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Due Sept '08: Bring on the babies!

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LittleConnie · 11/08/2008 14:32

Well that was cutting it a bit fine...

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StarlightMcKenzie · 12/08/2008 17:29

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mustsleep · 12/08/2008 17:44

starlight that's it thanks- think i will go and get it just incase i find the birth hard and then at least i have it

pethidine is awful and it did make the birth harder i think looking back as things semed to slow right down after i had it and ds was a very sleepy baby - but i didn;t know that at the time

my midwife said today that as my second birth was so quick that it may be worth telling dh that if he needed to deliver the baby all he would have to do is pick the baby up and place him on my chest and to make sure that he is dried off and wrapped up in a towel and then just wait until they get there - apparently because a lot of people are in shock at delivering baby themselves etc that they don;t dry the baby off and they get cold so always good to know - although dh did look pretty freaked out at even the suggestion that he may have to do that

potxola · 12/08/2008 17:44

Sassafrass I have sent you the plan by email.

Mamamuffin it is good to know you are now feeling better about labour.
The tens did help me a lot during the contractions when I was induced and hot showers through the night too.

Slinkiemalinskie I see you point about GBS and as you say it is a very personal decision, but it would be good to have the choice or even the information about it on the NHS consultations.

eandz · 12/08/2008 17:56

for anyone who is interested, me, little connie and my baby sister will be meeting for coffee on sunday at 11:00am at Patissarie Valerie in Marylebone. we'd love anyone else who would want to tag along to feel welcome .

email me: kishmish at gmail dot com if interested.

slinkiemalinki · 12/08/2008 18:10

Yes potxola I totally agree - informed choice is the key, absolutely.
I am still undecided what to do this time round. As my waters went early they made my DD have ABs anyway even though the paeds said she appeared absolutely fine (and the test was eventually negative). Seeing them struggle to put a canula in your newborn's tiny hands and feet (and fail and try again and again) while she cries is pretty horrible. Her immune system doesn't seem to have been affected by the massive dose of ABs as a newborn but I kind of regret not questioning it more at the time - I was just told that it was a necessary precaution where there is a delay between waters and labour.

biglips · 12/08/2008 18:34

can anyone tell me how can u feel the head is down/engaged? as when my DD's head was engaged which i didnt know and i couldnt feel it in my pelvis..

StarlightMcKenzie · 12/08/2008 18:40

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biglips · 12/08/2008 18:47

so is the biggest firm lump in my belly is the head?

StarlightMcKenzie · 12/08/2008 18:59

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biglips · 12/08/2008 19:05

my last (scan) check which it was 34 weeks said it was in a breech olique position. Then last week midwife shows me where the head was which it was the biggest lump bit. Yes i do feel the backbone often on my left side of bellybutton..it always had been on my left side.

StarlightMcKenzie · 12/08/2008 19:09

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biglips · 12/08/2008 19:11

i can move it when i lie down...

potxola · 12/08/2008 19:28

eanz I am too far away to meet you, but have a choc. cake from Valerie thinking of me. I still remember a huge one my dh bought from Valerie in Soho for my birthday 14 years ago

potxola · 12/08/2008 19:38

Slinkiemalinkie I understand you so well. The first pictures of my son shows the canula in his foot because he had to be given antibiotics in the NICU.
When I managed to get him into the NICU because I felt there was something wrong with my son, the first thing the expert there said to me was that he could have a STREP B infection. I had done the test privately and when I told him that, he asked me how I had know it was important to do it and why I decided to do it. Having ruled GBS out, they really treated him very well. But it made me realised that it does happen a lot, that they are used to see it in the NICUs and that at the end it becames a number in a percentage of things going wrong.
SAD, ISN'T IT?

jearund · 12/08/2008 20:41

Potxola I would also love to see your birth plan as I hadn't even thought about a c-section one until yesterday! I don't want to post my email address on the internet though (although I'd be more than happy to give it to you but it appears I have to pay to contact you privately!) so would you mind posting it here after all?

I was told the same as you about induction - they would definitely not induce me as it increases the risk of the scar rupturing (Kel78 I imagine you will be in the same position) so effectively if we were to go into labour then unless it was a textbook labour we'd end up with an emergency c-section anyway.

Re going into labour early - my friend asked about this and they said you just ring up and tell them you have a c-section scheduled and have gone into labour and they will take you in and give you an emergency one. I doubt they would refuse anyway - they'd know if it was booked there was a reason and they're not going to risk you suing them! But if you're worried ask the consultant. Have you got another appointment before the pre-op?

Re Strep B testing: it's usually done at around 37 weeks, the rationale being that if it's present then it will still be present during labour. So yes there is still time. In fact there is time as long as you have a few days before giving birth as they need those days to grow the cultures. You can get the NHS test free on request but as I've posted previously it returns false negatives in 50% of cases (as happened to me). Apparently the private test is different and far more reliable.

Kel78 I'm not sure what to advise you. I went into my meeting thinking I was having a VBAC and when the consultant told me about the increased risks in my case I found myself asking what she recommended, on the grounds that she was the expert and the most important thing is that Dougie comes out safely and hopefully it's also the safest option for me! If I went for a VBAC I might get it - if labour progressed normally - but when I weighed up the chances of ending up with an emergency CS I decided that they were high enough that I'd rather cut my losses and have the elective one - no antibiotics needed then for the Strep B, no risk of stitches breaking and no risk of getting the worst of all worlds - labour then a CS anyway! Recovery is quicker after an elective CS too. I think if you are having doubts I'd go back to see the consultant and talk through the risks and ask their advice. It's up to you in the end but they know more than we do so are best placed to advise you. If you had to fight to get a VBAC is that because they thought you too were at significant risk of the stitches breaking?

Mustsleep the drug you are talking about is Meptid - similar to Pethadine but apparently less likely to make the baby sleepy than Pethadine.

Slinkie I think it's 4 hours you have to have the antibiotics for before the baby is born. Everything you said ties in with what I was told too. Like you I would not take the risk because I KNOW I am a carrier. I guess having the test may pick up that you are positive so you can have the antibiotics but there is always the risk that it will flare up between the test and giving birth. Not much you can do about that! That's why they tend to do it at 37 weeks. I know what you mean about the canula as my DD had one too (though I was being stitched up so wasn't there) and was also negative - but I am glad they gave her the antibiotics as the idea of her catching my infection was terrifying. Incidentally she is the healthiest girl I know and usually fights things off while we are ill so it didn't do her immune system any harm!

Sorry for VERY long post - answering lots of people!

Sunshinemummy · 12/08/2008 20:55

Hi all - just a quick one from me. I'm not able to come along to the meet up tomorrow I'm afraid (I've posted on the meet-up thread as well). BP has risen (this is exactly what happened at 36 weeks with DS as well) and I now have to go to the DAU for BP testing. If it's raised again I'll have to have bloods and urine testing and see the doctor. I was there today from 09:30 to 16:00 - not fun!

Have been getting very stressed out how unready we have been for this baby (which probably hasn't helped BP) but DP has taken this week off and, despite the fact that the decorators have let us down and we won't be newly decorated until October, he's done loads road the house including clearing things out and putting up drawers, which means I feel loads better and more ready.

On the dad front he called me today in tears, obviously drunk, from his solicitors office, telling me that step-mum has kicked him out but won't give him the money she owes from the house. He says he has nothing and he read me a letter he wrote her saying that he does not fear death. Feel really sad about it all but also am thinking I need to keep out of this - I have ebnough to deal with. As I think I've said before he's been a rubbish dad and has always put DSM first and really there's so little I can do when he won't even admit he has a drink problem. Told him today - as he was still talking about coming to visit with DSM when Baloo is born - that he couldn't come as I wasn't having drinking and arguing around either of my children.

Anyway, the loss of a baby puts all this in perspective. I'm just going to keep focussing on all the wonderful things in my life and put the rest to one side for the time being.

Anyway, must dash. Have fun tomorrow, those of you who are going.

Sassafrass · 12/08/2008 21:18

Sunshinemummy, I'm sorry you have to deal with your dad at this point of the pregnancy. My dad was in and out of jail all my childhood and is/was a drug addict and alcoholic so I can sympathise. I actually took the harsh way with him a couple of months ago and gave him a piece of my mind and told him not to contact me again. I'm not suggesting you do the same, but I think you're doing the right thing trying to keep out of it and keeping him away from you and your children when he's drinking.

I know that my baby's head is engaged now. Everynow and then I get very strong period like pain and the pressure down the pelvis is indescribable. It's driving me nuts to be honest. Tomorrow I'm going out for lunch with my two best friends, one of whom is expecting twins! I'm really looking forward to this last chance to go out just us without any children. I imagine it'll be a while after Katie is born.

eandz · 12/08/2008 21:27

ok girls, with regards to rasberry leaf tea tablets. i just got mine in the mail and am wondering do i take 2 a day? or 4 a day? (each tablet is 750mg)

anyone used them with success? i'm only 34 weeks so far, it's not to early is it?

Sassafrass · 12/08/2008 21:40

I found this Eandz,

"How to take raspberry leaf tea

Raspberry leaf tea can be taken in tea bag, loose leaf, tablet or tincture form and is available from most herbalists and health food stores.

It is advisable to wait until the 32nd week of pregnancy before trying raspberry leaf tea as there is a concern that consumption before this time in the more fragile, earlier stages of pregnancy could lead to problems. Once you have reached the 32nd week of your pregnancy you could begin with one cup of raspberry leaf tea a day and gradually increase up to 4 cups or tables a day (although this may vary in accordance with the strength of the blend and the manufacturers instructions)."

eandz · 12/08/2008 21:42

thank you soo much Sassafrass !!

Sassafrass · 12/08/2008 21:55

No problem Eandz.

I think, I might just have had the beginning of a show! TMI alert.... when I wiped myself there was a bit of gunky mucus. So I'm now very curious to see if there'll be more =) The way the baby is pressing down I'm not surprised things are loosening up a bit.

StarlightMcKenzie · 12/08/2008 22:04

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potxola · 12/08/2008 22:11

Sassafrass How exciting!

Sassafrass · 12/08/2008 22:12

white, not see through.

biglips · 12/08/2008 22:14

glad its not red

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