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Leweston school abrupt closure

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kashcai · Yesterday 18:23

Really sad to see this - another very good school that was just about affordable to lots of local families gone by the wayside. Seems to have come as a blindsiding shock to parents who found out today. Really sad for all the kids who won’t be returning to their classmates and community after half term. Clayesmore is miles away and Leweston was mostly a day school I believe. Our child was so keen to be heading there next year. Hope all affected manage to find places in time for Monday at their preferred back up options. Thinking of all the staff too.
https://www.leweston.co.uk/

Leweston School

The world your child is moving into cannot be predicted. At Leweston, we build the person who can meet it — curious, resilient, and entirely themselves. Co-educational, Catholic, boarding and day. Prep, Senior and Sixth Form, Sherborne, Dorset.

https://www.leweston.co.uk/

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ThisBrickOrca · Today 06:39

Waveifyouknowme · Yesterday 21:42

From what I've read Claymore is part of the same group - so why are the teachers not getting paid?

I would agree about Bryanston being a better option, but it is quite a distance

Clayesmore is not part of the same group, the group that owns Clayesmore (and Sunninghill) are ILG and have offered support to all parents and are in no way linked to the group that own Leweston, who are Concept Education.

MrPickles73 · Today 06:49

We have smaller schools near us.. 🫪

Beenaroundabit · Today 06:50

Perhaps Sherborne maybe able to organise a daily coach to help take the pupils and staff from the Leweston school area to their new school

Eh? Cause all the old staff automatically get jobs at the next nearest school, and the students simply relocate to the same schools, and the old school will lay on a coach (at a grand a day to hire) so fee paying families don't have to put themselves out to get the kids to schools they've had to organise with a few days' notice...?

That's not how ANY of this works at all!

Waveifyouknowme · Today 06:54

TheVividMentor · Yesterday 22:02

No Clayesmore is part of ILG which is a different trust-they have (not all too altruistically) stepped in to offer spaces in their schools in the hope their voids are filled.
I wouldn’t say it was a great alternative given how Clayesmore has changed irrevocably since it was taken over recently.

I’d say parents who chose Leweston did so to avoid Sherborne vibes. Bryanston or Millfield would be a better fit but the fees have some significant rises vs Leweston. I gather Lew had many day pupils so distance will be a factor.

Thanks. I did think it was strange - but it makes sense that it is in Clayesmore's interest to accept them.

The discount Sherborne is offering if the pp is correct is massive- how will that go down with those already paying fees at Sherborne?

twistytwin · Today 08:58

Waveifyouknowme · Today 06:54

Thanks. I did think it was strange - but it makes sense that it is in Clayesmore's interest to accept them.

The discount Sherborne is offering if the pp is correct is massive- how will that go down with those already paying fees at Sherborne?

Sherborne Girls has closed a boarding house so numbers must be falling, and think someone mentioned they have at the boys’ school too. A bum on a seat at even a big discount is better than no bum on the seat. That’s happening everywhere.

ArtHistory · Today 09:44

Waveifyouknowme · Yesterday 21:42

From what I've read Claymore is part of the same group - so why are the teachers not getting paid?

I would agree about Bryanston being a better option, but it is quite a distance

The letter does read like that, but they're part of separate groups. Although the private equity/school group market is so fishy, it would not surprise me if there were some links.

ArtHistory · Today 09:58

If you look at the Leweston website, they've invested a lot in capital projects over the last 10 years (swimming pool, riding centre, music centre, new hall) and they'd taken on a lot of debt to do so - secured against the land (which is owned by a separate trust). Interestingly, one of the trustees of the trust was the owner of Concept Education, which is owned by a couple of people in sussex.

It stinks of financial mismanagement - hopefully the directors will be struck off.

Besidemyselfwithworry · Today 10:05

ThatZingyMintCat · Yesterday 18:58

I am sure that the Sherborne schools will have space available, but there will be a reason why parents chose Leweston instead of them in the first place.

Apparently the group owning Leweston was looking for investment to cover cash flow and run out of time. It does beg the question why they started the academic year if the situation was that precarious in the first place.

I agree
they couldn’t have been in a brilliant position at the end of June/July when they broke up for summer never mind Sept and now Oct only having been back 6-7 weeks. If I had kids there I’d be really annoyed and moving at this stage is really disruptive, if there is any places left at other alternatives.
Afew private schools have closed over the past couple of years near Nottingham/Leicester - one of the mums from one of my kids classes was a teacher at one and she said that numbers were down especially for international students with the whole EU/brexit situation but also for UK students a lot of people who previously may have afforded to pay school fees can’t because of the COLC and now, certainly in our area - the grammar schools are becoming a really popular option with places becoming very competitive.

AllJoyAndNoFun · Today 10:12

Besidemyselfwithworry · Today 10:05

I agree
they couldn’t have been in a brilliant position at the end of June/July when they broke up for summer never mind Sept and now Oct only having been back 6-7 weeks. If I had kids there I’d be really annoyed and moving at this stage is really disruptive, if there is any places left at other alternatives.
Afew private schools have closed over the past couple of years near Nottingham/Leicester - one of the mums from one of my kids classes was a teacher at one and she said that numbers were down especially for international students with the whole EU/brexit situation but also for UK students a lot of people who previously may have afforded to pay school fees can’t because of the COLC and now, certainly in our area - the grammar schools are becoming a really popular option with places becoming very competitive.

the international thing is tricky- most international students in UK boarding schools are not EU nationals so I'm not sure how much Brexit's affected anything but there are definitely a few headwinds - I was living in HK when covid hit and that definitely gave a lot of parents pause on whether boarding overseas was a good idea (both expat parents and local parents who would send dc to uk for years 9-13) because with borders closing the whole thing became a logistical nightmare. There's also the fact that full boarding is dying out in the UK so parents without weekend options for DC are more reticent to send them to rattle around an empty school at weekends. Finally there are the overseas franchises whereby the UK schools that set these places up are kind of cannibalising the "mothership". There are also some political headwinds for international students from some countries whereby sending your DC overseas for school/Uni is somewhat frowned upon and might impact your own career/ opportunities.

Cyclingforcake · Today 10:13

I think Leweston has been on the edge since the 80s. It positioned itself as the day/weekly boarding alternative to Sherborne Girls which worked for a bit. Then brought the junior school on site. Then started accepting boys. It all smacks of a school that is raising cash any way it can. The other thing about the local area is that the state schools in Sherborne and nearby Dorchester are really strong so mainly of the people wanting a day school who previously would have gone private are now thinking it’s not worth it.

Besidemyselfwithworry · Today 10:19

AllJoyAndNoFun · Today 10:12

the international thing is tricky- most international students in UK boarding schools are not EU nationals so I'm not sure how much Brexit's affected anything but there are definitely a few headwinds - I was living in HK when covid hit and that definitely gave a lot of parents pause on whether boarding overseas was a good idea (both expat parents and local parents who would send dc to uk for years 9-13) because with borders closing the whole thing became a logistical nightmare. There's also the fact that full boarding is dying out in the UK so parents without weekend options for DC are more reticent to send them to rattle around an empty school at weekends. Finally there are the overseas franchises whereby the UK schools that set these places up are kind of cannibalising the "mothership". There are also some political headwinds for international students from some countries whereby sending your DC overseas for school/Uni is somewhat frowned upon and might impact your own career/ opportunities.

The school my friend taught at had a lot of Chinese students - boarding from age 11, and she was saying that a lot of these students stopped coming and as they paid higher fees, and this somewhat buffered the costs for everyone else which is a really good point - same for university students.

Either way, it is a massive shame for the kids involved, and the staff and really irresponsible of the directors to have allowed this to happen. Trying to get a school place sorted in a week or so is mission impossible.

AllJoyAndNoFun · Today 10:22

@Besidemyselfwithworry do you mean because they were boarders they paid higher fees than day students? I haven't heard of schools differentiating between international and domestic students in respect of boarding or day fees other than to cover costs that are specific to internationals.

ElanaohElana · Today 10:27

Dollymylove · Yesterday 22:46

Thanks to our previous leader for that act of pure spite. I would take a wild guess that HIS children dont attend a state school 😡

I feel very sorry for anyone whose kids are impacted negatively but to be fair Andy Burnham’s kids all went to a state comprehensive school.

somekindofdoughnut · Today 10:33

Agreed, @Cyclingforcake, I wouldn't have put a child in Leweston in recent years, this doesn't feel unexpected to me. Gryphon and TH are excellent state schools, although they can't offer 'small school' vibes. What's Kings Bruton like these days? People I know who went there in the past wouldn't recommend it but times change I suppose.

Besidemyselfwithworry · Today 10:43

AllJoyAndNoFun · Today 10:22

@Besidemyselfwithworry do you mean because they were boarders they paid higher fees than day students? I haven't heard of schools differentiating between international and domestic students in respect of boarding or day fees other than to cover costs that are specific to internationals.

No I think she meant as they were on a visa the fees for international students were higher but they all seemed to board or there is quite afew people who offer to be “host families” too and some of them lived with families.

Sandpapertongue · Today 11:03

Of the schools discussed here Canford is the strongest financially by a decent way. Someone said about King's College. Yes it's strong financially but a 20% drop in numbers over the last 5 years is very worrying

Sherborne fine financially and only a 10% drop over 5 years. A good option especially if looking for not very academically selective, or strong music.

Bryanston a good bet as close to Leweston and financially fine, and only 2.2% down in pupil numbers over 5 years

I think most Lewston pupils would be looking for a day place.

If they were happy to board then Canford the best best from a 'solid as a rock' point of view (but it's a good hour away)

I screenshotted this data from www.chapelandtuck.co.uk happy to screen shot any other schools if anyone needs.

EDITED to add - you need to click the image to see all the data

Leweston school abrupt closure
Sandpapertongue · Today 11:07

also - writing was on the wall for Leweston. They only had 1 month reserves left :)

So sad but also surely grossly negligent to have opened the doors in September?

Any parents who are now looking for new schools just make sure that wherever you go is really rock solid

EDITED to add - you need to click the image to see all the data

Leweston school abrupt closure
NoHangoversToday · Today 11:14

ElanaohElana · Today 10:27

I feel very sorry for anyone whose kids are impacted negatively but to be fair Andy Burnham’s kids all went to a state comprehensive school.

Andy Burnham is not our previous leader.

KS had a range of very good state schools to choose from thanks to being in London in a good catchment area- such privilege that many in rural areas are not able to be in. May we all have been so lucky.

ThatZingyMintCat · Today 11:16

Sandpapertongue · Today 11:03

Of the schools discussed here Canford is the strongest financially by a decent way. Someone said about King's College. Yes it's strong financially but a 20% drop in numbers over the last 5 years is very worrying

Sherborne fine financially and only a 10% drop over 5 years. A good option especially if looking for not very academically selective, or strong music.

Bryanston a good bet as close to Leweston and financially fine, and only 2.2% down in pupil numbers over 5 years

I think most Lewston pupils would be looking for a day place.

If they were happy to board then Canford the best best from a 'solid as a rock' point of view (but it's a good hour away)

I screenshotted this data from www.chapelandtuck.co.uk happy to screen shot any other schools if anyone needs.

EDITED to add - you need to click the image to see all the data

Edited

These pupil numbers are slightly misleading and out of date. The number for Bryanston includes their prep.

Sherborne has over 1200 pupils now if you acknowledge the merger combining two preps and the boys/girls school.

Canford certainly in the strongest financial position.

nothingcangowrongnow · Today 11:17

I’d like to get this data @sandpapertonguebut for a school in a different area. Do I have to pay that website? I’d rather not say the name of the school online as it’s outing

Sandpapertongue · Today 11:19

@nothingcangowrongnow you can either pay or you get free access for a month if you fill in the quick survey
No account/card details/password needed for that option

www.chapelandtuck.co.uk/login?mode=start&callbackUrl=/survey

cl1996 · Today 11:24

somekindofdoughnut · Today 10:33

Agreed, @Cyclingforcake, I wouldn't have put a child in Leweston in recent years, this doesn't feel unexpected to me. Gryphon and TH are excellent state schools, although they can't offer 'small school' vibes. What's Kings Bruton like these days? People I know who went there in the past wouldn't recommend it but times change I suppose.

I don’t know loads about KB themselves, but I do know that many Hazelgrove (their prep school) pupils do not continue on to KB, and instead go to other senior schools. Maybe that says something? I don’t really know.

Waveifyouknowme · Today 11:25

But Canford is a very different school.

Sandpapertongue · Today 11:28

Yes, Canford very different vibe to Leweston. Bryanstone or Sherborne better fit, and both seem financially stable enough. Just such a hugely sad situation, not just for the pupils but also the poor staff

cl1996 · Today 11:36

@Sandpapertongue

Those figures aren’t 100% accurate and are slightly outdated. I know it’s not a huge difference but there are currently 425 pupils enrolled in the Senior school at King’s currently, not 389. 425 in a 490 capacity doesn’t seem that bad… This does not include the prep.

Isn’t Canford selective? So anyone looking with a child not so academic/sporty probably wouldn’t consider.