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Due Feb 2010 part 2: the second trimester

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CaractacusPotty · 17/08/2009 17:32

Not sure I am any more qualified, frankly, but hey ho!!

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mamaloco · 03/11/2009 11:17

Hi all,
Just back from glucose tolerance test, look like a pincushion, while at it they did my coagulation test as well so even my ear is pierced!!
pingu DD was emCS too, so you just can ask, we will try to answer. Like stoofadoof, really struggling to decide between VABC and elCS, really want to avoid emCS at all cost.
Mawbroon Sorry for your son. I agree with the Ikea matress portector rather than plastic sheets, those are awful, and won't let you sleep due to noise and sweatiness. We already have enough of that with hormones and husbands snoring! plus (TMI) if you don't have anything more absorbant than a sheet on top of the plastic sheet, it might run down the side, matress saved but may be not bed and/or carpet. When my waters broke, I really had litres (may be 2/3 or more) not like the tea cup/pint the midwife described in the antenatal classes.
Apart from that, 3rd trimestre should begin at 27 weeks, I am due the 6/7 th of feb and friday/sat (6/ 7th of novemver) will be exactly 3 months to go.
We have a drizzle of snow here, brrrr. Saw on the news that england is flooded though so not complaining!

flyingcloud · 03/11/2009 11:33

That means I am in the third trimester this Friday! Exciting stuff!

PinguCarrier · 03/11/2009 17:37

OMG it's coming round a bit quick now isn't it. I've been quite lucky really with my pregnancy and so have been quite enjoying it, though the 3rd trimester looming suddenly made me remember "it's got to come out!" A thought I had managed to avoid for a while, which brings me nicely to my elcs questions.

My midwife thinks I have enough history to have an elective, however, she also thinks that if I really wanted I could try for a natural. This leaves me with the dilemma that I could probably swing it either way, but having experience of neither, I am at a loss to know which way to try to push it? (if you pardon the pun)

2happy, stoofadoof & mamaloco thanks for responding - I guess I want to know about pain, recovery time, how much of an invalid I will be, scars and of course, if you had a choice, which way would you go? All comments gratefully received.

Am now 26 weeks so am looking forward to the final stretch. Glad your DS is a little better Mawbroon health and happiness to all.

2Happy · 03/11/2009 19:07

Pingu - ds2 was an induction for post-dates, but he malpresented and had what's called a deep transverse arrest so an emergency c-section. It's called emergency because it wasn't planned as a c-section, but it wasn't an emergency IYSWIM - he was perfectly comfortable where he was but was completely lodged. So the atmosphere was very calm and we all knew what was going on (in compete contrast to ds1 whose birth story I won't go into because it'll just scare everyone sh!tless).

I already had the epidural in in labour ward. That didn't hurt in the slightest (I was in full labour when it went in and, frankly, you could've slapped me in the face with a frozen kipper and I wouldn't have noticed...). It's a very odd sensation - I remember at one point prodding some odd lump in the bed and trying to work out what the hell it was, only to realise it was my own leg .

All the theatre staff were friendly, everyone present introduced themselves and told me what they would be doing. It's routine to have paeds there for a c/s, plus anaesthetist, mw, obsx2 (though there were 3 for mine), plus theatre staff, so it's not exactly intimate!!

It took ages to get a good block for me - I could still feel on my right hand side (they tried forceps first and I could feel them grating on my pelvic bones, yuk). The epidural won't take all the sensations away - they tell you it's like having a washing machine going in your belly - but you shouldn't be at all sore. It then takes half an hour or more to close you up. The paeds check the baby over first (or they do for an 'emergency' c/s) then you get to say hello, but the first cuddle you get is when you're back in recovery, which feels like a long time.

The first 12hrs are fine, because the epidural means you feel no pain. Day 1 is also not as bad as you'd expect, but take my advice (if you go for the sunroof option) - TAKE IT EASY or you'll pay the next day. I speak from bitter experience!!! It's really hard to sit up after a c/s because you'r tummy muscles don't work any more, you have to roll onto your side first. And that's the case for a bit afterwards too (can't remember how long). I got home on day 3 or 4 I think, and though I was taking regular painkillers for a bit after, I felt less sore than I had after ds1's forceps delivery. In fact, recovery was better second time round - partly because ds1 mashed me up good and proper, partly because by ds2 I had 2 kids to look after so you have to get moving!

I drove at 5 weeks, and up to about 4 weeks had someone else around most of the time; ds1 was only 21m old and still needed lifting (eg in and out of cot) and I couldn't do it for a month (though he is particularly large for his age!).

The scar was horrible for a few months, purple and numb and itchy and blurch. And until I lost the baby weight, it made my tummy look like I had a right overhang. These days I barely ntoice it (well these days I can barely SEE it of course!).

What a flipping essay, sorry!!!
For me, the c/s was probably easier than ds1's birth, but that's because his birth was so rubbish. I felt disappointment both times that I wasn't "good enough" to give birth naturally, and because both were long and protracted affairs, met both my boys feeling exhausted, numb and drug-filled. The advantage of an elective section is you know when it's happening, can plan relatives to be around to help out, meet your baby feeling fresh, and avoid 2 days of hell. But it's an operation so not without risks, plus there's the risk that you'll feel like you should have tried... No easy answer. I still haven't decided what I'm going to do this time, but suspect it'll be a slice and dice job. I'll have a late scan for position, and if it's not LOA will probably not be given a choice. And even if I have the choice, it may be irrelevant anyway because I've never gone into spontaneous labour yet, and they won't induce someone who's had a c/s. And there are distinct advantages to not going through those awful 2 weeks after term wondering every day when/whether it's going to happen, putting up with everyone asking if you've had it yet, wasting mat leave, and watching your AN mumsnet thread turn into a desert!!!

Congrats if you've read this far

stressheaderic · 03/11/2009 19:45

Here's hoping you can help me ladies. I'm not on this thread, did originally join March club but then scan date moved to 26 Feb so have been keeping up with and enjoying all the posts here, but haven't actually posted. I hope you will pardon me barging in to ask a question!

I'm 24 weeks on Fri with my first, 20 week scan said I had low-lying placenta and to take it bit easier with no sex (as if, haha).
Had a really stressful day at work today, lots of walking round huge school site and serious incidents to deal with, got home 5.30pm and noticed I'd been spotting, and there was quite a lot of red blood on toilet paper. Has diminished a bit in last hour, not sure what to do. Phoned hosp but the office closes at 4.30 and it's just someone with a bleeper now - don't really want to bother them (at home?). Should I wait and see if it goes away, or phone again in morning and take morning off work? Can feel baby moving around so that's one good thing.
Any advice or similar happened to anyone? Trying not to worry but you can't help it can you.

flyingcloud · 03/11/2009 21:19

Stresshead - have you posted on the Pregnancy thread as well? You will get a lot more answers there. But my view is YES. IMO spotting at this stage in pregnancy means you should speak to a doctor asap.

Don't want to stress you any more than necessary but I think it's really important you get checked out tonight.

chinook · 03/11/2009 21:21

stressheaderic Welcome and sorry you are having a worrying day. There are lots of us on here with the same low lying placenta. I wasn't given any extra info about bleeding but I know some were. I did a bit of googling about the subject as you do, and am sure I read you should always get bleeding checked out just in case. I am sure everything is fine, but you will only worry until your mind is put at rest, so I would phone now. It really is better to be safe than sorry. Hope you get some reassurance soon.

Have done my first bit of baby shopping yesterday. Three babygros in blue and a Babasling. It was really wierd buying boys clothes rather than girls. I went into parts of shops I have never been in before! I also had my make up done at the Mac counter, and it was fabulous to be pampered a bit. It did look fantastic, all sultry and smoky, but it took an hour. Don't think I will be recreating the look in February somehow.

Funny how now we are all approaching the 3rd trimester we are thinking about the birth. I am definitely spending too much time worrying about it, and have decided to give hypnobirthing a go. Can someone recommend a particular book to me please?

clappedout sorry no words of wisdom for you re UTI's but just wanted to sympathise. It sounds horrid and it must have been scary to have ended up in hospital when you were abroad. Hope it clears up soon.

Hope everyone is blooming and well.

fiziwizzle · 03/11/2009 21:24

Hi stresshead. Have you tried calling your MW? I don't have any idea if it's serious or not but if I was in your position I would want to talk to someone tonight.

hannahsaunt · 03/11/2009 21:30

It's a bit of a fiddle but phone NHS 24 to get referred to the out of hours GP who can then refer you to your local maternity unit where you will be seen. Don't downplay any of the symptoms and the mattie staff will be happy to see you (IME) and would rather see someone to reassure them than not have you not bother them. Sure all is well but always better to be safe than sorry.

stressheaderic · 03/11/2009 21:46

Thank you for replying - there is still a bit of spotting (not sure what defines spotting, is just on tp), is it a bit late now? Will anyone be on duty who can help?

mummyof1butnotforlong · 03/11/2009 21:58

Are you R- stresshead? I am and have had spotting. They said to call labour ward which I did, in fact 3 times now this has happened! They were lovely and gave me a once over, shot of anti D and an internal. I am sure its nothing to worry about but do call. Night or Day!

grin · 03/11/2009 22:30

Yes ours always say to call labour ward, in fact they put us through to labour ward for info on much less 'urgent' queries than this if there's no-one in the midwives' office. Def worth speaking to someone, otherwise you'll be worried. Am sure all well but take care.

stoofadoof · 04/11/2009 01:21

hi pingu my version of c/s: 15 days overdue and 29 hours after waters broke and only 4 cm dilated despite 9 hours of synto drip etc both of us got infection and DD started to get distressed.. turned out she was stuck cos wouldn't tuck chin in, so into theatre in early hours...

managed to lie still while they got the spinal block in - told the anaethatist i loved him! it worked very quickly for me which i was enormously pleased about! the op was v straightforward - TBH i was so relieved the pain had stopped and something was being done to make sure my baby was ok, that i don't remember noticing anything about what was going on!

an hour after going into the theatre i was back on the labour ward with a baby trying to suss out breastfeeding! Had catheter in and massaging leg things on for the first 12 hours. Managed to get myself out of bed for a shower about 14 hours after the op.

I was relieved to be sent home on day 2 - with paracetamol and dicolfenac (anti-inflam) to take for the first 5 days i think. I don't remember having any real pain - more feeling discomfort because i was aware i'd had the op! I carried on taking the tablets cos they told me to, to prevent any inflamation and pain, so i imagine that managed to keep a lid on anything.

The midwife removed the stitch (one long one with bead on either end) i think on day 7 - no pain but i felt a bit icky when i saw the length of it! i developed a small stitch abscess after a couple of weeks, but no real pain with it, and antibiotics from doc sorted it out within a few days.

I struggled bending over for the first week - had to get DH to pull up knickers etc! I was also v uncomfortable in bed and really worried that i would never be able to lie down flat again, but i think i managed after about 10 days - it was a relief!

like 2happy i had an 'overhang' until the baby weight went - i lost count of the number of times i opened doors into my tummy - cos it was numb and bigger than i was used to, i would stand there (sleep deprived, obviously!!! ) repeatedly trying to open the door before sussing it was me that was in its way!!

nearly 3 years on and my scar is very neat - right on bikini line and i have full feeling back and no numbness. Honestly, i didn't look at the scar for about a year!

i didn't drive until 6 weeks cos that's what they told me - tbh i felt ready to drive a week or so before. i also got out of the hoovering for 6 weeks, but i could have done it before i reckon .

I really don't know what i'm going to do this time... there are pros and cons to vbac or ecs... am hoping i'll make up my mind once i've seen the consultant!!

another essay - sorry!

mamaloco · 04/11/2009 08:18

Hi Pingu my version is similar to stoofadoof, fever and baby distressed and stuck ( I have an horror version on an other thread somewhere), so emCS! I can't remember a lot because it is was the beginning of the 2nd (or 3 rd?) night without sleep. But it didn't hurt a bit after the epidural. You can feel them rummaging inside though, a bit weird. I stayed longer with the "pee drip" and got up after 2.5 days (due to heamorraging and blood perfusion, but current midwife says it was probably due to the 37 h labor and that risks are lower for a ElCS, i.e. I would probably have bled with a VB as well).
No pain in the scar, paracetamol enough to get rid of it, numbness still now in the area, scar a bit ascrew and over hanging (even if I lost all the pg weight, well, 26 weeks ago anyway!) in a corner but well below bikini line. No problem moving around or getting up, no pain when washing the scar in the shower with soap, if you do something wrong you will feel it strait away.
I followed the 6 weeks no lifting, no pushing to the letter and gradually increased my walking time from 4 weeks on. My SIL didn't and nearly ended up back in hospital, with severe pain and fear of tearing (carried food back home at 3/4 weeks).
I am also completely lost as wether to choose VBAC or ElCS this time around. Like toohappy felt like I didn't do it properly for a while, but it's gone now, I have an happy and health DD so I am a mum no matter what happenned at birth.
stress I hope you got the reassurance you needed.

chinook · 04/11/2009 10:18

stoofadoof the reason my dd got stuck was also because her chin wasn't tucked in. I don't know anyone else who had this and think it is the reason I am getting nervous about giving birth again. Have you been told whether it is likely to happen again? I got to 10cm in about 6 hours and thought everything was going ok but then she wouldn't come down and no-one knew why. I was fully dilated and in the transition with continuous contractions for 5 hours, before I was given syntocinin which gave her the push she needed to get out. All on gas and air. I envy your c section because I was desperate for one. Tbh it has left me a bit traumatised. Although to put it in perspective I guess I was up and about and in the bath half an hour later. Sorry to waffle on, but it really does help to talk about it.

ktpie · 04/11/2009 13:47

Stresshead - did you manage to see anyone? Hope everything was OK.

I'm a lot more relaxed about labour the second time around, perhaps a little misguidedly, but I will carry on with my rose tinted specs that it will all be fine. In fact recently I have been counting down the days, I'm fed up of pregnancy.

I got my health in pregnancy grant thing yesterday, it was a nice surprise when I looked at my bank account balance, I've been sensible and put it into savings (for now!).

A friend has been round this morning with her 3 month old daughter, DS was very sweet with her, he liked rocking her when she was in her car seat.

mawbroon · 04/11/2009 15:09

I went for a new bra today. I still wear a nursing bra, even though ds rarely feeds through the day. It's handy for the occasions that he does!

Before ds, I was an 34A! At my biggest when ds fed loads (like at 6months), I was a 34E. This time, my ribs must be flaring already and I'm a 36E already. I dread to think how big my Z cup bra will be when I get the comedy boobs when my milk comes in!

The woman just kept saying sorry about how little choice there was in my size of nursing bras, and luckily for her, she only mentioned once that it is unusual to be nursing when pg....

DS is a good bit better today. He has been really, really hungry and eating like a horse. I am reluctant to say that he is on the mend, because we have got to this stage twice already in the last 9 days, only for it to go downhill again.

I have the double joy at the moment of heartburn and constipation. I am going to the doc with a shopping list tomorrow, so will ask for recommendations for a laxitive that is fine for pg. I have Fybogel, but it is vile. Hopefully I'm not going to need iron, because that isn't going to help the constipation any....

Clappedout · 04/11/2009 16:23

I too have the joys of constipation, it's causing all sorts of pains and no fun at all with the old pelvic floor, weak as it already is.

I thoroughly recommend dried apricots and prune juice if you haven't tried all that already!

mawbroon · 04/11/2009 16:27

I will get going on the apricots and dried fruit. My stomach is still a bit dodgy from being ill last week, and I have realised that there are loads of foods that I havent' eaten since I got pg!!

I still remember the relief of the first post c section poo last time!

PinguCarrier · 04/11/2009 19:13

Wow and thank-you stoofadoof mamaloco and 2Happy for all your time and detailed responses, very helpful insights. I laughed and winced in equal measure!

I have to say I'm tempted to push for elective. Whilst I know it's a major op, at least it will be planned and I won't have to hoover for 6 weeks (has to be reason enough, surely!

stresshead how did you get on? I hope all is well and you are ok.

No stretchmarks yet, but am doing bio oil twice a day and taking a couple of tablespoons of udo's choice oil supplement in a banana smoothie every day - so far so good, but still plenty of time

Can't wait for xmas - how lovely to eat as many mince pies as I bloody well like without giving a monkeys!

Keep smiling

2Happy · 04/11/2009 19:14

OMG mawbroon, you just reminded me of the worst thing for me - the first poo post-delivery. Both times. With ds1 because by bits were so mashed up, with ds2 because it had all gone on so long and been pumped full of drugs I was constipated to f*k. Still have the bottle of lactulose - so foul it almost gives gaviscon a run for its money!!

stoofadoof/chinook - both dses were deflexed. ds1 was also OP and hand first. ds2 was ROT. So malpresentations can recur, but in my case is almost certainly because of stupid misshapen pelvis. I know others who've had bad presentations first time who've had dream labours second time (grr )

stressheaderic - hope it went ok last night

watercress · 04/11/2009 19:29

Stresshead, any news?

Good to hear about Csection experiences. I'm on an elective after a hideous experience last time, and just too many risk factors for lasting damage this time, so it's good to hear that it can be OK.

I'm having a bit of a difficult time - just heard that my work is being relocated, and I'm really struggling with pelvic pain. I really don't think I'm good at being pg!

Hope everyone's ailments aren't proving too troublesome (constipation is rubbish, as are UTIs).

mawbroon · 04/11/2009 20:10

I will add my c section story another day. Basically, I was in such denial about having a section, I didn't even know they were doing it!!! I thought they were still doing ECV

ktpie · 04/11/2009 20:54

Mawbroon - last time I saw the midwife I came away with loads of stuff on prescription including fybogel and lactulose. I had such a bad time with piles last time (5 months of agony) I'm determined to keep on top of it this time so having a fybogel every day and have the lactulose at the ready just in case.
Be careful all of those with constipation!

stoofadoof · 05/11/2009 01:56

hey chinook this is exactly why i feel nervous about birth too! the only thing the hosp said was that there was no 'definite contraindication to a successful vaginal birth but given the problems experienced it may be unlikely'... hmm.. not a lot of help really! 2happy's post makes interesting reading too!

though i suppose there wouldn't be an exact repeat (for me) of last time, cos they can't give you synto when you've had a section cos of the strength of the contractions it produces, and they won't hang around for hours waiting for progress cos of previous history... on the other hand, i have read that the likelihood of 'instrumental assistance' in delivery is increased in my circumstances if going for vbac, and i don't fancy that much either .

Those continuous contractions weren't that enjoyable - no pain relief either... but of course, i wouldn't change a thing !!

am also off to dig out the apricots and prunes!

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