July 2013 - Holy Shit, this is IT!!

[dinkystinky]

New thread for us to natter away on as babies keep on arriving. 11 at last count already and not even in July yet.. Who will be next??

Oooh abz that does sound glam! my 1am at the moment just consists of me using whatever I can find to heave me over so i can lay on the other side!

I haven't posted in a while but its half 1, so im not going to do personals but i have been reading and smiling at new arrivals and thinking of you all whenever problems arise!

I'm still up too. In fact, haven't been to bed before 2am for days. Everything takes so long now!

I am up as well.

Esme, Lanclass, Evelyn and Slouching thanks for your replies re: have u had the baby yet. I specifically avoided telling people EDD and just said end of July/ beginning of Aug to avoid such calls as I was overdue with both DSs but its clear that this has not worked.

I intend to have a long walk during the day to see if it can bring on labour as I was having strong Bhs when I was still working but all seems to have stopped when I started mat leave. All this lying around watching day time tv isn't helping.

silver good idea to not tell people the due date, i find people dont remember the exact date enough that it'd make a difference for me!

Haven't been back to sleep since half 1, trying to kip downstairs at the moment with oh as we seem to have a lot of money spiders in our room (caught at least 6 tonight) and then some massive moth thing was by my head and i hateeeee them so i was a bit hysterical upset!

Going to have a good hunt and see where the spiders are coming from tomorrow, but for now i will try and get some kip

Really struggling with the late nights - I'm wrecked by 10pm but DD2 is just waking up. From 10-2 she just wants to be fed & held but I can barely stay awake. I actually dozed off at one point & woke up to see her lying in her crib with her hat on - DH had obviously taken her off me & put her to bed after I fell asleep . During the day time she's happy to just be put down awake & will drift off to sleep, but at night she just cries when she gets left in the crib.

Sorry to hear totally could you spend time just next to her cot instead of picking her up? Might help without exhausting you too much, if not this will stop one day, not much help right now i know x

Morning all. Totally - tonight can you aim to go to bed when dd1 does (eat dinner with her) and leave dd2 with dh for a couple of hours - dh kept Jackson downstairs with him for an hour and a half last night so I could sleep as none during the day for me (and only a couple of hrs the past couple of nights) and it made a world of difference getting some proper sleep in before the feed wind sleep cycle started. I've banished dh to the spare room and Jackson and I coslept last night - between that, and him properly feeding post tongue tie snip, we had a much better night last night.

Granny - yes was v lucky to be seen and diagnosed so quickly - case of right place, right time, though did spend whole day at the clinic as as result. While waiting Jackson saw the cranial osteopath too to help him relax after the surprise of such a fast arrival which might have helped last night too, and I met lots of new mums (including someone I used to work with!) And heard their birth stories which was kind of nice as didn't do nct classes etc this time round.

Abzs - hope appt goes well today and Icing, good luck in banishing the beasties

Totally, we have same issue. She's like it in the daytime too. It's lovely snuggling so much but I really struggle to stay awake when holding her. Co sleeping didn't really work as it's the action of being placed on her back on any surface but us that she hates. DH is sometimes able to trick her by letting her sleep on him then v carefully moving her in that position to moses basket or wherever we want her to sleep. Doesn't work so well for me as she stirs when I do it and if she can smell milk she often wants comfort sucks! Second Dinky's idea of disappearing for hour or so if you can. Also have you tried swaddling? Didn't really work for us but lots of people swear by it! I've also found waiting till she's v sleepy then putting her down and rocking the moses basket stand while playing soothing music seems to settle her if only temporarily!!

Icing sorry to hear about yo lack of sleep. I managed to sleep at around 4. I also have a phobia for mini beasts. Was stung by a spider when I was young and had an encounter with a cockroach. Try to catch up during the day.

Totally and BB01, I was once told babies change every so often. Hope this sleepless phase passes soon.

B won't entertain solo sleeping at night either, we're co-sleeping with her tucked into my armpit 90% of the time. Luckily she doesn't want to feed all night though unlike her big brother.

BB re putting her down, I slide her really slowly from my chest down onto my arm then inch her off my arm onto the bed... Seems to work most of the time.

DD1 would only fall asleep on the boob or curled up on my/DH's chest. We used to carefully transfer her to her pre-warmed (with a hot water bottle) crib onto her front. I'm really hoping not to repeat all of our (lack of) sleep dramas with DD2, particularly as she seems so happy to drift off by herself during the daytime. I'm trying to avoid letting her sleep on me, rocking etc.
Going to bed super-early is a great idea. I'm usually not that tired, but I think it's definitely worth a go.

cheek I'm sure I was quite a sight, certainly enough to frighten off any traffic wardens or grumpy drivers! I was inexplicably pleased to get spades back though
My boys are currently 6, 3 (4 in september) and 2. They are a lot of fun and bring us so much joy but can be v hard work at times. Luckily ds3's speech has improved dramatically in the last few weeks which is definitely helping reduce tantrums

Sorry to those having problems overnight, the only way I could ever cope in early days was co-sleeping but I think doing whatever works for you is the key

dinky that's amazing getting tongue tie snipped so quickly, I think it takes weeks up here

Well I really thought baby was coming last night, had 2 hours of mild contractions lasting about 45sec every 10 minutes, but thought I would try going to bed and get some sleep...everything petered out so obviously wasn't quite the right time.
Planning play date with friend this afternoon so maybe something will happen while I'm there. There will be 3 mums (incl me) and 9 kids hence the reason for not meeting here- it can be pretty messy and noisy but they always have a great time together and us mums will get a chance to drink tea and eat cakes- perfect!!

Hope everyone has a good day and abzs hope the renal appt goes well
41+1

Re sleep can I recommend Sleep: the easy way for peaceful nights by Beatric Hallyer and Lucy Smith...I know I haven't had DC1 yet, but book comes well recommended for several mums I know, saying that it has quite literally changed their lives! Have read most of it and it seems v sensible and takes normal life into account! My SIL has just read it and her DS1 is 8 weeks old and would only fall asleep on her etc etc but put what the book said into practice and she got 9 hours straight night before last - the first night she tried it!

I know it won't work for everyone but it's maybe worth try?

I'm just wishing this baby would make an appeappearance...it's too hot to be pregnant! Though one of my friends has organised a baby shower for Saturday so any time after that would be fine!

39+0

Hi everyone!

My DS would only sleep on me when he was first born, not easy. Swaddling did work for us, think being out in the world as opposed to in my belly made him feel a bit vulnerable so being in a swaddle was comforting. Perhaps a bit more difficult w this heat though.

Thinking hope you enjoy your playdate. Actually no, hope you get horribly interrupted as your waters break and you go into labour! As was said, win/win!

41 weeks today. Woke up feeling really down and fed up. My mum got here last night, staying for several weeks to help out, so should feel relieved. She has taken ds to the park so I can relax. Relax too much as Im just sitting here crying on off. Sweep tomorrow, really hoping that sets things off as dont think I can do this much longer.

esme I know how you feel, that was me on Monday. Having resigned myself to being pregnant for another 6 days till induction I feel a lot happier and am mananging to enjoy the last bit of time with boys before baby arrives. Definitely good to let it all out so blub away, you'll feel better once it's out of your system
My friend also thinks making plans will have a labour inducing effect so here's hoping!

Having said that I'm sure I'll have another weepy day before next Tuesday!

Thinking, Esme - its the hormones and a good thing - means your body is getting ready for the birth. I clearly had a rush of hormones on Sunday as dh and I argued (which we don't often do) over ds1's homework of all things! Thinking - it sounds like baby is making their way out at a leisurely pace - I still reckon bubs will be here soon. Are you taking evening primrose oil and rlt Esme? Epo has prostaglandins in which can help thin your cervix to help with the sweep.

Thinking - I had tt snipped privately at the clinic - I think a NHS referral would take weeks here too but wanted it dealt with as quickly as possible before my milk came through.

Pressed post too soon - have a lovely day today Thinking with your friends and their kids.

Went to ds1s class assembly and classroom exhibit this morning which was super sweet - dh popped Jackson in the papoose and he slept through the whole thing! Have ds1s drama award ceremony this afternoon (dh has to work) and am hoping community midwife turns up before then as otherwise will be in deep trouble with ds1 for missing it! Ds2 has his nursery assembly tomorrow morning - Jacksons arrival has worked out so well as dh and I can make the assemblies due to mat and pat leave four once! Right, must try to nap now!

esme - the weeping is normal & just your hormones. You can expect a lot more of it to come . There was a radio ad in Ireland for the ISPCC (Irish version of NSPCC) that had me bawling every time it came on, just due to mum hormones, also a MN thread about a horse (I'm not an animal lover at all) and a walk through a cemetery (seeing the messages of love for lost ones on headstones of random strangers) have set me off. I never used to be a crier at all!
I hope having your mum there helps. My mum stayed with us for a few weeks when DD1 was born - she came to 'do everything so I could establish breast feeding' - and that's exactly what she did. Cleaning, cooking, laundry, shopping. She was (is) amazing! I hope your mum is as useful.

I registered the birth this morning and now I'm off to the supermarket to buy nice food and breast feeding treats. DD1 is at nursery, so it's a much more relaxing day....

Hi all, Im 39 weeks getting a bit close now... Last week I saw my consultant for the first time (there was a mix up and I was never referred even though I was high risk pre-eclampsia) and am now under consultant led care even though Im not 100% sure what that means, but basically I have no confidence in this consultant what so ever... I explained to him I had cancer removed at 12 weeks pregnant back in January and my next appointment with the oncologist was in october to which he replied "well if it has come back when you see him in october we may have to consider early induction". Now I am no dr or professional and I may have my wires crossed here but Im pretty sure I dont have the gestation period of an elephant at least I hope not. To make matters worse he was more interested in his cup of coffee which he was getting which was the reason why he was 20 minutes late for my appointment because there was a cue. He never actually did anything in my appointment apart from scare me into thinking I may still be pregnant in october, he never told me any of the warning signs for pre eclampsia, never told me what to do who to call, nothing just said wait and see what the oncologist says. Generally he came across really incompetent and I wouldn't even trust him to put a plaster on me let alone make medical decisions which could affect the wellbeing of my baby or me. Does anyone know if I was to ask my midwife if I could go back to midwife led care that they would allow it... if it was earlier on I prob would change hospitals, but due to illness earlier on I have also met alot of the midwives and I have stayed on the ward and all the midwives etc seem to know what they are doing I just dont want that man coming near me or my baby if he is well as stupid as that. Sorry for the long rant but my next midwife appointment is tomorrow and I dont want to go in and say something if there is nothing they can do about it.

Hi all

Just adding the name and weight of my DS: Gray Everett and a fairly hefty 8 lb 6 oz... although I see a fair few of us had weighty babies... no wonder our perineums have taken a battering!

Dinky: congrats on your arrival! Don't think there have been any others since? Too exhausted from broken sleep and constant feeding to remember order of events. A common complaint I am sure.

Due date list (Innies):

CottonSocks - 24th June
Skelosia - DC2 - 1st July
QuinandThem - 1st July
Badgerwife - DC2 - 1st July
Cutandstick - 2nd July
Runswithsquirrels - 2nd July
Thinkingof4- DC4 -2nd July
Persuasion - DC1 - 3rd July
esme80 - 3rd july
Glup - 3rd July
PenguinsInThePantry - 5th July
marmitemad DC2 - 6th July
Efme - 8th July
GeorgieWilson - 9th July
TwoOfThree - DC1 - 10th July
Specialknickers - 11th July
MrsMillions - DC1 - 11th July
Cheekbyjowl - DC1 - 11th July
Reikimummy - 12th July (DC1)
SlouchingPanda - 12th July
Thundercatz - 12th July
Twirliedobbit - DC4 - 12th July
Hai1988 - 12th July - DC2 - Girl!
LittleFlower888 - 14th July
Tashtastic - 14th July
Beaditsback - dc2 14th July
Mizar - 15th July
photographerlady - 15th July
Evelynj - 15th July
Guavasforbreakfast - DC1 - 16th July
MiniPenguinMaker - DC1 - 17th July
Pocopearl - 18th July - DC1
Boostar - 18th July - DC2
MrsWildermac - 18th July
SingingMomma - 18th July
MummyKanny - 18th July
Andrea75 - DC3 - 18th July
GingerJulep - DC1 - 19th July
Niktasha - 19th July
whitedaffodil - 19th July
Grannyapple DC2 - 19th July
Thinking positive thoughts - 20th July
Icingthecake - 20th July
PhieEl06 - DC1 - 20th July
AmaDablam - DC1 - 21st July
Lancslass83 -dc1- 21st July
butterflyexperience - 22nd July
BadMissM- DC2- 22nd July
AllYoursBabooshka - 22nd July
Orangebubbles - DC2 - 22nd July
Isitme1 - 23rd July
Scoutfinch - DC1 - 23rd July
MightBeMad - 26th July
Cantreachmytoes - 24th July
MrsRoss26 - 24th July
Camb79 - 25th July
Sashabella0 - 25th July
BoyMeetsWorld - 27th July
marimba - 27th July
JessicaMLH - DC2 - 27th July
Lizincornwall - 27th July
LorrieJ- 27 July
TomDaleysTrunks - DC2 - 27th July
Silver15 - DC3 - 28th July
Wavesandsmiles - DC3 - 30th July
Trickybarmby - 31st July

Arrivals List (Outies):

SuperShiv - DS, Oliver, aka the little fighter, born 13.04.13, 1 lb
Emblosion - DS, Oisin Michael, born 27.5.13, 6 lb 1 oz
Beginningofthejourney - DS, Theodore, born 28.05.13, 6 lb 11 oz
Elliejitny - DS, Ezekiel, born 3.6.13, 7 lb 2 oz
Paolocee/Donna - DDs, Leila Poppy and Caitlin Liv
Princessllama - DS, Humphrey
Devilforasideboard - DS, Will
Schrosawmargerydaw - DS, born 21.6.13, Caspar Neil Ruaridh, 4 lb 8 oz
BB01 - DD Rosie, born 22.06.13, 4 lb 9 oz
Differentnow - DD Posy, born 22.06.13 8lb 4oz
OhGood - DS (no name yet)
NotprincessKate - Amy Rose, born 26.6.13, 8 lb 14 oz
Shelley72 - DD2, Florence, born 27.6.13
Twinklestarstwinklestars - DS, Max, born 27.6.13, 5lbs 3 oz
Gingerpanther27 - DS, Callum, born 27.6.13, 8 lb 4 oz
McKTastic - DS, Murray, born 29.6.13
Bigbelly4 - DD2, Constance Rose, born 30.6.13, 7 lb 4 oz
Chinainthegarden - DD, Clara Elizabeth, born 30.6.13, 7 lb 7 oz
TotallyEggFlipped - DD2, Naomi, born 1.7.13, 5 lb 8 oz
Vinegardrinker - DD, Bethan, born 2.7.13 (bang on her due date!), 7 lb 13 oz
Abz - DS, Joseph Robert, born 2.7.13, 8 lb 4 oz
Wifey6 - DS, Kyle, born 2.7.13
Cheeseandbread- DD, Juno Olivia, born 3.7.13, 7lb 2 oz
Tryitonforsize - DS, Gray Everett, born 5.7.13, 8 lb 6 oz
MarieKL - DS, Alexander, born 5.7.13, 8 lb 2 oz
MysteryMeg - DD, Edith, born 6.7.13, 8 lb 4.5oz
Pinkballetshoes - DD, Rachel Amelia, born 6.7.13
SundaySunshine - DS (name to follow), born 6.7.13
CitizenOscar - DS2 (name to follow), born 7.7.13
Calmisthemantra - DS, Abraham John Anthony, born 7.7.13, 8 lb 5 oz
Dinkystinky - DS3, Jackson Rivan, born 7.7.13, 8 lb 7 oz

Hi pocopearl I am no expert but I would talk to the midwife and even supervisor of midwives if possible (where I live there is a supervisor you can call on if necessary). On the nhs website there is a section on seeking a second opinion/seeing another consultant www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/910.aspx
I would have thought your midwife could give advice on pre-eclampsia and hopefully advise you about the consultant. Wishing you all the best!

My late pregnancy woes pale into insignificance...was called a heffalump yesterday by a random stranger while out shopping (who also touched the bump). Was too slow thinking to retort before stranger left the scene!

38+6 today...am constantly symptom spotting desperate to know when labour may begin. LMP due date was 27 July but scan due date 18 July...measuring correctly for 18 July due date OR it's going to be a big baby...

Thanks for tips/sympathy!

The worst of the piles have thrombosed which is why they're so painful! Went to GP this morning - they don't lance/drain them any more for fear of infection (I was thinking thank f**k at the time but now they're still louping would welcome the relief!) They may burst which he said would result in lots of bleeding! Prescription I was given is out of stock, cue me phoning over 20 pharmacies within an hour of here - no joy Phoned the docs back & the receptionist wasn't particularly helpful saying the prescription couldn't be guaranteed for today. I've been in tears cos it's so rudy painful - feel like a woose but they're v debilitating!! Everything else grand & OH has gone to docs to wait till he gets an alternative.

Apologies for the me,me,me. If you've piles & you're still an innie - get 'em sorted! Same asap if they've just appeared when you've produced an outie! I wouldn't wish these on any of you!

Excitement (and TMI) - had a bit of a show this morning, which is probably the result of yesterday's sweep. I know it could easily be 2 weeks yet, but at least it's some progress!

Popcopearl your Consultant sounds useless. Clearly hadn't even glanced at your notes if they were talking about you being pregnant in October although I'd like to think a consultant obstetrician could recognise a 39 week pregnant woman just by looking. I would certainly mention your concerns to your midwife tomorrow... she will certainly be able to advise on some things and hopefully point you in the right direction for answers if she can't help directly.

Esme weepiness is completely understandable, especially at 41 weeks. Hopefully the sweep will get things living for you soon.

39+6 today... Any time now is good, baby!

Yay Slouching. I hope the show is the start of something.

Ouch MckTastic. Hope DH comes back with a new prescription and they improve soon.

poco - definitely talk to your midwife tomorrow. I can only hope the consultant assumed you were a fresh first/second trimester referral and just thought you were very overweight rather than that he's completely ignorant. Your midwife should be able to sort it out for you & if not, talk to the supervisor of midwives.