Derrick Jaxn and Kevin Samuels

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I remember seeing a video from this Derrick guy years ago, a nice positive video. Haven't heard of him again since. This morning I wake up to find that he is trending on Twitter because he has been cheating on his wife! His actions are the opposite of what he tells women they deserve in their lives.

Kevin Samuels! Where do I start with that one. I saw a viral clip of his earlier this year. He was talking to this Black woman like she was bottom barrell, telling her that at best she was a 4.

I wanted to discuss why we think women allow these guys to be any kind of voice when it comes to dating or relationships! Despite all of Derrick's sweet talk, turns out he is exactly the type of man he tells women to move on from or avoid. Kevin Samuels comes across to me lie he places no value on Black women and yet women still call in to his phone line/chat show or whatever it is.

Derrick Jaxn cheated?! Haaahaha! He was too smarmy for me to earnestly listen to. But to cheat? See failure. Who sends these men to cape for us from a higher platform than actual black women?

Kmt/Mschew/Hiss!

It's shallowness. The unpalatable truth:

If these guys weren't good looking they wouldn't get legions of women following them. No way would a plain looking man make it in the game.

They are vain, egotistical narcissists.

Derrick Jaxn's wife looked so uncomfortable in the clip. & The way he was gripping her hand. I doubt she wanted to go public but when your husband is making a shed-load of money via female fans, I guess damage limitation so family income and lifestyle isn't impacted, is the way forward in this case.

There's another one, 'Stephen Speaks' - again, huge following, very good looking man and he is also very aware of camera angles to show off how handsome he is😁

It's a very lucrative game for these men. Vulnerable women flocking to listen to their advice, buy their books and T-shirts, attend their seminars.

Big money. Via women who could be at least aiming to get on with real life and resolutions but instead are hanging on to the words of a random man they'll likely never even meet.

I saw a clip of Stephen Speaks berating a group of women about how women are against men. It was in a studio setting. I felt embarrassed for the women - standing there being filmed letting a man who is nothing to do with you or your life, chat shit. A man that is never seen with a woman...

I doubt these type of men would do well in the UK. We're too cynical and wouldn't fall for that game easily, en masse that is.

I glimpsed the Kevin Samuels clip. I realised I don't feel sorry for the woman - or even Jaxn and Speaks followers; I should, probably.

But if you're going to let a man who isn't even your man define your looks and life (& even if he were your man, with an attitude like that he needs dumping) then it's an idea to think about how being overly male-focused is hindering life opportunities.

I've a mind it's also to do with focusing on 'Mr Unavailables' as an excuse for avoiding things one should be getting in with in life but maybe can't face.

I agree, I just can't see this running in the UK! I'm trying to think of someone similar over here but don't know anyone.

These men prey on the insecurities of women. Also you're right about them using their looks, Derrick Jaxn is a good looking guy and maybe women secretly hope they'd meet a guy with the looks and persona just like him. Who knows.

I'm not even disappointed or surprised, I think his followers were very naive to take his advice and think that he was somehow above the advice he was giving.

The clip I saw on Kevin Samuels was one where he was asking a guy if he had a big dick. As if that is somehow super important to women. I just had to laugh, I think he just gets off on making other people feel shit about themselves. Somehow people lap it up and pay for merch and book private sessions with this fool!

Can't stand Kevin Samuels. Someone sent me that clip expecting me to agree😂😂😂 and I told him, you got the wrong one Sir.

Losted too soon

As for Derrick...I could never tell why I didn't like him. So horrible for him to put his wife through that- she didn't want to be addressing his followers .

I wish these women wouldn't follow these stupid men, but I get the appeal of Derrick maybe especially given the rejection BW face in all settings, to have a handsome BM telling BW they are worthy etc.. he preyed on that market.

As for Kevin why put yourself through that. I wish someone would try this nonsense in the UK, just so I could watch them get told where to jump

These type of men fo exist but they are within the confines of pentecostal churches. This was like side episode of Greenleaf.

What in the name of anything, is this a spiritual warfare? Which means she is going to stay longer in this abusive relationship.

Why is her hair bonnet more news than to the actual cheating? People going through what she has previously said about dark-skinned women being more of a problem now. This whole debacle is a whole arse mess and she is getting the most blame 🙄

@debbrianna Great point about the churches actually, obviously not all pentecostal churches. That whole idea of waiting on and valuing a man's opinion really happens a lot.

I didn't get the comment about spiritual warfare? I imagine she will take this as a blip in her marriage that God can see her through. I personally believe the dude will do it again and has probably been cheating this whole time. He just found a way to make money from women and ran with it, but he probably didn't believe in what he was saying.

I agree the bonnet and the hand grip was getting a lot of attention. BUT! I do think it was a bit weird. Knowing you're about to release a video that is bound to do big numbers, and she looks like she has rolled out of bed. That may just be her look, if it is then I apologise. I agree that the main focus should be him! His deceit and cunning ways. He probably loves that she is taking the heat off him.

Spiritual warfare is a belief that she is being tested for faith. The husband didn't do it becuase he wanted to. He did becuase tge devil made him do it. To prove her faith and fight the devil, she will stand by him and win this battle to keep the marriage together as God intended.
Now that I have written it down it sounds even more messed up.
The problem is, it's an actual belive ghat churches do preach and get their followers to belive and give abusers.

@debbrianna If that isn't some nonsense, i don't know what is!!!

I don't mean to disrespect help but I think this lady needs some help. Derrick wasn't tempted by the devil in this "spiritual warfare " he made conscious decisions to hurt his wife. How the hell did he manage to spin the story and make himself the victim and convince his wife, she is in some imaginary battle for his soul.

I don't mean to disrespect anyone's religion not help

One of the most disturbing and narcissistic thing I have ever come across on the Internet. . Jaxn did video reaction to his own video apology while selling his book at a percentage off. This is a first and it has left almost everyone gobsmacked. The level he can dive down to is unmatched. Like, how the fuck!

He also sent out a post with a pic of him and his wife from the video and captioned it

"Blink twice if you need help sis😁"

I'm paraphrasing but you get it

He is the gift that keeps on giving. He should probably take a break from social media and work on prioritising his wife.

Interesting to see this thread. I only heard about KS yesterday when I came across one of his videos on YouTube. As I was watching, I saw a few videos by the side with titles about 'DJ exposed' and whatnot. Had no idea what they were about as I don't watch DJ but have seen his videos around on YT a lot. Now I see a thread here talking about them. Just funny how the world works sometimes - You don't notice something until you do, then you start seeing it everywhere else.

Anyway, I clicked off the KS video after a few short minutes because I thought he was talking to this smart, beautiful, young woman like she had no brain cells. To me, it seemed like he had no respect for her and looked at her almost with an undercurrent of disdain, all in the name of telling her the bitter truth so she can wake up to reality.

I read the first few comments and they seemed full of hate specifically towards working-class women, women on low-income, single mothers and women who aren't models/size 0 with - most likely - long, straight hair and all that. Funny thing is I think most of those commenting are working-class, possibly raised by single mothers or have made women single mothers and are not male models themselves. I imagine his videos were really for these people to judge people like them as worthless and feel better about themselves. Just fodder for women bashing and will of course gain traction by the sheer drama of it all.

I thought it was the pits and not the sort of environment I want to be around even though I was bored and curious to hear what more he had to say.

I also noticed (or shall I say, 'thought') the girl was trying to stay unaffected - for lack of a better word - by his obvious superior attitude, which he masked as a professional, straight-talking, male messiah for poor lost women. She tried to answer the questions as nicely as she could and I could tell she was a little nervous. I suspect if someone else was speaking to her in that way, she'd have told them where to go but that's what happens when people are "respecter of persons" - you allow them to treat you the way you know you're uncomfortable with.

I got all this from a few short minutes into his video and the magazine-ready professional photo pasted by the sides of the screen to make sure you know he's a "high value man" and speaks for "high value men". It's entirely possible I could be wrong about it all and I'd change my mind about him if I spent longer watching or I'd just feel worse but I couldn't roll my eyes far enough inside and I had to laugh at his obvious snake-oil salesman setup. That's what it looked like to me.

As for DJ, at least he's trying to build women up, if that's what he was doing. Are people surprised a human being is fallible and makes the wrong choice? I think anyone who puts another human up on a pedestal because they say what you want to hear does need to have their bubble burst. I haven't watched their video so can't comment much on them.

All these motivational, hard-hitting, truth speakers with their marketing and branding are the same; same template and all. I pity people who fall for them - hook, line and sinker but we all have to learn our lessons one way or the other.

I had no clue who either of them were until this scandal came about. In all honesty I couldn’t bare to watch the whole video clip.

Doesn’t the wife feel embarrassed? I mean why are they openly speaking about it to the world!! We don’t need to know everything.

Just came across a parody video of KS, which has led to another parody video. Odd, because I blocked his channel from showing up but YT recommendations don't play sometimes. Have to say they're hilarious and I may just watch him some more just to get some of the references.

Wow! Just based on the parodies and comments, he's actually worse than I thought and I haven't even seen the viral video people are talking about. I think I'll keep his channel blocked.

I'll never understand why black women want to listen to men like these. Steve Harvey included. All of them are cheaters and no different from the pastors in Church. They prey on black women's desperation for a man

Steve Harvey is an interesting one. I think a lot young women are listening to him even more now becuase of his daughters dating history and how she has handled them. I have seen the comments under Michael b jordan and most comments are of envy and praise for Harvey and how he taught her right. even though the whole relationship looks like a Pr stunt. Internet gossip says otherwise.