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hi,it's happyathome.
just wondered how you,your family and the pregnancy is going.noticed you said you were going for a scan.how did it go?
hope your DD is getting on at school well,too.
i lost interest in trying for a second,over the last 2-3 months,and then surprised myself this month and something deep inside was making me go for it.so guess,i've got the 2 week wait now.although,i have had what i thought to be usual pmt,but can't be sure.
i almost regretted trying,when it was too late,but i think it's just nerves.
would love to hear how your'e getting on.
take care x

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Oh just found this- sorry took me so long!!
I feel fabulous now, have been much better since 12 week point. Was not sick just horribly miserable and tired.
Just starting to get a bump(now 15 weeks) and bought some maternity clothes. Not sure if i've felt any proper movements yet,can't wait.
The 12 week scan went great,dd and dh came too so it was a lovely family moment.I have scanned my 12 week scan pic, I'll put it on my profile!!
DD is taking it all in her stride,as if she always knew it would happen one day.
Am feeling far more broody at work when I see other people's newborns. They look so much cuter when you are pregnant! Must be hormones!
I'm still scared of how we will cope when we have 2 children but come on, everyone else I know manages. I just knew if i hadn't gone for it one day I would regret it.
I kept taking "risks" and then regretted it after because I would get cold feet again. Don't worry,because when you find out you actually are pregnant you just accept it. I always knew though if someone told me out of the blue one day "you're pregnant" that I would be happy. I just found making the decision really hard. Are you like that too?
How would you feel if someone told you right now you were pregnant?
Dd is loving school,she just had her 5th birthday. Went to her first after school "playdate" at a friends for tea on monday. She also went to her first extra curricular art class today and says she loved it!
She is starting to read well now too,can't believe the changes in her recently!
Hope to hear from you soon, and again wishing you luck on the conception front!
How is your dd? And how are you generally?
Please stay in touch x

hi Ellasmum,
thought message had got too far down,so glad youv'e seen it!.
i'm really thrilled you and your baby are doing well and of course your DD too.WOW!-your scan picture is adorable.it's made me more broody.very spooky.my DD has just also started an Art club at school.she loves it and has already made a personalised plant pot for me and a key ring that has their own design on(she just lives for art and craft and has spent most of her time doing cardboard creations at home lately and she loves writing and does lots of that too).
just had parents evening,and she's improved in every area,so we are very proud.
she also does Acrobatics outside school.had 3 lessons now and loves that.
Our 'risk' taking didn't work this month.got hopeful and tested on day 37(most cycles lately 33-36)...started AF that night!
was pretty dissapointed,so i guess i'm more for a second than againest.tried to sort bag of baby clothes yesterday,chucked DD's nursery jumper in bin...got it out later at night...just can't let go.were you like this about baby stuff in loft whilst trying to decide?.very strange you've mentioned cold feet because only yesterday i said to DH,that i didn't know whether to 'risk take' again this month.makes me wonder if someone in the sky is watching me and whether it will ever happen for me.strangely too,there is a service in church for the school kids,once a month and this week we went because Acrobatics was at a later time.i sat there wishing we could go regularly...then that night the class teacher said the later time was going to be permanent!!..meaning we can go to church now.everyday ,i believe more,that if i get pregnant than i will have been 'led' to it and it will be right for me..my favourite quote 'there is a reason for everything',gives me great peace.
so i feel,you will cope...it was meant to be for you...if it does get hard though,there is a lesson in those trials and
no doubt you will come out stronger than ever.
sorry i sound like a lecturing priest or something, don't i?..but it's just those beliefs keep me falling into the pit of despair at the moment.
my DH has finished work and is looking for a job just now.life was just miserable with his long hours and long travel.hopefully things might improve..
decided i'm going to watch/tape more funny programs,need a good laugh as things are getting a bit stressful and i'm only just holding my head above water,without having to resort to GP.glad you are not as miserable now.has your AD's still been helping?,or can you not use them in pregnancy.
oh well,better go and do some housework..we're having a spring clean just now..trying to concentrate on that,and forget other uncontrollable issues just now!
i will keep in touch.i'll keep watch on this thread and bump it every now and again.
was great to hear from you.it's made my day.
take care x

forgot to say thanks for the good luck wishes,and in answer to your question,yes i would probably be happy too if i found out i was,but probably very scared like you too.
i bet your mind is much more 'content' now,isn't it.It is that constant carousel of wondering and deciding,that stresses you out and i wish it would all just end sometimes...i mean that i would either get a BFP or be told i couldn't have anymore.then i could settle.something tells me that if i decide to just carry on as we are,i will always be haunted by it too.rather than count my blessings that i have now,i crave more sometimes.i just feel 'cheated' that i have spent 3 years 'deciding' then when we TTC,nothing happens and i feel like the 3 years of hell was for nothing..it wasn't really OUR decision anyway?!..thanks for listening to my waffle,feels better talking about it.
i will be thinking of you.
hope you get your 'kicks' soon from LO.
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Hi again, thanks for your message! Can't believe your dd is just so similar to mine. Ella never stops drawing,sticking and colouring.I swear if we threw all her toys away tomorrow she really would not care!
She just isn't a toy type of girl.
We have been doing loads of spring cleaning,well more like spring CleaRing as we have binned so much old stuff.
Since finding out I'm having another I have been able to part with Ella's baby stuff much more easily.
We threw away most of our baby stuff as things like our electronic swing chair had gone mouldy in the five year gap!(was in the shed).
We are having a real struggle getting Ella to listen to us at the moment- she is testing us to the limit! Yet shes great for the teachers at school apparently.

We keep finding writing on walls behind furniture, and she had coloured in part of the radiator in the front room behind an armchair.
She has been doing this on and off since age 2 and KNOWS its wrong.
Cannot think of a punishment that will work.Any suggestions?
We have just spent the last four weekends having the spare bedroom(which is to become Ella's new room) plastered, decorated, with new carpet and new furniture. Its going to be gorgeous but if she ruins it am afraid dh may have a nervous breakdown!
Haven't bought any baby stuff yet. But might be tempted once we find out the sex on 9th april!
Not feeling any kicks yet, hopefully any day now. Midwife said i am measuring well for dates- hope it isn't a ten pounder! Ella was 8lb 10, big enough!
Am still on ADs, on sertraline 50mg.Apparently safest in pregnancy, according to my consultant anyway. I feel ok but definately notice if I forget to take one.
Anyway do not feel disheartened about not conceiving straightaway. The average couple takes quite a few months anyway.Just try and enjoy the "trying" without having to think about contraception!
Good idea about recording some funny stuff- its all I watch these days.Really does make me happier.
It really is nice not thinking about whether to have another, but it has quickly been replaced with "how are we going to cope?!!" fear. Theres always something to worry about.
Better go and cook something for tea now, hope to hear from you again soon xx

great to hear from you!-i love to read your posts.thanks for your words of reassurance as always.
oh no,the dreaded 'testing' phases-my DD keeps going through them too,and from what i remember(not much ),was more so in reception.All you can do is stay as stern and calm as a teacher?!.We had a fabric lamp drawn on(biro) and other bits.She's not done it anymore.We removed priveleges i think.If she did it again now i would probably make her clean it off and either take some pocket money away saying it was to pay for new paint(only a pound or something-but they don't know eh)or since she is art nutty,take away ALL her art materials and say she could have them back when she showed us we could trust her and we would be checking behind chairs regularly e.t.c.Say one pen for each day we found all areas clean.We would 'check' together and i would heap on praise if it was clean.What about a large area of her bedroom wall with blackboard paint for her to doodle on,promised if the rest of the house stays clean,for x number of weeks?.If she is doing it 'hidden' in corners,maybe she likes the idea of keeping a 'naughty secret' from you,so what about a secret diary.We got DD one and said she could write anything she likes and we would not be able to look because she locks it.
If it's to do with anxieties,i suppose all you can do is keep talking and explaining things to them all the time and try and include them in the planning/choosing e.t.c.
I'm a parent also struggling along and winging it,so my ideas are only based on the personality of my DD,so they might not work for Ella,but i hope i've helped anyway.
We did our DD's room up last summer,done pink and 'grown up' instead of baby animals and yellow theme.Let her choose colour e.t.c. and just spent minimal really,but effective.She adored it!!...just think it gives them something to get excited about and shows them how special they are and that they have an identity of their own and that you are recognizing their preferences e.t.c.
I'm sure Ella will love her new room.It might just be attention seeking,because you have been busy at weekend with her room,my DD always plays up when the level of playing with us goes down...she does entertain herself a lot,but when tired/ill,she can't and pesters us like crazy.I would maybe tell my DD to make pictures that she could put in her new room/decorations/choose toys for displaying while i was busy.that might keep her out of trouble.good luck with it all anyway!.it's so hard isn't it?!
i'll post again soon this week.i better go now as DH wants computer.still looking for a job.
take care x

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hi Ellasmum,are you there?...kept bumping,but no answer.
worked out you must be 26 weeks now?...wow,where did that go.
anyway hope you and the baby and Ella and your DH are well.
i've got good news.....i'm PG too!.I'm 5 1/2
weeks just now.No sickness,just tired,moody,sore BBS,slight cramps e.t.c.
Told DD,and she's thrilled.Did Ella know from early on?.Anyway,would love to chat and catch up with you on this thread.
I was thrilled when i found out,but scared,more negative this week(you worry about other things don't you?!),but now peaceful...no more silly decision to make.
i'll look out for you
take care x

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Wow congratulations!! I'm so happy for you
I'm now 30 weeks ,getting a bit tired now, feet and ankles swell up in the evenings- I stand up too much at work all day!! Its really weird delivering babies at this stage, but it does make you feel closer to the women,more empathetic!
I'm off after tomorrow for 11 days leave then when I go back will have 3 weeks to go, thats 12 shifts!! I know I'll miss the people at work though. Did you ever get to go back to work?
Yes we told Ella straight away, and she hasn't pestered me about how long it'll be etc at all. She seems very unbothered about it all- as if she thought it was always going to happen!
We have decorated her old room an aqua blue colour now, and have the carpet coming soon.I've also been given loads of boy baby stuff from a friend so its saved me alot of money!
I really think my bump is as big as i was about 35 weeks with ella and she was pretty big at 8lb 10 so thats my only nagging worry!
My friend had a 10lb 7 oz baby boy a few weeks back, and shes really petite!!
The pregnancy has definately flown by compared to last time, probably because your daily routine doesn't change and you actually forget you are pregnant sometimes! (not b4 the horrible first 12 weeks though, i felt more tired than I cd believe, I just wished someone would shoot me alot of the time! It has been fine since then though.
Ella has changed in that she is more clingy with me - maybe she feels protective or something.She is fine in the day at school etc and the "playdate" thing has taken off now with her little clique of friends! But at night she finds it hard to get to sleep so despite going to bed at 8pm she lies there till 10.30 pm alot. she knows I'll be in from work at 10pm though so waits up for me!Its just sad when i see how knackered she is after school.
Anyway, hope you are well and i'd love to know how you are getting on,x

hi,
thanks for the message and the good wishes.
I'm so glad you answered,as i was worried whether you were ok or not.Glad you are well and Ella.I'm 10 weeks on Sunday(i think).
Like you say,tiredness is terrible sometimes.
Fortunately no MS at all.Some food aversions.BBS more tolerable now,than at the beginning.Now totally at peace.Don't have to decide on a 2nd anymore,but like you plenty of other doubts crept in and after the 1st happy elated week,i was quite indifferent/not happy about being pregnant,but think that was tiredness talking a lot.Actually a bit more excited now and can't wait for 1st scan in 3 weeks(10th July).I'm hoping for another girl,but will probably love a boy the same.Just can't get my head round boys.How do you feel about a boy?.Just obviously want it to be healthy just now.How did Ella feel?.My DD would like a sister,so i am a bit anxious.Did Ella go to your 1st(or other) scans?
Your new nursery sounds lovely.Aqua is my favourite colour(we have an aqua bathroom).
I am a church organist,so i have kept that work up,since DD was a few months old.Will still probably do it till nearly Xmas(due 14th Jan midwife said yesterday...i figured it as 18th!).Not told them yet,or any school people.Probably will after scan.
How are you emotionally now?.Hope you're feeling a lot happier now.
Oh well,better go do housework.
You put your feet up as soon as you can and relax.Hope Ella gets back to sleeping normally soon.Think they go through these strange patches occasionally,with or without us being PG.DD was a bit wobbly at the start of year one,but recovered quite quickly.Has Ella made good progress at school?.She will probably find year 1 a shock,but they all do.It's so amazing how quick they 'grow up' in year one.
I can't believe where time has gone,were we both there trying to decide on a second child last week?.Here's you 30 weeks and me nearly 10.Isn't it so weird we went through the 'deciding' agony together then got PG within the same year?!.
I'd love to keep in touch with you.We've been through a lot together already have'nt we!
take care and enjoy your 11 days.
happy and Snugs(the bean) xx

Hi again, am relaxing now I'm off, my shift friday was so busy it nerly killed me!
I promise you the tiredness will lift soon, I felt really miserable for first 12 weeks, but then felt great. Now i'm getting tired again due to being "big" etc and moodiness is returning with it! I am so excited about having a boy- but thats because I already have a little girl. I am very nervous about it as don't know much about bringing them up. people keep telling me they are easier than girls- but who knows! Luckily Ella kept changing her mind about whether she wanted a brother or sister and then once we knew we told her so she knows she has no choice now! She changes the subject when you try and talk about when the baby comes/being a big sis etc but I'm hoping thats just coz shes seen so many of her friends and mine having babies that she just finds it very natural .She said she wants us to have three children not two yesterday so she can't be that worried!
Ella is thriving at school, she loves it and hangs around in particular with two other "only" children(both girls) They definatly are a bit different to the ones with siblings.Will be interesting to see how she changes! She has already changed alot in the past year. Much cheekier and more moody. likes to talk about bums/ poo/ farts all the time , they all giggle at this all day.
Ella came to a midwife appt and heard the heartbeat ( was very unbothered) but not the scans because I know she would have been upset if it hadn't gone well etc.
Keep in touch anyway, and wishing you lots more energy,xx

nice to hear from you again.
So glad you are all positive about a boy.My DD suddenly said last week that she wants it to be a boy now,because she likes the names we thought of.(me and her like Toby,but DH doesn't)Have you thought of any names?.DD also plays with any boy baby she comes across then says....boys are really cute too aren't they!.I think we are both preparing, so we don't get stuck on hoping for a girl.I like the idea that boys may be less independant and more wanting cuddles and are less complicated socially(girls have such dilemas and can be pretty nasty to each other...had to sort out a few 'bitchy' verbal
fights already).
know what you mean about scans.Think i will not take DD to 12 weeker.Don't know about 20 weeker yet,but like you say could be upsetting if somethings up.Bet she will be happy with just scan picture..
LOL at 3 children!-i definately don't fancy that.Will be getting 2 bricks to DH's wedding tackle i think.
DD now stopped with the rude chanting mostly.Novelty's worn off.
Glad Ella likes school.
Take care and hope your moodiness goes soon(worse than tiredness isn't it?!).Lock yourself away from the world so you can keep calm.That's what i do.
Is it nice to have all the 'baby kicking' again?.Still forget i'm pregnant half the time.
bye for now
happy and Snugs xx

Hi happy, how are you and snugs doing? Read that your scan went ok, really pleased for you.
I am now nearly 38 weeks. we have decided to call our little boy Jack William. Ella is definately getting more excited now and mentions him quite alot. It helps that his room is now all set up with cot linen/ moses basket etc and even the bouncy chair is sitting waiting in the living room. Think it makes his presence felt in advance so shes coming to terms with it more.

She had a lovely report from reception teacher- so good dh and I laughed (in private!) that it must have been mixed up with someone elses! She must save all the naughty grumpy behaviour for us, but i suppose thats the right way round!

Since Ella finished for hols and I started mat leave she is actually behaving nicely as shes not so tired. Its very expensive though trying to go out and entertain ourselves though!

I can't wait to have our baby but on the other hand for the sake of him starting school it would be better if hes a september baby!
I'm finding it really hard to sleep now as my hips go into cramp alot from lying on the same side all the time. For some reason I get a blocked nose and can't breathe when I lie for long on my left side, so end up always on the right!
I'm also more uncomfortable because with second babies the head doesn't need to move down into your pelvis till you start labour, so his bums right up in my ribs all the time and they really ache!
Anyway, enough of my moaning, let me know how you are getting on and how dd is,
love ellasmum x

hi Ellasmum,
Nice to hear from you again.Wow,only 2 weeks to go.I clearly remember seeing your 12 week picture on your profile...only like yesterday!.Sorry you're so uncomfy just now.Love the name you've chosen.Spookily Jack was on my 'ideas' list,but i'm so confused about names.Will find out on 3rd Sept what we're having.
Glad about Ella's report.My DD had an impressive one too...so very proud!.Great to spend time with them when they're not tired hey?!.Thought hols would be hard work,but not been so bad,although not done playdates as i felt quite tired/lazy.A lot of mummy play plus grandparent days instead,but DD's not complained or pestered for any.Going on hols to Northumberland next Friday.Going to take DD to scan the Tue after we get back.
I will watch this thread.Would love to hear how it goes for you.
Hope you and DH and Ella (and Jack William),enjoy the rest of the holidays.
take care.
love Happy and Snugs x

Hi, ooh I will be lurking around 3rd sept to find out what you are having- if you are sharing of course!
Are you feeling kicks now? And how are you feeling?
I think the novelty of being off is wearing off for me and Ella- I would love to go to work somedays just to keep me busy and stop me spending money!
We have never been so broke. keep telling myself when baby comes we won't spend any so it'll balance out. No signs of labour yet.
Bought some nursing bras today, hope they'll be right size, difficult to know. hoping to breastfeed for longer this time, only managed 4 weeks with Ella but she was a really difficult baby so maybe this time will be easier.
I was always a bit too embarassed about feeding out and about too, hope I can be braver this time!
Am hoping to deliver on low risk midwife led unit in a pool if its free, my sister had her 2nd baby over in ireland a few weeks ago and had a lovely waterbirth and recommends it highly- and thats from someone who had an epidural first time and was insisting she'd go for another!
Anyway, let me know how you get on too x

Hi,
take my hat off to you,managing 4 weeks of feeding.I only did 3 days.I'm going to get more support this time if i can and hopefully may do longer.
Just feeling slight flutters(i think!).We're off on hols for a week on Saturday(Northumberland),so i will be offline.Good luck,just in case it happens early.Hope you get the nice unit birth.I will be doing hospital unfortunately as had a PPH,ventouse,stiches last time.
Just got my triple result today.1 in 24,000 chance...so i'm over the moon.Glad i don't have to choose whether to do amniocentisis e.t.c..One less worry on holiday!!
19 weeks today.. i've a funny feeling now till last 10 weeks or so will drag.Did it for you?.Not as impressed with being pregnant this time.Body is creaking/groaning and dragging me down a lot earlier on.Just want my body back to myself,whereas i thought i would enjoy 'housing' another baby and feel all maternal with already having one child.Ah well,bigger kicks and my scan in 2 weeks may boost my excitement.Just glad a lot of the earlier worries are over.It's just hard isn't it when you want your focus and energy to be there for your firstborn and it isn't anymore?!
What a rant!
Anyway take care and will look forward to getting back to see how you're doing.
Happy & Snugs X

Hope you have a lovely holiday! I am REALLY bored and fed up waiting now, can't sleep hardly at all- double bed feels like its shrinking by the night!!
I definately didn't marvel and enjoy pregnancy like I did with Ella but think thats coz you have to deal with the one who is already here, plus its not a novelty!
Does help when you have 20 week scan and more kicks though, definately makes it more real.
I felt it all went quite quick up till 30 plus weeks when work got too tiring, and since being off work I have started to get more and more bored and frustrated. Could definately never be a SAHM!Just miss the varied adult company I get at work.
only next week left for Ella and she starts year one,hope she'll cope with that and a new baby bro ok!

Catch up soon xx

thanks,
thought i'd check here before we go.Reassuring it does'nt drag.Glad it's not just me who's a bit indifferent to it.Still feel like it's a dream,not really happening to me.Then i see things that remind me how empty/sad/confused i felt whilst trying to decide on another and then realise that now i DO HAVE A BABY.Got much bigger movement 2 nights ago and was more sure it was Snugs.It does make it more exciting!.
OH well...say to yourself..at least i don't have 21 weeks to go like Happy...i don't mind you using that mantra.Do you know if those support belt thingies are any good for aching/twinging pelvises(agony when i walk...worry that i can't spend next week on the sofa).
Us poor mums don't get sleep do we?!..my DD has had a cold/cough for 3 weeks now and doctor said yesterday she may even have mild asthma,so i go back to surgery to see practice nurse when we get back.Taking antibiotics on hols,even though he thinks they might not work.Mad with myself that i didn't force myself to go to bed sooner when i had the chance and all was quiet.
take care
Happy and Snugs X

weirdly, around the stage you are at my pelvis was painful. i bought an emma jane elastic maternity belt(9.99 I think) online and found it great. Its good strong elastic and you wear it quite tightly around bottom of bump, feels like you are holding it up with your hands! It really helped me, I wore it till a few weeks ago and have had hardly any pelvic pain/backache this pregnancy!

Also start being very careful to get in and out of bed/ cars etc with legs together and don't push heavy hoover/shopping trolleys or move anything by kicking with your feet.You aren't supposed to sit with your legs crossed either.
If it gets worse then get your midwife to refer you to obstetric physio sooner rather than later as prevention is better than cure.