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Good private schools for mixed/black DC

47 replies

Treesaa · 24/04/2025 18:24

Hi
Has anyone got advice on good private schools that does not discriminate against black children? Where they can make friends and not be ostracised? Anywhere in the country please, we do not mind moving :)

Also, i have looked at Oxford GDST. Anyone with experience about this school please?

Thanks in advance.

OP posts:
JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 25/04/2025 07:13

Borrowandmiss · 25/04/2025 06:56

Many London schools are far more ethnically mixed in terms of pupil intake.
Queen Elizabeth, Barnet is a state grammar school for example ( Jeremy Corbyn’s sons went there)
From Google
’Queen Elizabeth's School in Barnet is known for its diverse student population, with a high percentage of pupils from Black, Asian, and Minority Ethnic (BAME) backgrounds. Specifically, the school's pupil population is around 92% BAME, and a significant portion, around 45%, are advanced bilingual learners. The school also has a strong academic record, regularly topping league tables for A-level and GCSE results.’

This school is predominantly Asian rather than mixed/Black - I'm not sure that is what the OP is after.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 25/04/2025 07:15

ChevronShoes · 25/04/2025 06:20

Can I ask why you think this might be a problem? Has your child been ostracised before in a private school or have you?

Our kids have been through private schools all with diverse year groups. No one is given any preferential or discriminatory treatment. Most schools have an instant disciplinary policy for any form of discrimination.

Kids are far more likely to ostracise based on personality and behaviour than race. the kids who get ostracised at our schools are the ones who are mean (girls) or the ones who are know it alls (boys). The ones with anger issues are normally unpopular too as the kids don’t like not knowing when someone is going to lash out at them. I’ve never heard of ethnicity being even considered.

The private schools are far more diverse than state schools and far more strict on behaviour so I hope that reassures you.

Edited

Are you Black?

ArghhWhatNext · 25/04/2025 07:19

Bradford Grammar. Extremely diverse and extremely inclusive in my experience. And all-round excellent.

HeatonGrov · 25/04/2025 07:35

ArghhWhatNext · 25/04/2025 07:19

Bradford Grammar. Extremely diverse and extremely inclusive in my experience. And all-round excellent.

Bradford Grammar has a lot of children of Mirpuri Pakistani heritage. And a lot of white British/Irish heritage. I would not call it diverse. It is bi cultural. Hardly any students of Afro Caribbean or West African heritage. It reflects the area in which it is situated.

WildBactrian · 25/04/2025 07:36

Simply googling the percentage of 'BAME' pupils in a particular school doesn't tell you anything about the experiences of black children there, and if you're not black you will have no idea of whether or not the black kids face discrimination. Coming onto black mumsnetters to talk about white working class boys is not at all helpful to the OP.

Treesaa · 25/04/2025 07:39

@SummerDaysOnTheWay
Sorry just seen an error I made, was trying to say thank you to you for replying to @ChevronShoes as I am not quite in a good frame of mind to start going back and forth with that poster.

To make it clear @ChevronShoes I definitely do not thank you for your post. Also I am only asking for suggestions for good schools, please do not come on here to start an argument and name calling.

OP posts:
Ddakji · 25/04/2025 07:43

This thread highlights why “BAME” is such a nonsense. As others have said, in my experience of having a child at a London private school and going to one myself, the majority of ethnic monitory children at private schools are Asian. And in terms of numbers that’s not surprising, as Asian (Indian subcontinent) people outnumber black people in the UK by about 3 to 1.

I live in a part of London with a much bigger black than Asian population, and yet there were more Asian than black kids at her private school.

beAsensible1 · 25/04/2025 07:44

Christs hospital

beAsensible1 · 25/04/2025 07:48

OP has asked for diverse private school recommendations. Not wether you personally think there is racism in schools or not.

Mookie81 · 25/04/2025 07:51

WildBactrian · 25/04/2025 07:36

Simply googling the percentage of 'BAME' pupils in a particular school doesn't tell you anything about the experiences of black children there, and if you're not black you will have no idea of whether or not the black kids face discrimination. Coming onto black mumsnetters to talk about white working class boys is not at all helpful to the OP.

Typical Mumsnet.

Ddakji · 25/04/2025 07:53

beAsensible1 · 25/04/2025 07:48

OP has asked for diverse private school recommendations. Not wether you personally think there is racism in schools or not.

Well, no, she hasn’t. She’s asked for schools that don’t discriminate (no school should as racial discrimination is illegal) and where the children won’t be ostracised. That doesn’t necessarily equate a school with a large proportion of either ethnic minority children in general or black children specifically.

kateandsam · 25/04/2025 08:10

I understand that St Dunstans in SE London has a good mix

ForZanyAquaViewer · 25/04/2025 08:11

Ddakji · 25/04/2025 07:53

Well, no, she hasn’t. She’s asked for schools that don’t discriminate (no school should as racial discrimination is illegal) and where the children won’t be ostracised. That doesn’t necessarily equate a school with a large proportion of either ethnic minority children in general or black children specifically.

We know what she meant, though. It’s pretty clear what she’s looking for. At least, it certainly is to me. And, I imagine, to most Black mums reading this thread.

LobeliaBaggins · 25/04/2025 08:24

In London, the City of London Schools.
Also Whitgift but that's boys only.

Ddakji · 25/04/2025 08:38

ForZanyAquaViewer · 25/04/2025 08:11

We know what she meant, though. It’s pretty clear what she’s looking for. At least, it certainly is to me. And, I imagine, to most Black mums reading this thread.

Yes, but my point is, as someone who’s had a child in south east London with its large black community and at a private school there which didn’t have that many black children in it, that that doesn’t mean they won’t be good schools for a black child. I mentioned upthread that DD had a diverse friendship group within her not-that diverse (especially not many black children) school, and I never heard anything, from either black or mixed parents or kids, to suggest that they were anything other than pleased with the school.

So lack of (or less than you might like) diversity might not mean lack of inclusion or friendship, which I hope reassures the OP.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 25/04/2025 08:49

Ddakji · 25/04/2025 08:38

Yes, but my point is, as someone who’s had a child in south east London with its large black community and at a private school there which didn’t have that many black children in it, that that doesn’t mean they won’t be good schools for a black child. I mentioned upthread that DD had a diverse friendship group within her not-that diverse (especially not many black children) school, and I never heard anything, from either black or mixed parents or kids, to suggest that they were anything other than pleased with the school.

So lack of (or less than you might like) diversity might not mean lack of inclusion or friendship, which I hope reassures the OP.

Are you Black?

BrentfordForever · 25/04/2025 08:52

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 25/04/2025 06:26

Private schools are NOT more diverse! You sound incredibly patronising and ill informed.

This

we had to leave a SW indie recently and one of the reason was that it was 95% white

we re white but we were really put off by lack of diversity, both boys and girls were turning into entitled d***

ChevronShoes · 25/04/2025 11:47

Treesaa · 25/04/2025 07:39

@SummerDaysOnTheWay
Sorry just seen an error I made, was trying to say thank you to you for replying to @ChevronShoes as I am not quite in a good frame of mind to start going back and forth with that poster.

To make it clear @ChevronShoes I definitely do not thank you for your post. Also I am only asking for suggestions for good schools, please do not come on here to start an argument and name calling.

My response to being called ill-informed and patronising was perfectly reasonable. @SummerDaysOnTheWay tried to start the argument, no surprise it ended up that way it normally does when people don’t hear the answer that suits them. If our experience doesn’t fit the narrative you’re looking for that’s fine but perhaps good to recognise that.

I do hope that you find the right private school and that it’s as welcoming and diverse as ours is. Sorry if that’s not what you wanted to hear but very best of luck.

ArghhWhatNext · 25/04/2025 12:20

HeatonGrov · 25/04/2025 07:35

Bradford Grammar has a lot of children of Mirpuri Pakistani heritage. And a lot of white British/Irish heritage. I would not call it diverse. It is bi cultural. Hardly any students of Afro Caribbean or West African heritage. It reflects the area in which it is situated.

Agree, but I think the balance is changing over time (though that’s an impression not based on stats)

Turmerictolly · 25/04/2025 12:55

Yes, you’d need to look a bit more closely at the ethnic makeup of the school but it’d be hard to know what the experience would be like for a black pupil unless you had some inside knowledge. It might be worth starting a separate thread with the name of the schools you’re thinking of and seeing whether anyone has experience of it.

My dc was at a mixed sex prep school in London which had around 60% white pupils, 20% Asian and 20% Afro Caribbean or African heritage pupils. There was no issue at all, it was very inclusive (although it had Christian ‘lite’ focus).
The big preps in London will have probably around 15-20% black pupils and a higher proportion of Asian pupils I would imagine. City of London School for boys for example has a good mix. The super selective Grammars in London are mostly BAME children from those I have visited and have experience of.

Outside of the big cities I think there might be less diversity and possibly the same for the boarding preps who might attract more international pupils, but from China.
Id draw up a shortlist of places you like the look of and arrange to visit on a normal workday if that’s possible.

Dweetfidilove · 28/04/2025 17:00

Trinity School in Croydon is quite diverse and goes CO-ED in 2027.

shalamakooky · 28/04/2025 17:06

Haberdashers, Hertfordshire

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