How comfortable do feel posting here about things that really bother you?

[NewNameNigel]

I attempted to start a discussion the other day and it got completely derailed by white women. On that thread posters denied that black women are oppressed because of their race, called black women dishonest for daring to state they felt excluded, dismissed black women's concerns and even resorted to the angry black women troupe. MNHQ allowed this to stand as this type of racism isn't against the rules. After that I don't really feel like I'd want to post about certain issues on here even though its meant to be a space for us.

Does anyone else feel this way? It sucks really because sometimes I need to vent and prefer not to IRL so I feel a bit silenced.

(South Asian woman here).
Asian board is not as active as Black and Jewish, but I have seen a couple of threads being overtaken/derailed/lots of gaslighting.

I think Jewish board does not show on Active it has to be searched, so maybe you can request for that.

I'm sorry this is happening. These posters are ironically proving the point on racism 😢

The freedom of their anonymity is what fuels their courage to spew their honest feelings. In all areas, but in particular race and any other subject real life won't allow.
I never see such unmasked rage in real life. Not to this extent.

Many white people are more offended by being called racist than they are by racist words or the racism itself. They are instantly the victim in this situation from this point.

Yes I've noticed this.

100% this. They're also desperate to pretend that "racism works both ways" because their nan's cousin's milkman was once given a dirty look by a black person in M&S in 1975...

Yep.

I was reading a news story about a soldier the other day who went all the way to an employment tribunal and won. There are various links to the story: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/13/rastafarian-soldier-says-discrimination-case-has-destroyed-his-faith-in-the-army

The case summarises the attitude that is prevalent on MN.

Only do so if you want a pile on from women with a certain background telling you it's all in your head.

It's ridiculous. So sorry you don't get a safe space. On the Asian MN, one user who was not Asian was lecturing the actual Asians how she "knows all about Asian culture"

She kept saying South Indian instead of South Asian too. It's so bad!

I think Mumsnet should not put posts on these boards on the active page.

Strangely, my experience on the South Asian boards is that I'll get pounced on by people from the same ethnicity as me to say that my life experience is incorrect.

I'm not worried about discussing issues really. But find that I'm on here less than I was in the beginning. I began to get annoyed when racists landed in here with obviously goady commentary, then thread would instantly derail into arguments. Its boring to read and the smarter thing would be to ignore trolls en masse. I never waste time responding to them even if they @ me as I'm uninterested. So i dont want to read a whole lot of pointless wearisome back & forth with them. & its not as if their views will change anyway

I know it can be hard but we all know the game now and should be wise to it. Let conversation flow and don't give them the attention and interaction they crave.

I agree. Personally I haven’t posted lots on here, but when I have I have received some helpful responses. Although, I can’t tell you the amount of posts of read that have begun with ‘I’m not black but . .. ‘

I mean, if you are not black then move along ffs

You can use Lipstick Alley but that's toxic in its own way too. You have to cherrypick which parts of the site you go to.

Yes I use lipstick alley as more black-centric issues are discussed. I avoid the toxic issues on LSA.

NewNameNigel
What you've written doesn't suprise me but I'm going to keep saying what I've got to say/respond to
Being a black woman means that your opinion will never be worthy and that you really can't think for yourself can you?
But that's the white person's problem I say, perniciousness being part of their supposedly benign DNA
Don't let anyone stifle you, you've the right to an opinion if anything more so than the tripe masquerading as superior white wisdom concerning things they know nothing about
You speak your truth and opinion, when and as you want eloquently to because
White ain't always right; sometimes it's misguidely/usually wrong
And always about us