Sneeze births please, and we'll BROOK NO ARGUMENT

[TheLittleFriend]

Over here Brookers. I'll stick a cake in the oven

I had one at 8 weeks Sparks and found it very reassuring - and as the others say by then they can see the heartbeat and stuff.

With your dating scan, do they the Nuchal Fold thing in your pct? I might be wrong but isn't there something like you have to be less than 13+6 to have that done?

biscuit I think I'd be 13+5, so not quite 14 weeks, I'm probably over reacting, but then mrsparks is willing to pay who am I to stop him?

Ffs, just realised, I have not explained myself at all. Right, at 7 weeks, they were not sure they would find much at all, I was lucky that they did, then I still had an age to mental wait for the 12 week scan, if you have one too early you may not see what you want to see and get the reassurance you want and will still have an age to wait for your next scan. I hope that made more sense that time.

Boo It's fine I understood what you went.

We've decided to try and wait until 1st December, so only 11 days earlier than my actual scan but we'd then be able to tell people that weekend, in a 'look what I got in my advent calander' sort of way!!!

Today I think I might marry the person who invented peppermint tea!!! I feel super queasy today but the peppermint tea has definately helped settle my stomach.

I've noticed today as well, that my sense of smell is increasing by the day, my tolerance of cat food has dropped to an all time low. I can't abide mrsparks cinammon bagels, which he has promised once he has had the last one he wont buy any more of, and I can actually smell someones cereal from down the corridor.

how is everyone else today? at you all being so much further a long than me!!!

Oh Sparks it will pass and soon be a distant memory. Bands going in the post this morning.

Sparks - I took the free offer of an early scan and delayed it by a week so that I was at least 7+5 - the consultant offered 6+5, I think, because she reckoned you should be able to see a heart fluttering. I'm afraid for me it still didn't take the edge off the wait until the first trimester was over and the chances of an MC were halved, but then I'm ancient and my chances of MC were already 1:4. Tbh, snf imho, scans bring anxiety as well as reassurance; I slightly envy the older generations who had less monitoring and just had to 'get on' with their pregnancies, but of course that came with negatives too.

Good luck with the MS; I do hope it abates for you.

Hey all. Another quick post from me, this week tiredness seems to have hit quite hard, even though I'm actually getting decent sleep and am not in work. Maybe my problem is not doing enough?

I'm still really well with the pg, had a mw appointment last week and was measuring perfect, with bean head down. Had wc jab yesterday, which has left my arm a bit achy but not too bad.

To the discussions about watching things with their DCs, has anyone tried Pingu? I found it excellent for my DN and its lack of mindless chatter combined with jokes for parents are a hood combo I find. It's on Netflix, and also available cheaply on a single DVD for the whole lot.

For whoever mentioned Ponyo, try Totoro too and maybe Kiki's Delivery Service. Spirited away is excellent, but aimed for older children/adults. I like Japanese children's movies, they have more innocence in them than a lot of ours, and tend to be quite beautiful. Nausicaa Valley of the Wind is one of my favourite films, it has some beautiful sentiments and music in, but again for older children. I should stop going on about anime :)

For MS try citrus-y things - real lemonade, lemon juice in water, lime juice etc. I found even the smell of lemon juice settled my stomach well. I think fluff found herself drinking lots too.

I should go find some lunch, indigestion is getting worse. Think I should look into some natural management techniques. Food Little and often is meant to be food right?

Waves to all, sorry not to name check everyone. Hope backs, MS and pre-scan nerves get better. That DCs behave, and DHs bring hone chocolate treats for all.

Ooh Sparks that's exciting re early scan. I agree it's good to wait as long as you can, really.

Tock your venue is beautiful. What are you going to wear? I bet it will be a wonderful day.

Stacks, glad you are doing OK, but make sure you get enough rest. Are you on mat leave now, or just off for a few days? It was me that mentioned Ponyo. We have seen a bit of Totoro as well. I agree they are lovely films for little kids and something adults can appreciate too.

Far how are you my dear? Only a few weeks for you to go now n'est pas? Brooking for a sneeze birth!

Gosh, you've had a chatty couple of days on here! Just off to another interminable obstetrician appt, but thought I better report the failure of Mr whim to bring home a single ferrero rocher, or present of any kind. There wad, however a free whiskey bar. I think it might have distracted him.

Have a good day y'all. Nearly Friday.

Stacks I've just told mrsparks when he picks me up he needs to be able to hand me bag of sour haribo as I totally read citrus-y as sour and if I have to face another ginger biscuit for a sugar boost I might actually barf.... which is obvs what Im trying to avoid!!!

Whim No frero roche?!! not even a whiff of a present?!!? send him back out immediately!!!

oh and Stacks i love Ponyo and spirited away, and I dont have form of child!!!

Thanks Gen - that's a lovely thing to say. Seems v indulgent now we have a family to save up for, but we are so lucky and I feel that we need to mark the specialness somehow. DP and I have known each other since I was 15 after all and we've both worked hard up til this point so the money should be spent and the people we love should get a treat. No idea about dress. Hardly appropriate to wear white. [hgrin] The building is a bit art deco and we are by the sea, plus it's autumn so we've got plenty of inspiration. A year (today) to plan!

Stacks - all sounding v good. Go girl.

Whims - sack him.

Far - where are you? We miss you and are brooking.

Boo - you have given me hope for the teenage years - I will have loads of fun winding them up. Hadn't thought of that! [hsmile]

Tock I wore white for my second marriage! Do what you want! But then again, autumn and seaside inspiration sounds good. Woo hoo on a year today!

You're right Gen - and I'm usually v good at doing what I want [hgrin] but am terrible at making decisions since pg. I have a designer dress that really suits me that I bought at Spittalfields market but v affordable. I might see if I can get hold of the designer and ask if she'll do a one off that is more wedding-y. Her dress was on telly q recently in BBC's Shadow Lines, the main protagonist's wife was wearing it (and going for IVF interestingly enough from the Brookers' perspective). But perhaps she is too famous now to be affordable!

I'm not sure that I knew you'd been married before but I'm v glad that you had the wedding you wanted to Mr Gen. We have one life and we've got to celebrate!

I have spirited away and kiki's delivery service and love them :) stacks it sounds like pregnancy fatigue rather than anything you are/aren't doing to me :)

Good luck for your early scan sparks

So exciting tock! Are you going to wait til post baby to buy a dress or start looking now? That was my favourite bit of wedding prep, even if my dress was an ebay job :o

All well here. Going a bit stir crazy being stuck at home (can't drive for another month and can't really push the pram yet :( ) but loving dd, who at just 17 days of age sadly has oral thrush and a teeny tiny bit of (seemingly painless) nappy rash guilt guilt guilt. I've lost the bulk of my baby weight though - I gained 3st in the end and I'm now down to the last 12lbs :) :)

Hi Fluffy I know the feeling about being stuck at home, although not had any probs with pram pushing. My DD also has oral thrush which i'm sure is not pleasant for her but has also caused me discomfort bf so we are both being treated. Well done on the weight loss Its so nice just being able to move easier and be able to see and wash parts I couldn't previously do very comfortably.

Tock the wedding ideas sound lovely

Blimey fluff it took me about 9months to get down to the last 12lbs. Good for you|! You'll be on the cover of Heat in no time. Sorry to hear about the stir crazy. Can you get someone to take you out? I'm guessing Mr Fluff is back at work again? I would offer, but I'm not sure I'd fit on an aeroplane (and one of the whimlets is a bit peaky so I might be required to rush off to school to collect him). You entirely have my sympathies though - our first 3 weeks here with no car and no toys and no telly and nowhere to walk to because it was too hot were pretty tough. I remember spending hours on the phone in the early days because you're pinned to the sofa but want to do something

Wedding plans sound exciting tock. Don't think i'll be sacking MrWhim over the ferrero rocher infraction. He did bring me a takeaway the other day when my dinner date fell asleep!

Stack, I think it's entirely normal to turn narcoleptic in late pregnancy. I remember having to set an alarm clock for the school run because I kept falling asleep in the afternoon with DS3. Bed hair on the morning school run is bad enough, but in the afternoon! Still, I had an excuse of sorts.

How's your back gen? I'm starting to get quite achey with spd, and disappointingly have discovered my comfy sofa exacerbates it. So I have a total hobson's choice of sit on an uncomfy chair, but then be able to move, or sit on the comfy sofa and then seize up.

Any exciting plans for the weekend? I have a packed schedule of making werewolf and dragon outfits and then a potential tornado on Sunday, which will leave us without power for days. What fun.

Yes, Tock had one marriage to Mr Wrong, then marriage to Mr Right 4 years ago. I think about it often and how happy I am now compared with then. Your dress plans sound amazing!

Fluff you have done brilliantly to lose the weight so quickly! Do you think it's down to BF'ing? I lost weight quite quickly after DD, but was disappointed (and quite amazed really) that when I got home from hospital I had only lost 7lb (how can this be when DD was 7lb 13oz and surely I also lost the water and placenta as well?!). Hope your lovely DD gets better soon and you are mobile again quickly.

Nice to see you too Cakes!

Whim, my back is a bit better, but I'm still on crutches. Sorry to hear you have SPD and the choice of sofa vs hard chair sounds rubbish. Do the Americans have a fancy cure for SPD? Have you had it with other pregnancies? I have exciting plans for the weekend: sleeping. The lovely PILs have got DD for the weekend, so DH and I will be sleeping lots. I've also got two new books to read and may not even get dressed on Saturday

Meant to say - brooking the tornado gives you a miss, Whim. Or, alternatively, that it picks you up safely inside your house and takes you to Oz.

cakes are you managing to get the thrush stuff in her ok? I have this horrible sugary crap to try and get in her using a spoon but she always falls asleep after a feed and it's a nightmare!

:o gen I retained so much water (my ankles were massive) that I'd only lost 2lbs when I left the hospital! I'm not sure how I've lost it so quickly except I was pretty huge and I think most of it was bump so it could just be water and excess blood etc going? My eating hasn't changed and my mum even bought us a Thorntons gift box instead of flowers :o
Glad to hear your back is a bit better and that they think they might know what the problem is :)

A tornado whims! Do you have a "drill" or tornado plan or anything?

Random quick post from bed after a late afternoon nap I saw a dummy in Boots the other day that gives oral medication while baby sucks. Potentially useful? Or to babies take spoons ok?

Will post properly later but just wanted to thank boo bundles for my sickness bands hope they work!

Oh and in case you have noticed ITS THE WEEKEND!!!!

Aargh, just lost a post with all my name checks!

I hope everyone has a lovely weekend, enjoys their books and avoids tornados

cakes and fluff dd had oral thrush at that age too, I always felt like I wasn't getting enough of the med in her but it still cleared up in a week or so, so just get as much as poss over their tongues and I'm sure it'll clear soon for them both x

well thank y'all for your concern about all things tornado related. The boys practise tornado drill at school (sit under desk) like we would do a fire drill. They also do 'lock down' drill (for terrorist threats and snipers like the one 10 years ago) (sit under desk with the lights off). I think our policy is 'how bad can it get, pull yourselves together and don't be so ridiculous'. It's the same policy for most eventualities that befall the Whim family. Although I do still feel bad about making my husband walk into the hospital by himself when he was admitted for swine flu. But not bad enough to have performed a policy u-turn.

fluff could you try a syringe, like the ones you get with calpol (a pharmacist can give you one)? I would squirt it in the side of the mouth while she's still on the boob.

Right, need to get the boy to bed so I can listen to Radio 4 in peace

Sorry just read half a post but fluff deco go for a syringe - way way easier than a spoon at this age. You get a stopper to put in the bottle then you poke the syringe in it and tip it upside down. Draw up the amount and squirt it in to their mouth. Way way easier

Sorry for not trading owt else x