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Selective Compassion in Atlantic Shooting

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Benelovencd · 17/03/2021 22:48

I have been reading the coverage of the Atlantic shooting and it honestly amazed me that the police are able to see the shooter as a human being and even offer the explanation that "he was having a bad day" and sympathising that they know how that feels like.

It's like the other shooter who killed people in a Black church, just minding their own business and the police stopped and bought him food at Burger King.

Both these people had KILLED multiple people and yet the police could find their compassion for them. George Floyd and any Black person killed by the police, always suffer the indignity of having any crime or bad thing they committed brought up as if to justify their death even though most are killed while not commiting any crime but instantly labelled as inherently bad by the police, the press and the public.

Meanwhile people who pose an actual threat to society and have KILLED people get compassion and understanding , and the same police who killed a Black man with autism for walking home now suddenly become experts on autism, learning difficulties and mental health issues.

When every community continues to call on the SAME community to stop hate toward them, it’s even more evident that THAT particular community needs to do more work.

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EchoCardioGran · 18/03/2021 00:00

Most of the dead are described as Asian Women, but the police " aren't there yet" with racial motive.
Even I'm amazed at the " having a bad day" and the suggestion that the murderer was in some way struggling with sexual urges. WTF?

It's not just the one police officer saying it, variations of it.
It goes back to the " right kind of person" discussion. They don't see women in this type of work as the "right kind of person". Especially women who are not white.

DeeCeeCherry · 18/03/2021 00:15

Now they're highlighting that the murderer went to church every Sunday. It's an insult to the murdered.

NBC news have put out an article "How Black People Can Be Strong Allies To Asian Americans Right Now"

A White man shot those Asian women (RIP) - & this is what they've come up with?🙄.

Forever expecting Black people to mule. Well that isn't going down well at all

How about calling on White people to be better allies, and recognising that White supremacy terrorism is the issue here.

Benelovencd · 18/03/2021 02:28

Everything these shooters do amounts to terrorism, but yet we hear stories about mental health plaguing these young white men, oops men only applies to 11 year old black boys and olderboys and the effect of violent video games on these youths (no scientific link).

We are meant to feel sorry for these boys.

And why on earth are Black people being expected to do work for a white man's actions?

He went to church and saw these places as sin, so wanted to get rid of temptation? No mention of killing actual women.

Not there with a racial element (no shit Sherlock, 8 Asian women isn't a pattern at all). I genuinely think some white people think admitting anyone is racist is worse than calling them a murderer because they must recognise so much of themselves in that person and they aren't racist so neither can he be 🙄🙄

If an innocent Black person recieved an ounce of the empathy these officers are capable of, maybe people like Breonna Taylor and Philando Castile, George Floyd, Tamir Rice would still be alive.

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Benelovencd · 18/03/2021 02:33

It goes back to the " right kind of person" discussion. They don't see women in this type of work as the "right kind of person". Especially women who are not white.

They literally can't and don't see anyone non-white as human. I honestly expected to see at least one thread on the topic. Nothing. It even further vindicates my stance that non-white women are invisible

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Benelovencd · 18/03/2021 02:34

Correction more threads than the two I saw, not no threads

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Starseeking · 18/03/2021 15:16

I have yet to see anything on the mainstream news about this shooting, I heard about it on Facebook this morning.

I knew even before I read the linked story that there would be sympathy for the (white) murderer, the police have initially dismissed it as him having had a bad day, and there being no racial angle??? The mind boggles. I feel desperately sorry for the women who were killed working in the massage parlours, I can't imagine that was their preferred line of work.

EchoCardioGran · 18/03/2021 17:53

There is a report on the Aljazeera site where the police remarks are referred to. It's quite in depth (but has adverts)
It refers to the rise in racism against Asians following Trump's " China Virus" rhetoric.
Also has some historical context too, which is helpful.

www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/18/what-we-were-afraid-of-asian-american-women-decry-attacks

Benelovencd · 18/03/2021 18:01

I saw one Asian American actor recalling how she was being asked what she thought of the tensions between the African American community and the Asian community.

Ummmm how, why is this relevant given the actions were committed by a white gunman? Talk about deflecting.

Thankfully her response was that "White supremacy is the problem not so zalled tensions between minorities ".

There are issues between the communities of anti-blackness and prejudice (which cuts both ways) but why is that relevant?

Why are Black people being asked to be better allies?

Why does the struggle work for everyone always fall to Black people?

How is any of this whataboutery relevant when the issue is white supremacy again and again and again?

No words

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EchoCardioGran · 18/03/2021 18:30

It looks like the start of a reaction to the "having a bad day comments".

abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-sheriffs-department-fire-official-spa-shootings-suspect/story?id=76533598

EchoCardioGran · 18/03/2021 18:36

Towards the end of that article there's a reference to the Sheriff and a face book page selling t shirts referring to China virus. (Now deleted)

That police officer looks like I imagined him to look. I hope he is sacked and his Captain pal too.

He's no Eugene Goodman.

NattyDiamondDoll · 18/03/2021 18:40

Absolutely disgusting and not suprising at all.
It beggars belief that someone could have actually thought that saying the shooter was "having a bad day" could in any way whatsoever be an explanation for his actions.
And to talk about the motive possibly being a way for the shooter to "rid the world" of those women just lays blame on the women - they are sex workers, prostitutes, so they deserve to die.
Events like this sicken me to my stomach. The level of white supremacy and privilege in this world is absolutely staggering.
RIP to all those who died, and those who will continue to die in a world where if you are not white, you're not even considered a human.

MoltenLasagne · 18/03/2021 18:47

It's shocking, this was a premeditated crime where the shooter travelled to three locations to intentionally target Asian women. No fucking racial motive my arse.

I've already seen excuses about how it's because these salons are fronts for prostitution, so fucking what? Seriously reminiscent of the police's attitude to the Yorkshire Ripper imo, but with an extra layer of racism.

RedMarauder · 18/03/2021 18:54

Why are Black people being asked to be better allies?

Why does the struggle work for everyone always fall to Black people?

How is any of this whataboutery relevant when the issue is white supremacy again and again and again?

White Europeans ruled their Empires with the policy of divide and conqueror.

They made artificial boundaries between different tribes, people with different skin colours and people with different ethnic origins so they could maintain control. There are a few cases where when they didn't do this natives, slaves, indentured servants and other imported labour joined together and had rebellions that had to be put down by lots of troops.

The ruling classes policy of pointing the fingers at another ethnic group/race when one of their own kind is a terrorist to a different ethnic group/race is a continuation of this policy.

Oh and when ethnic groups are "better allies" to one another they find another reason to cause division such as class, money or making people think a specific area is getting more unwarranted resources than others.

The response to this is to always point out, like the actor, the actual problem is white supremacy and not blame someone else who is also being given shit by them.

EchoCardioGran · 18/03/2021 18:56

These salons often have women there who have been trafficked, but I've seen no reference to that one way nor the other.

May they be at peace.

Ringsender2 · 18/03/2021 19:08

I agree with everything you say OP. Fucking outrageous.

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