oh, I have lots of advice! But the first piece might be this: you have to love doing it. It?s likely to be much more work than you thought and much less money than you hoped; it will likely take you longer and you have to get used to people telling you they didn?t like it very much even after all that work, so if you don?t really love doing it, there is little point. I do love doing it, so I think it?s about the best way to spend your time. Imaginary people, especially the ones you?ve made up, are more tractable than real people ? there is much to be said in favor of spending your time with them.

[quote KarenJoyFowler]
What childhood book most inspired you?

This is a hard question as I read voraciously as a child and before that, I was voraciously read to. I don?t remember ever disliking a book until I was all grown-up. (Assuming I am all grown-up.) Lots of the books I encountered had animal characters ? Charlotte?s Web. The Wind in the Willows, Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose, and Winnie the Pooh, later Big Red and Son of Big Red, both dog books. I was wild about dogs. Lots of the books had some fantastical element ? Mary Poppins and Half Magic and The Trouble with Jenny?s Ear about a little girl who could hear people?s thoughts. The Borrowers and Castaways in Lilliput.
For a long time my favorite book was The Green Poodles by Charlotte Baker. I?m not sure why I was so attracted to this book, but it did combine an English orphan who goes to live with her Texan cousins, an old painting with a mystery attached, and a general level of suspense with lots of practical information about dog shows and how and why poodles have the different cuts they have and how to clip a puppy?s tail. Every once in a while I run across someone who was also obsessed with this book. Not often, but sometimes.
But the book that inspired me the most came later, in my early teens and was inarguably TH White?s The Once and Future King. This book launched me on an Arthurian Quest from which I have never come home. Among the many many lessons it contained was that a book could be both funny and sad. No humor without sorrow; no beauty without ugliness; no magic without science; no past without future.

[quote TillyBookClub]
Evening everyone

Many thanks to those who have already posted messages and reviews - hope that you are all able to be here tonight and looking forward to hearing from many more of you over the next hour.

I?m thrilled to introduce our guest tonight, Karen Joy Fowler, author of the highly acclaimed WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY BESIDE OURSELVES and the global bestseller THE JANE AUSTEN BOOKCLUB, amongst other books.

Karen, thank you very, very much indeed for giving us your time tonight. And congratulations on your recent Man Booker Prize longlisting and your PEN Faulkner Award win. We've already got a fair few questions to get through so I'll just add our standard Mumsnet ones and then off we go...???

What childhood book most inspired you?

What would be the first piece of advice you would give to anyone attempting to write fiction???

Over to you...

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TillyBookClub · 29/07/2014 21:08

Yes, all good! But now that you're onto other questions, you'll need to press the Quote button on each individual message from other posters above. And then it'll just put the one original message in your reply.

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KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 21:08

@TickTock123

This book sounds like it was written about me? Oddball and different to any other living being I would like to read this on holidays and find out the hype is as true,as the book seems to be living it up at the moment Please make me your happy smiley winner

I expect we are all oddballs at heart. Aren't we?

KarenJoyFowler · 29/07/2014 21:09

@TickTock123

This book sounds like it was written about me? Oddball and different to any other living being I would like to read this on holidays and find out the hype is as true,as the book seems to be living it up at the moment Please make me your happy smiley winner

I expect we are all oddballs at heart.

TillyBookClub · 29/07/2014 21:11

And I'd love to nip another quick question in:

You are on the Booker long list in the first year it has allowed Americans on the list - do you tend to read equal amounts of UK and American fiction? And who are your favorite contemporary authors at the moment?

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