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Seriously … WTF?

23 replies

Gruelle · 19/10/2021 18:09

After years of head hitting brick wall repeatedly, people are - now - saying ‘yes’ to me.

Tiny, insignificant career things, that I’ve wanted forever. But not just one thing. Several. And no conferring between the grantors of these various gifts.

Am I Suddenly Prettier?

(It’s discombobulating because - suddenly - simply shrugging away possibilities without even trying becomes the riskier move.)

Just feels weird.

Is this happening to you?

OP posts:
Gruelle · 21/10/2021 09:39

Really? No one else raising an eyebrow over the effect of the past eighteen months on their own wider popularity?

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 21/10/2021 09:46

Why would you think your looks are anything to do with career success?

CruellaDePaella · 21/10/2021 10:02

I really don't know what you mean - your post is discombobulating.

What effects of the past eighteen months? Did Retrograde go into Mercury [I know] and we're all supposed to expect something to happen? Do you mean the pandemic affected your 'wider popularity'? You may have to be a bit specific about what's not happened before but started happening now.

But if doors are opening for you, then that's great. Walk through them. There's a time and season for everything. This is yours.

SouthernFashionista · 21/10/2021 10:05

Who’s more popular? Why are you thinking you’re suddenly prettier? Strange post.

FlatteredFool · 21/10/2021 10:07
Confused
AgathaX · 21/10/2021 10:17

Is your post aimed at women in general?

Gruelle · 21/10/2021 10:22

AgathaX, I posted on this board, so naturally assumed it would be read by people - mostly and perhaps most specifically women - who generally post here. (As well as elsewhere on MN!)

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NeverTheHootenanny · 21/10/2021 10:29

Do you mean the impact of Black Lives Matter OP? There is a good BBC documentary series that talks about this phenomenon (called ‘do black lives still matter?’) of suddenly being presented with opportunities that have been withheld for years and of how jarring that is (even where the outcome is positive).

CruellaDePaella · 21/10/2021 10:37

This makes sense. If it's what the OP means, I've noticed it around me in general. Not me specifically.

Fetarabbit · 21/10/2021 10:40

I know what you mean, having been passed over for many years for opportunities or treated a certain way, now following BLM people seem to finally be making what feels like token gestures, because if they really saw us as equals this would have been the case before the media having to highlight it.

EchoNan · 21/10/2021 13:12

@Gruelle

Really? No one else raising an eyebrow over the effect of the past eighteen months on their own wider popularity?
I've had a shit eighteen months. So have many women on here and elsewhere. So not sure of your riddle?

Glad things are working for you. Are you black? If you are, to think the world has realistically changed for black women, in eighteen months, is truly naive.

Several days ago a group of white teenagers threw bricks at our vehicle with two little girls in. Six pm in the town centre. So no, not feeling it myself.

If you are black, and you're getting on because of your abilities, then that's rreally great.

But don't be anyone's token appointment. Disaster.

EchoNan · 21/10/2021 13:13

Perhaps the OP could say what she means instead of the rest of us guessing?

It would be helpful.

Lndnmummy · 21/10/2021 13:31

@EchoNan thats truly awful. I am so so sorry. So sorry.
OP, I haven't noticed this around me so not to my knowlege. What I have heard from more than one white folk is "try being a white man in your 50s these days" in a woe is me pitiful voice. My response is "how the hell dare you". Angry

EchoNan · 21/10/2021 13:47

@Lndnmummy. Thanks. Wink
Re the fifty year old white man stuff whinger, I've found that those types really froth at the mouth if you suggest that they might be " old stock".
There is a certain sort who just love to bleat if they see new faces somewhere that don't match theirs.

Example. The bleating about some younger black Sky sports presenters. I love seeing Ebony Rainford-Brent reporting on the cricket, or Micah Richards on the football. They bring fresh air to the match analyses.
More please of these!

Orchidflower1 · 31/10/2021 23:29

@EchoNan so terribly sorry to hear that happened to your family. I hope the dc ( your dgd?) are ok.

@Gruelle honestly if you would like clearer answers, please pose clearer questions/ comments.

EchoNan · 01/11/2021 00:04

@Orchidflower1 We are doing ok thanks, at the time I couldn't ring 999 on my phone my hands were shaking so much. By the time I got through, they were well away. The girls (dgd) are ok now, but were scared when it happened. Lovely of you to ask, and hope you are all moving forward too.
Flowers
(As for the OP, well they didn't return, which speaks volumes really, a fishing expedition of some kind I guess}

Gruelle · 01/11/2021 01:24

Fishing? No, not at all.

It didn’t seem worth returning because it was clear I wasn’t going to get the conversation I’d hoped for. Two posters grasped what I meant, the rest was noise, so I just shrugged my shoulders and moved on.

Bit surprised and disappointed, but it’s a conversation I’m having in real life, anyway - so it doesn’t matter …

OP posts:
TheBlackDarner · 01/11/2021 01:48
Hmm
TheBlackDarner · 01/11/2021 01:55

Yup. Fishing expedition. An account of a racist attack is hardly "noise" to another black person.

Gruelle · 01/11/2021 02:29

Please stop. I obviously wasn’t including the incident EchoNan related under ‘noise’.

We’ve had a trying weekend on this board - (I spent a ridiculous amount of time reporting posts to MNHQ and having the not very satisfying satisfaction of seeing posts and threads deleted) - so I understand why people might be … jumpy. But when I started this thread nearly two weeks ago I really had wanted a conversation about one particular phenomenon. Not to be spoken down to like a child, or to have said phenomenon explained to me in words of one syllable. After all the decades I’ve spent on earth I’m more than aware that several different things can happen at once. I too have had a shit eighteen months which I won’t be sharing here - maybe most of us have, one way or another. But I wanted to talk about a specific thing and that hasn’t happened.

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TheBlackDarner · 01/11/2021 02:44

You've now returned to a thread after two weeks to tell us you didn't get the answers you wanted. And you are exhausted from reporting posts ? OkaaaaayConfused

Gruelle · 01/11/2021 03:28

Lord!

Not ‘answers’, TheBlackDarner - I said ‘conversation’. (I do know the thread you’re obliquely referring to, though. That was the level of engagement I was hoping for here.)

And definitely didn’t say I was ‘exhausted’ by MN interactions this weekend!

I’m up because I woke up worrying about stuff, and saw there was a new post here. So I responded. No particular interest in reviving the thread. Zero interest in spending any more of tonight defending myself on the Internet! (I won’t ask why you are up, gatekeeping MN threads, at this time of night - because I’ve found myself doing the same, far too often.)

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TheBlackDarner · 01/11/2021 04:12

No interest in reviving the thread?
Yet here you are, leaping from your bed worriedly in the middle of the night to reply after two weeks of ignoring requests for clarification of a somewhat incoherent op.

Best rest up, you do indeed sound overly stressed. Such a pity we didn't rise to your expectations of us. Smile

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