Due in September 2006- part three...count down to summer!

[Coriander73]

New thread Bella...as promised!!!

[Normsnockers]

My mum said that she just let us play on the kitchen floor with the pots and pans, whilst she cooked or washed or whatever 'cos they couldn't afford a playpen !

[Lysettes]

Homemama that's absolutely great news I'm so pleased for you and lots and lots of hugs

Pol - what an interesting approach that friend has - we have bought a travel cot for our annual trip to NZ to see PIL, but I never dreamed we would use it here! Presumably the child doesn't need interaction or stimulation to learn like all other children - sorry end of rant!

Liquid - given my obsession with food (DH has instructions on what to bring in for my first meal that I have missed so much depending on the time of day I give birth!) , I imagine that the picnic hamper will be full of things I want to eat! We have one of those cooler back pack things so am now thinking of filling that too

[tassis]

Homemama - just popped in to see if you'd posted. FANTAsTIC news! I'm thrilled for you.

pol - also shocked re your friend and travel cot. I think play pens can have their uses, but to have a bath for an hour!! And with a 2 year old!!

Lysettes - I'd say pyjamas would be fine, but bear in mind that hospitals can be very hot. I had a few maternity nighties last time that I wore overnight in hospital and I've started wearing them again.

As for bags, last time I had a bag for me, a bag for baby and dh had a rucksack.

Delighted to announce that one of the dresses fits! Now just need shoes, cardi, jewellery etc etc...

[mabel1973]

Homemama - so :) :) :) at your news!

Spoke to my friend this morning about their split - she says she just doesn't feel the same anymore - she loves him but not 'in love'.
Don't really know what I can say or do - other than just be there for them both and hopefully not get caught in the middle. which is difficult when they are both friends.

I thnk I am going to wait til we get back from our hols to pack my hospital bag as I'll be 32 weeks then.
Am v. tempted to get the newborn clothes out of the attic and give them a wash - just to see thse teeny tiny babygros flapping on the line :)

[pol26]

Homemama- Great news for you! I'm sure you are so happy and relived.

As for friend glad i'm not on my own feeling the same that she should do something with her DS. My DD would go crazy if I stuck her in a travel cot/play pen all day. She thinks I should tho so we can 'chat' which is all well and good (everyone loves a good natter) but not all day.

Thinking now of taking in my wheelie little suitcase. Well, not so little... I think. I can't decide. And I agree on taking as much food in as possible! Hospital food is really stingey and mean. Our hosiptal food was either veg or potatos... I was always starving and it doesn't help with being tired.

[liquidclocks]

Advice please - one of my good friends has just toldme of a positive pregnancy test :) but she had a miscarriage at christmas :( So, now I want to be excited and positive for her and got her the GF book today (which she wanted) but her DH said to my DH that they weren't trying to get too excited yet. So - is there a good time to get excited or should we hang back and be cautious? What do people think? My instinct is to be supportive and positive since whatever we do if it does go wrong it would hurt loads anyway, and if it goes well then great. Anyway, not sure - thoughts?

[Lysettes]

tassis - monsoon has some great accessories in at the moment and is quite reasonable too

good point about hospitals being hot - have basically sat there in shorts and little vest thing for the two occasions i've been in recently!

mabel - good luck with your friends - it's so hard not to get stuck in the middle, but i am sure you'll manage to do whats best

[pol26]

I would be happy for her. Like you say if anything happens it will be terrible no matter what.

[Marls001]

Homemama, That's great news. So glad.

Claire, so glad you weren't hurt; know your DH wasn't caring about the car - just that you were okay!!

As for our packing any bag ... that's not going to happen until at least mid-August, guaranteed. People are asking if we have nursery prepared for the second baby and reply is "Nursery? What nursery?" He has DS1's hand-me-downs in everything. (If we find we need anything, there's always amazon.com?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21 overnight.) DS2 will be in co-sleeper by our bed for 6 months or so, then we'll decide what to do ... by that time will be leaving this house anyway bound for Houston again, so just playing it by ear. Poor second child. He's been born into a family full of first children (me, DH, DS), so he's in trouble.

As for the 9-month-old who cries for 1.5 hours, definitely atypical.

And don't you just hate moms who go on and on? - It has helped me to keep some friends who have vowed never to have children. As long as they don't discuss their dogs ... that's worse.

Mabel, know how you feel. That can be devastating, especially when you know both parties so well.

[Woodelf]

Great news Homemama {{{hugs}}} - must be a relief!

Liquidclocks, from personal experience of miscarriages and now great bumptiousness I would say be positive anyway - enough people aren't encouraging when it's most needed. She'll appreciate your support!

Catching up with posts I've been embarrassed into thinking about birth plan and bag packing - still seems surreally distant though. Have nursery full of wonderful bits picked up along the way and generous hand-downs from child-blessed friends. Not so sure about having a moses basket, crib and cotbed! The kid will get bed-confusion - if that exists...

[liquidclocks]

Thanks for advice folks, I think I'm just going to be happy and excited with her as much as she is and encourage her. We can't live in a world of 'might happens' can we?!

Facing a more pressing dilemma today - had another run of contractions last night for 3 hrs or so, didn't go in to hospital but was on the vere of calling. Anyway, supposed to be going to first professional conference today to present my project but it's 4hrs away on train and was supposed to stay 2 nights. Midwife coming in a bit so will chat with her but this is definitely NOT how I planned this pregnancy!

At least the weather's nice a cool!

Marls - we don't have a nursery either! DS2 will share with us until routine established, might have a short stay in small room that's due to become an office next year while he still wakes for night feeds but asap will be sharing with DS1! Poor thing but you might as well start as you mean to go on! Probably shold buy himsome drawers though, no room in DS1's anymore... :)

[clairemow]

Liquidclocks, I'd take your cue from your friend - if she's told you already, I think that shows that she sees you as a good friend who will support her through whatever happens. Fingers crossed this time..

[compo]

Homemama - at your fantastic news So happy for you.
Liquidclocks - personally I wouldn't go. It's too hot and far for such a long journey and you need to be looking after yourself and have your dh look after you not be in some strange hotel.... Stay home and out your feet up

[clairemow]

liquidclocks - it sounds to me as if you shouldn't go on a 4 hour train journey and then a 2 day conference where you are presenting. Is there someone else who could step in for you? As DH keeps telling me, yours and baby's health is far more important than any presentation at work. See what the midwife says about why the contractions might have been occurring, but I def think don't take any chances. Xxx

[muminaquandary]

COngratulations homemama - so pleased for you and what a relief. Friends had similar problems with DS1 but all is absolutely 100% now so hope the same for you.

Liquidclocks - re your friend, similar happened with friend of mine & she said she wanted to share so that at least she could turn to me if it was bad news as well as good, IYSWIM. As for travelling, no advice really, but I find myself regretting sometimes the 1 or 2 work things I did turn down during my first pregnancy when feeling under the weather, but then again would I have regretted if I had done them? Difficult one. Talk to your midwife & maybe she can put your mind at rest / give more medical advice on your decision.

[Bella23]

Morning ladies

Homemama - that's great news!! What a relief, so nice to hear happy news

Liquidlocks - I have to say re your work and how you are feeling that I wouldn't go. At the end of the day its only work and if you've been having worrying contractions etc then I wouldn't risk being away for 2 days etc.
See what your midwife says but make sure you do what your gut tells you to.
On your friend's positive result after a m/c. I was in the position and I can honestly say that I needed my closest friends to be really positive and hated anybody holding back "just in case" - I found this upsetting as I felt like i needed all the positive energy I could find! After a m/c you tend to worry so much its nice for friends to be very positive on your behalf.

Well after my mammoth post best get started with some work...........hope you all have a good day xx

[Coriander73]

A very close friend of mine, who has a DS 5 weeks younger than my DD, went for her 12 week scan last week only to be told baby had died at 9 weeks. I cannot tell you how devastated they are. The wierd thing is she was incredibly nauseaus & had had a scan at 6 weeks because she had a lot of implantation bleeding etc but all, at that stage, looked fine. We've been texting as she doesn't yet want to speak to anyone at all which I respect. Obviously it wasn't meant to be but am sure that doesn't make it any easier. She's told me that over the weekend it's come out naturally (she was offered a surgical proceddure but declined) & she's ready to move on now.....I just don't know what else I can say (other than be there for her...cliche but true?)as I've found the whole thing incredibly upsetting....more so for being a Mother & obviously being 28 weeks pg myself IYSWIM? I just feel incredibly grateful that despite all the various aches & pains etc I've not had to go through anything like that........

[muminaquandary]

Cori bit of a cliche but can you send her some flowers with a personal message or something? I once had some bad health news, something similar, and was really touched by friends who sent me things. Shows that you care & are not scared to keep in touch (altho it is obvious that you are there for her from what you say).

[Coriander73]

Thanks muminaquandry.....I will do that :)

[pol26]

coriander- My friend had three miscarriges and one once I was preg and I felt so bad. She called and said that she had lost her bubba and that she wasn't taking any calls.
I think it's best to let her know you are there for her but then let her deal with it however she can, I cannot imagine how it feels to loose a baby.
My friend is now trying again and I really have my fingers crossed for her.

[mabel1973]

Hi all

cori - I thn as long as she know you are there for her that is all you can do and let her deal with it in her own time.
Pol - I would be happy for your friend - like you say you can't live your life thinking what if.
Also wouldn't go on the work thing - I did stuff at work that prob put me at risk when pg with DS, which when I look back was just plain stupid, but I didn't want them to think I wasn't dedicated, your baby and your health is more important.
Am taking ds swimming ths afternoon - he hasn't been for a while so hope he's not too nervous. I am more concerned about inflicting my maternity tankini on the general public...!

[compo]

do you think we should start a new thrid trimester thread as everyone is already or approaching 28 weeks?

[muminaquandary]

yes plse compo!!

[compo]

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