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Slave Play - Black Out Night. Have you been or will you be going?

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MayaTuppenceworth · 15/09/2024 15:24

Hi. Just wanted to ask and get some insight into your thoughts and experience of Black Out night. Next one is on Tuesday 17th September, will you be going? If you’ve already been, do you feel that the Black Out element enhanced your experience?

I’d love to share and discuss thoughts here.

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MayaTuppenceworth · 16/09/2024 08:26

Shame no responses (so far). I’m interested as I’ll be going tomorrow and wondered how others have found it and what your thoughts are on this. I purchased my ti keys quite late so will be ending up going alone, which I’ve not ever done before.

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LadyKenya · 16/09/2024 09:23

I have not been to this, no. I went to see a performance with themes of racism, a few years ago. It was a mixed audience, and had a question, and answer with the actor after the performance. Two ladies came with a clear agenda, which was evident from the questions that they asked, and on the way out I heard them say something derogatory, which of course was upsetting. After what they had just seen, to react the way that they did, was disgraceful. I can quite clearly see why the opportunity to attend black out nights could be very beneficial.

MayaTuppenceworth · 16/09/2024 18:38

Wow! That must’ve been awful for you. Thank you for sharing - I can’t imagine how I’d have reacted, but I definitely find the casual racism really triggering. I’m feeling a bit anxious about the show tomorrow, yet at the same a very strong urge to be there.

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LadyKenya · 16/09/2024 19:07

It was certainly upsetting. My companion heard what they said, and was equally appalled. I really do not understand why they would go out of their way to attend a performance with certain themes, and then make the question, and answer session about them, and their feelings. Is there no space where we can openly discuss certain topics, without having to run the gauntlet of other people making it about them? I would not have expected to come away from such a raw, personal play, and feel the way I felt, due to those women, and their total lack of sensitivity. Perhaps you could come back to the thread, and let us all know what you thought of the play? I would be interested in seeing it, although it would mean having to travel quite a bit.

MayaTuppenceworth · 16/09/2024 20:04

Well, reading back what you wrote and ‘twas ever this’ and I find the promise of equality and progression a pitiful mockery. I believe Slave Play ends in London this Friday and no idea if it’s touring.

I’ll definitely share my thoughts here, and thanks again.

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LetsGoGeneva · 16/09/2024 20:16

I won't be going because:

▪︎I do not need yet another show/film/reminder of racism.
▪︎I will not support one called Slave Play.
▪︎I don't agree with segregated audience especially one themed 'Black out Night'. I think most people are respectful, understanding and know how to conduct themselves if they attend a race themed show or any show. There will always be a few idiots among them who're racists just as those who do anything else.

I think it's all ridiculous and upsetting as a Black person to have special "Black Nights" just to absorb yet another trauma-bonding and trauma-filled slave entertainment with other Black people, and for Black people to see this as progress or a good thing.

LadyKenya · 16/09/2024 20:51

Thanks@MayaTuppenceworth

MayaTuppenceworth · 16/09/2024 21:33

LetsGoGeneva · 16/09/2024 20:16

I won't be going because:

▪︎I do not need yet another show/film/reminder of racism.
▪︎I will not support one called Slave Play.
▪︎I don't agree with segregated audience especially one themed 'Black out Night'. I think most people are respectful, understanding and know how to conduct themselves if they attend a race themed show or any show. There will always be a few idiots among them who're racists just as those who do anything else.

I think it's all ridiculous and upsetting as a Black person to have special "Black Nights" just to absorb yet another trauma-bonding and trauma-filled slave entertainment with other Black people, and for Black people to see this as progress or a good thing.

Thanks for sharing your views, which I definitely welcome but for the most part respectfully disagree with.

I frequent theatre productions - and especially interested in Black production or Black cast shows - and wonder why they the percentages of Black attendance is so low. Yet, Black out performances are virtually sold out. I’ll know tomorrow what the rough ratios will be.

The title of the play is certainly provocative, but I make no judgment on that and my initial reaction is to highlight rather than mask history.

I also don’t see a production as highlighting racism. It’s impossible to escape, so I’m definitely interested in how Slave Play deals with the issues.

For me, Black Out performances create unique spaces for shared cultural bonds, reality and understanding, rather than segregation. Although I do appreciate that others see them as more divisive than inclusive. Remains to be seen, and I’ll feedback for sure. I’m open-minded and look forward to both the performance and the experience.

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MissUnicorn · 17/09/2024 21:18

I look forward to your reaction. I haven't seen it and wasn't interested in it enough to make the trip down to London.

beetr00 · 19/09/2024 02:53

@MayaTuppenceworth interested to hear your thoughts on your experience and the performance.

MayaTuppenceworth · 19/09/2024 20:05

Arrghhh, so annoying! I wrote a really detailed précis and looks like I lost it by trying to add a photo.

So frustrating!
Show was great. Experience was great. Would definitely go again.

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MayaTuppenceworth · 19/09/2024 20:09

Just tried the back button to see if I could retrieve my original message. Apparently not. I’m not literary linguistic, but I thought Id produced was a well-written summary that captured some important themes and messages and annoyed to have lost it.

I stayed for the Q&A with the writer and some of the actors which was really insightful.

No photos allowed, but I managed to sneak a couple…

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MayaTuppenceworth · 19/09/2024 20:10

Even that hasn’t worked!

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MayaTuppenceworth · 20/09/2024 20:19

Ok, I’m going to try again and offer the summary of my thoughts about the play and of the Black out experience. From the queues outside the theatre, it felt like when I’ve been to watch Black Comedy shows - knowing that you have a shared humour of jokes before their even told. Once inside the vibe felt rather different, perhaps a closeness in anticipation of difficult themes and a painful history with healed scars. For me this feeling was foreshadowed by the ‘Self Care’ booklet that the ushers handed out.

I was warmed by seeing others who were also by themselves, and like me felt compelled to be there. To show up and take my seat, to participate, to represent myself. I’m quite shy by nature but got into conversation with others who sat beside and behind me - shared jokes about us all being uncharacteristically early! Small talk, and pleasantries that I’ve not found at comedy shows. If this was what Black Out night was set up to achieve, it already had my approval. Audience 95% Of Colour; we were told each Black Out night was sold out.

So, Slave Play. I expected a play about slaves. Not so - the title as Slave-Play would have been a more accurate and the context of the show and explicit content of the first few scenes would have been apparent. But if it’d been hyphenated, I probably wouldn’t have gone.

A play about power and race and how that plays out through couple/intimate relationships. Three couples:
Bf + wm
Mixed m + wf
Bm + wm

It was really uncomfortable viewing from the start as the play opened with three scenes with each couple building up and engaging in slave-play acted out through scenarios of familiar historic slave-master dynamics. Very physical, extremely sexual, intimate and intense (I turned away quite a bit).

The scenes that followed took the audience to couples counselling sessions that referenced the above. Really cleverly done and particularly insightful to understand how the Mixed-Race male character lived through his daily torment and how he grappled with his racial identity and whether he felt and behaved Black enough and/or too Black.

The Black female chastising herself for holding back in her relationship, for fear of her partner perceiving her as too Black, as potentially rejecting her. Lots of audible audience disapproval each time he called her his queen. (The narrative swings subtly from slave-play to slave play and back again). The Black female’s annoyance at how easily her partner has won her attention and affection. How she felt triumphant in securing her white prize, and the separate but apparent public trophyism from her and the partner. Her battling with having to surrender aspects of herself to fit it; her wanting to escape that but knowing she never would - and never could. Unsure if she even wanted to, yet very aware that her choices perpetuate the inequality, the psychological strains that her choice of partner means is a part of her daily strain.

The therapy sessions find that the white partners in all three couples are uncomfortable about their whiteness and privilege in relation to their lovers’. The sessions become dominated by exploitations of what the white discomfort is experienced, justified, understood and silences the experience of the Black characters. The irony lost on the white characters, as the point of the therapy itself was to give the Black partners a voice and sage space to share and explore their lived experiences within the context of their seemingly safe and optional relationships. Slave Play. Really uncomfortable in parts, but I found it really powerful as part of the narrative and experience.

I stayed for the Q&A after the show with the writer, director and some of the cast. Was as interesting as the performance itself. A poignant moment when the Bm actor shared his dismay that on each Black Out performance, members of the audience leave during the Bm+wm intimate scenes, yet we’re quite happy to stay and sit through the slave-play scene when the wm forced the Bf to each cantaloupe off the floor. The actor challenged the audience to reflect on our own reactions to the two scenes.

Overall I enjoyed it. A lot. I’d definitely go to see it again if I had the opportunity. With BHM only a couple of weeks away, I hope there are more Black Out performances and Black plays on.

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MissUnicorn · 20/09/2024 21:08

Thank you @MayaTuppenceworth . Your review makes me feel slightly annoyed that it's not coming up north.

MotherOfRatios · 21/09/2024 02:12

I missed the ticket for Black out but went Thursday. I'm Black and lighter skinned. I found it deeply traumatising.

The race play I just found it abhorrent there were better ways it could have been done, I really hated how it played into the stereotypes of Black women especially the sexualisation, the ending very much gave sexual assault.

The discussion about colourism could have been important, it should have been a Darker skinned Black man and lighter skinned Black man not a a Darker skinned Black man and lighter skinned latinx man, as it actually did feed into that erasure narrative, that couple had a lot to unpack and it deserved more time.

I expected the therapy part to do some unpacking but it didnt, it made a mockery of the situation.

The soliloquy's were good!

MayaTuppenceworth · 21/09/2024 09:00

Interesting to hear your views.

I found it very uncomfortable but felt that the Black Out removed a layer of discomfort that I would have undoubtedly otherwise felt.

Your point about the therapy being a missed opportunity to unpack is a question that came up in the Q&A. The writer explained that was deliberate and a reflection of missed opportunities - even when (and especially when) the very aim of therapy is to unpack. How the shift occurs. The dynamic between the therapists being a further example.

My interpretation of the Black woman through well-known tropes about music, sexualisation and anger was actually really well done. I felt it communicated her internal trauma. She recognised but felt trapped and as much as she hated that, they had become the currency of her relationship. We saw nothing of her career, intellect, aspirations, achievements because her struggle was about her feelings, experience and her own contribution to a power and racial relationship that she resigned to love to hate. Through loving her partner she was hating herself.

Thanks for your feedback as I’m reflecting on you points and asking myself why I interpreted the play differently. As an aside, I don’t live in London and don’t often question my immediate environment, but whether it was a Black Out thing or something else, I had a very strong feeling that I miss being in a Black majority environment.

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MotherOfRatios · 21/09/2024 12:08

MayaTuppenceworth · 21/09/2024 09:00

Interesting to hear your views.

I found it very uncomfortable but felt that the Black Out removed a layer of discomfort that I would have undoubtedly otherwise felt.

Your point about the therapy being a missed opportunity to unpack is a question that came up in the Q&A. The writer explained that was deliberate and a reflection of missed opportunities - even when (and especially when) the very aim of therapy is to unpack. How the shift occurs. The dynamic between the therapists being a further example.

My interpretation of the Black woman through well-known tropes about music, sexualisation and anger was actually really well done. I felt it communicated her internal trauma. She recognised but felt trapped and as much as she hated that, they had become the currency of her relationship. We saw nothing of her career, intellect, aspirations, achievements because her struggle was about her feelings, experience and her own contribution to a power and racial relationship that she resigned to love to hate. Through loving her partner she was hating herself.

Thanks for your feedback as I’m reflecting on you points and asking myself why I interpreted the play differently. As an aside, I don’t live in London and don’t often question my immediate environment, but whether it was a Black Out thing or something else, I had a very strong feeling that I miss being in a Black majority environment.

Maybe it's because I didn't get to blackout night but I just think sexualising black women in that way when we are already sexualised so much doesn't help a white audience. Like I don't want white people going your way thinking that's how we are. I also had white people laughing at some of the stuff that was going on. It actually angered me more.

I ultimately thought the play was just trying to do too much in too little time.

The colourism storyline was the most disappointing to me because that was an opportunity to actually unpack colourism and it was done so terribly.

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