Due in October part 8- still plodding along, this time with copious amounts of raspberry leaf tea

[Londonmrss]

Surely this'll be the last one before moving to the postnatal section?

Due Dates:

Sept. 24: Lisbethsopposite DS2 by planned induction
Sept. 25: Squidkid DC1
Sept. 26: Elpis DC2 by ELCS
Sept. 27: Planktonette DC1
Oct. 1: FjordMor DD1 by planned induction, Gigglewhizz DC1(?)
Oct. 2: Firstbubba DC1, Milk DC2
Oct. 5: Yomping DC1
Oct. 7: Crazypaving DC2
Oct. 10: WantAnOrange DC2, MrsConfusion DC1, MidgetM if induced
Oct. 11: Smileyhappymummy DC2 by ELCS
Oct. 14: Hufflepuffle DC1.
Oct. 17: Smorgs, DC1
Oct. 18: Bella2012 DC2, Beccus DC1
Oct. 19: Shellwedance DC1
Oct. 20: Beeblebear DC1, MidgetM if ELCS DC2
Oct. 21: Dosomethingmutley DC1
Oct. 26: Londonmrss, DC1, Zara1984 DS1, Liege07 DS1
Oct. 28: Kyyria DC1, Loopyla, DC1
Oct. 30: Cherrychopsticks, DC1
Nov. 1: Londonlivvy DC1
Nov. 8: Mickey DC1

Actual babies:

Sept. 20: Velo - Max 2.35kg
Sept. 25: Angelico - Mini Angelico, CWest30 - Naomi Louise, 4lb 10oz

LondonMrs I could have written your post . Can't offer much perspective or any soothing words but can offer companionship through the doubt if that's any help . Think to a certain extend, part of pregnancy is mourning for old life which, although it can be similar, will quite frankly never be the same again. But I am assured by everyone who has kids that it is better than before in a huge number of ways that make up for the changes and sacrifices.

Hey ladies! Sending you all a hug and a wave and looking forward to seeing you all on PN thread! :o

London try not to worry. Everyone has been through this meltdown - I had the same thing 2 weeks pre-Bean. Having CS slows things down because I can't drive yet but you WILL get out and about with baby :) Try and find some good babysitters! x

Bella thank goodness you have stalled - it has taken me days to catch up.
I made notes as I went along so I hope I can read my them now.
I loved your train story - I have also been amazed at the number of people who just dash past you when you are slow moving/pregnant. I have been cut off at the grocery queue and generally people walking briskly across your path. I'm getting a little less yielding with a pram. 'Oh dear, you didn't see this 3ft square object in front of me before you cut across me. I'm sure your ankles will be OK , in a day or 2'. Funny, once upon a time I used to think that pram pushers were rude as they sailed on slowly about their business, but when I'm pushing the pram and holding a door open, it is not in my role as porter for the shop, it is to get through it MYSELF - you'll see in a couple of weeks.

Elpis I haven't had the baby blues yet, but so far we are co-sleeping like yourself (completely unplanned) but we are all getting sleep. I check my boobs in the morning because I cannot remember what happened in the night. Was the feed 3/5AM? Or did baby get fed at all? We seem to be meandering on. At 10 days he was back heavier than his birth weight, my public health nurse spent most of her visit talking about her own pregnancy (she was 8 weeks) and a friend of hers who was starting IVF. I took all of this to mean that she wasn't worried about me, so positive. My mood is always sleep/fatigue related - how can you be OK on 3 hrs sleep?
Oh yes and the walking to the park thing - I was torn between wanting to give you a hug or a clip in the ear. What were you thinking of? 4 days post CS... You poor poor thing. I'm thinking of Wonder Woman, with her kind of tiara and satin shorts. We have nothing in common with her. Here is a virtual hug. Please please be nice to yourself, your family need you well. And CeeBeebies is not the same as giving them a cigarette.

Angelico I did not have a section, but I did lose a lot of blood and am on iron. I had my first poo 6 days post delivery and poos are intermittent since. They are getting better as I walk more though. I have the 'Baby Whisperer' by Tracy Hogg. Mine is called Secrets of the Baby Whisperer. I think Tracy Hogg has actually passed away. I remember liking it a lot more than Gina Ford. My theory on Gina is that any system could be applied to any baby but do not suit every mother. Rigid routines did not suit me, but for the people who like that tend to love Gina Ford. Paul has slept a lot up to now but is changing over the last day or so - time for Baby Whisperer again methinks.

Fjordmum not ready for baby?? I think it is like preparing for a tsunami! One of the Mumsnet books talks about these being our practice babies while we would have it right on our future ones. Are you ever 'ready'. I know you will be fine, you have dealt with a lot of crap and coped so you also cope with baby - and I think you will be great!! Sounds like your MiL has her head screwed on so there may be help from that quarter.
I have a brother who is divorced, and he lives with his partner. His children are 15(daughter) and 17(son) years, she has no children. Anyway, my mother was moaning over the weekend that partner only makes boiled potatoes and son (17 years!!) likes mash . I regard my mother as sensible in lots of ways but she has a soft spot for those children and partner cannot win.
BTW Congratulations on the birth of Ida - wonderful news

I will post this now in case I lose it as the site seems to be behaving oddly but more to follow!

huffle, you should probably wait for DH to watch homeland with you if he really will watch it with you. It is nice to cuddle up watching tv. My dp was very cross when i told him i was going to watch 24 season 6 without him, but he is always too busy working to watch tv with me. Do bring some choccies, and how lovely yomping is going to join us.

londonmrs, I've recovered from my nasty back pain and psd is not too bad at the moment and my upset tummy has gone away, so i am back to feeling like i do not want baby to come yet as i am having such a nice time chilling out at home/catching up with friends/ going for last minute beauty treatments. Feel a bit guilty for feeling not impatient as i should be to meet my baby, because i am having such a nice time enjoying the last of my prebaby life. Am i going to be a bad mum because i feel if bubs makes an appearnace at the last possible day before induction, that would be quite convienient?

Also, am guttered I've just had to say no to a really good friend's wedding invite in capetown next yr as DP doesn't want to go, and while i feel i could manage bubs on my own, he's not comfortable with me taking bubs there by myself. DP and i are quite different - i love seeing my friends and having fun, but he is far more sensible, less sociable and spends a lot of time working. To date, this has worked fine, we do our own thing, i go on holidays without him/ see friends without him, but i've just realised this will have to change as we're both going to have to agree on more things/make more plans together once baby arrives...not really sure why this penny didn't drop earlier, but it really hit home that i'm not going to be able to just do what i want when i want anymore. As a compromise, i've got a promise out of him that we will have a little family holiday next yr....which, tbh is a pretty good outcome.

I think there will be lots of changes ahead, but i dont think we will regret it - i think that because of all the other mummies on here who are fretting about their last special days alone with their DC1.

hello Lisbeth, so great to hear from you!

Welcome back yomping and sorry we got a bit over-excited on your behalf thinking maybe baby Yomping had made an appearance. At least you are now midway between the doctor's due date and your new calculation. Pregnancy can't and won't go on forever, and repeat...and repeat! I think Mother Nature makes us this uncomfortable so that we do become ready for the next part of the adventure.

smiley thanks so much for sharing your story and congratulations again! melissa is by bestie's name so has great associations for me. Love it!

Thanks again for lovely supportive comments re DS. I am feeling better today, hormones have re-arranged plus I have had an amazing night away with DH in the hotel whee we had our wedding reception. I don't know if you remember a few weeks back we had to cancel a planned trip because of a rugby game and I was v. Disappointed. Well, my lovely fella and Mum arranged it all for last night. Plus, lovely lady on reception felt moved by romantic idea of this being our last sneaky time together before baby and upgraded us into the most amazing hotel suite!! It was soooo gorgeous and the bed was the biggest I have ever seen-it could have happily slept 4 people which was great for me and my pillow fortress! I am feeling quite high on getting a whole aftenoon and night to be husband and wife, not responsible for anyone for once, just relaxing and laughing together. We even manged some really quite satisfying sex even though I am so big and I just feel so in love with my bloke. So Londonmrs you are rigt, it is hard and does require a lot of sacrifices, but what you and your hubs share doesn't vanish, and it is all the sweeter when you do get to have time together. And last night we still talked some of the time about our boy and funny things he has said and the amazingly joyful miracle that he is ours, someone we have made together, and it really is the biggest blessing imaginable.

I have a stonking cold, so will be back to normal grumblings tomorrow-just thought I would share a happy parents tale to make sure you all know that your lives aren't over!

I KNEW it - loads more posts!! Congrats to all starting their mat leave this week - I started mine in August which feels like a lifetime ago.

MidgetM Is your induction this week - excitement!!

I think Cherry you were talking about a Baby-Bjorn Bouncer. I have one that I inherited from SiL. I have not used it much yet as baby was kind of slumped into it, I have a lie flat pram, that I have put a pillow into and he sleeps in that a lot of the day. It sounds like it would hold baby the way your bamboo thing would. Ask your MiL what they would use when you want baby to be able to see around the room, and you want them propped up a little higher - they might have some equivalent. Babies are the same aren't they?

Yomping I am still missing the endorphin high of exercise - I am 2 weeks today and I was in Tenas for 10 days. Also BF boobs are a little tender. Exercise for me is a (slow) walk. But I am having satisfying pees!!
I think Milk started this thread the very first day - glad she is well with baby.

Squid Congratulations on your birth. In my Ante-natal care it was ObG (male) led and I loved my dealings with MWs, 'cause there was a lot more 'I know what you mean - my self/SiL/friend had that symptom'. I felt more empathy from the women. I think all of this experience will make you a better dr.
Oh yes- you used the word 'normal' at some stage. I heard that used several time post birth. I think they mean v delivery is 'normal', but I felt it was the most bizarre use of the word. Is there a 'normal' car crash? And they happen every day? In my hormonal roller coaster I was always a little by the word.

Velo Another Tena fan here. I had a cough post birth, and they saved my dignity for 10 days.

Planktonette Job done congratulations!!! www.katsandogz.com/onchildren.html
This is a poem that I have reflected on a lot in the last while - why did I have children in my 40s? You are right, the bond will come.

To all with moods, for no apparent reason - you have my sympathy. Yomping CrazyP LondonMrs I seemed to get about 2 days every 10, maybe every second week. I think it was Wantanorange says we are entitled to them. (Congrats on Artemis Lily ) They passed away as oddly as they appeared for me and I've had none since birth (touch wood). Self indulgence may not cure them but it's worth a try - so box sets and chocolates are reasonable IMO

Londonlivvy BF Bras - I bought 2 while pregnant
www.figleaves.com/uk/product/MC-E71-135/Elle-Macpherson-Intimates-Maternelle-non-underwired-drop-cup-bra/?size=&colour=Pinks
This one is fine but this one;
www.figleaves.com/uk/product/HTM-MS-001/HOTMilk-Luminous-Nursing-Bra/?size=&colour=Ivory
is a bit small and I was too slow on the returns.
It is really hard to gauge size as from start to end of a feed your boobs will change size dramatically, and I think really you need a soft bra so the Elle McPherson one is softer.
I would suggest the Belvia bra from JML is a good place to start until your milk comes in. It is very soft but easy to get in and out of, easy wash. It wouldn't give a good shape by normal standards but what shape are we at that point and you will only be walking slowly.
I also have a cleaner who comes for 3 hours once a week Huffle and I certainly would not give it up, not for anything. With 2 little boys I may need more, we will see, but other luxuries would go first. Sausage for dinner anyone?

Beccus Love your friends birth story - was any of it in the plan?
As a physio, I hate that they are messing you about with appointments. Sounds like they got their wires crossed, perhaps physio/reception error. Let them know how inconvenient it is and perhaps a different physio can take you at the same time.

Fjord Congratulations on Ida - I assume 15cm was a missprint?

Welcome everyone new; willowtree springersmum, celestia, Octoberoctober, Lizzietow.
I will be going to the PN thread and I want you all to be company and support for each other . I don't know anywhere else you will get support for having a row with your partner over how he washed the ware or sympathy on your poos.

BeebleB I hope DH situation is resolved - what a weirdo? but that is part of 'dealing with the public' and you have to protect yourself and your reputation. I am glad your DH had gotten legal representation and was back at work. Sounds like it will be a big life lesson for you - As a health care worker, I am used to being in potentially litigious situations so we are prepared for it (keeping notes, having a witness if possible) but in coaching, you are probably less prepared for this type of situation/nuttiness

CWest we are all thinking of you, not being able to take DD home yet. Think of her tube like a man made umbilical. Paul (my bean) is here asleep beside me, so my heart goes out to you, but THIS TOO WILL PASS. It will.

Lizzietow another 2 yr old here also. He is getting away with murder recently. In the end of pregnancy, I hadn't the energy to manage him, and since DS2 is born I've been treading softly. He now demands biscuits before/instead of dinner, and is generally a bit tyrannical naughty.

CrazyP Congrats on DS. Jelly belly coming on here too.

Kyria we knew for 6 months we were having a boy and it took us 3 days to name him. I've heard of birth certs being changed months after the event! It will come, don't worry.

SmileyHM I agree on the symptom fade post birth - I feel normal wonderful. Just to be nausea/heartburn free, energy back to walk, moods level. I took great pleasure in pouring Gaviscon down the drain. The taste of it was making me feel sick.

Beccus Sorry about the wedding - did you have to send your regrets so early? Like you I am more social than my DH but I keep up with my girlfriends in my own time - could you keep the option open a while longer?

Huffle full sympathy on your own biz. I had a physio (only one ever), when I had my own practice, who pilfered all round him. Took home equipment (like tape). He would erase patient names from the diary and take home their charts and keep their payments. We kept catching him as the patient would invariably look for a receipt a few days later. You will have to keep an eye on things if it is your and your family's bread and butter - that is just how it is. I have a govt. job now and mat leave pay arrives in the bank (relief).

Thats it - caught up. Have a nice lazy day anyone starting their mat leave

Beccus Your DH sounds a bit like mine. He's super-organised, and the sort of trips we both enjoyed pre-children (NYC, South Africa, Seattle) are just not feasible any more, both because of the expense and the flying involved. (I hate flying more and more, especially with children.) He does not enjoy beach holidays, nor the walking/ outdoor swimming that I love. But he is quite happy in a self-catering place by the sea if it has wifi... So our holidays have fallen into a different pattern. We all have a week somewhere in the UK where DD can run around and enjoy the outdoors and he can cook/Kindle/work remotely if necessary. I take a week or so in August to join friends in France at a full-board place that's full of kids. He'd hate it, and he gets a week of bachelor life at a busy time of year in his job. And I try to see the same friends in Paris for a few days each winter. You may find that your DH is happier with you taking the baby away for a little while if he works that week (or has a business trip?).

LondonMrss I could have also written your post...what are we thinking??? Hoping desperately that I'll fall madly in love with our baby when it's born and all previous worries & thoughts will have just seemed stupid & unnecessary but until then

I am almost a little to post after Lisbeth such a mammoth and thoughtful post that mine can only pale into my hormonal selfish nonsense it is oh so likely to be! Big kudos on making such a long post with tiny baby. And for making me cry with the poem about children - I wanted that at DD's Christening but DH put his foot down and I caved in. I think it is beautiful. Thanks for thinking of me - I have a sweep tomorrow and I think she will offer induction this week or early next. Not sure about it still and may go for ELCS if a few sweeps don't work.

Well here goes lets see how long I can post before my mammoth nesting frenzy attacks me again and I have to go and move/paint/clean something...

Well I am very much with the people who are struggling with their moods. I feel like I have PMT and my coping threshold is very low. I have never been this pregnant before. Kudos to all those that can take it up to 42 weeks, I doff my hat. Especially you Yomping moving dates is serious stuff - I admire your patience.

All the talk of tenaladys got me a bit but now I am coming round to the fact that they could be just what the Dr ordered. Best go get them whilst obviously pregnant or I will be too to get them after....

Bella that trip away was your good wife karma - it was so sweet of you to let him go last time the universe is rewarding you with a big comfy bed for your fortress of pillows. I need to get some sex in soon as I know I won't be up for much for a wee while after so need to bank some....

Beccus Thought your symptoms sounded promising and got all excitied another thread baby was on it's way. Don't worry - traveling with a baby isn't so hard and you will fall into your old pattern of independence again - only this time you will have company. Some things about having a baby do tend to hit quite late on in the pregnancy and some don't hit until they are on the outside

londonmrs and huffle you are right to suddenly wonder where you will find the time and the space in your hearts for a new member of the family. I keep thinking it now even though I have one already and I know my love can just keep growing. You will find it, in your own time and in your own way. With DD it was instant with the love, less so with the time! I know this time round it could be different but I still worry if it will come.

Bloody hell I am out of time - have to do the school pick up. Well I think I started to lose my plug today - sweep tomorrow if favorable - so baby could be any time soon. Going to talk turkey with the consultant tomorrow and will have a final birth decision. If his growth has continued at this pace I think induction would be lunacy and I will end up with a EMCS so would rather just go with an ELCS which is less likely to mess with BF. However, if a few sweeps can get things started naturally I will try and breathe the baby out of me with all that hypnobirthing nonsense or just go to sleep but still sleep is something not to be sniffed at these days is it? So if out the normal exit - this week - if out the trap door then next week. Blimey....

Big wave to all the baby mummas - and all of you who had an ELCS - am I crazy to think about this as an option or would you say it wasn't as bad as you thought?

Cross posted with 3 of you! I canna keep up. 3 working days till mat leave starts and hopefully I will get better at keeping up and catching up.

Oh my oh my oh my!! I am in awe of you Lisbeth at your dedicated mammoth catch up!!!!!!!! And with tiny bambino too....... We are not worthy!!! I am not worthy of anything after nearly 2 hours dandering g round shopping centre!!! But I brought us some Thorntons!!! And some Clary sage oil ( for when I actually slow down, become overdue and want baby out!) and some Spatone. Sharesies all around!!

Think I need a sleep now...... Catch up later, promise to try!!!!

Where is everybody?

Trying desperately to get on between feeds/colic-placating sessions...will try and read with on phone with one hand during this next one. Yours, hot n hard boobs, the milk factory...

Waves at the milk factory...

Londonmrss... you sound like my kinda woman. I could have written your post- in fact even last night I was thinking about the last time I smoked pot.. (at least a year ago!) and wanted some more!

Ugh. Restless legs. I'm back from Wales... I've had awful dizzy spells and nausea all weekend and today- work was not very productive.. So I goes dutifully to the doctor to see what my blood pressure was like.. and he decides that the dizziness has nothing to do with my pregnancy (I beg to differ) but in fact a virus affecting the fluid balance in my ears. Now that is all very well.... but I don't have normal ears!!!!!!!! I was born with deformed ears and I'm not even sure that the part he was talking about even exists in my head. It makes me laugh because he seems to just blame everything on problems with my ears, and never actually investigates whats going on.
I think I knew I had no hope when he said "Hows your hearing?". "My hearing doc? Lacking. As it has been since the day I was born". Idiot doctor. Roll on midwife appointment on Friday with someone that knows what they are doing!!!!

Lisbeth, my friend had planned to push her bubs out with only gas and air in the lush birth centre, where you can stay for 24 hrs afterwards in your own room with your hubby, but pesky poo in her waters put paid to that and she had to go to labor ward and grotty post labor ward. I am a physio, too, so that appointment thing did my head in - how hard is it to organise an appointment diary!

bella, so, so pleased to hear about your weekend away, Totally agree with midget that that was good karma coming for u.

thanks elpis and midget for the reassurance about travelling with busb - i think DP will feel more confident about it as time goes by, but at the moment caring for baby is too much of an unknown.

midget, front door v trap door is a tricky choice - smiley is defintely the poster girl for elcs recovery and lisbeth is poster girl for induction.....i thought my bubs could be on the move yesterday, too, but after clearing everything out, he/she must have decided he/she couldnt be bothered...lazy bean!

It's so quiet on here now half the thread is on the post natal one!! Hey fjord, good to see u!!

Hi all, sorry I haven't posted for a while! It is getting a bit quiet on here, isn't it?!

Congratulations Smiley, Melissa Rose is a beautiful name and not one you hear everyday anymore. Hope everything's going well for you all.

Well done for the huge catch up Lisbeth, I think you covered everything, so succinctly, and with a baby! I will probably waffle on for hours and still miss most people out.
By the way, I don't think it was me initially, regarding the Baby Bjorn Bouncer, I had just noticed how expensive they were. We haven't bought anything like that yet, decided to wait til Baby was here and we knew a bit more about what we might need.
Glad everything seems to be going so well with Paul, sounds like you're doing amazingly

Fantastic news you got your weekend away Bella, you so deserved it. I was hoping your DH would surprise you with something like that. Sorry to hear about the cold though.

Midget, I don't know what I'd choose in your situation...I have no experience whatsoever, but maybe the ELCS? Especially if there's a chance you could end up with EMCS anyway. But I suppose you just have to go with whatever the doc recommends tomorrow. Good luck with the sweep!

Huffle, I've got tea tree oil and lavender oil for post birth. Can't find which hazel here anywhere - another good one I've heard. As far as I know, you don't need a carrier oil as you'll be putting it in water. I hope this is true, as we don't want to make the situation any worse!

Beeble, glad DH's work problems are getting better. You must be relieved. And can I say I love all the typos and auto corrects in your posts, they always make me giggle, please don't change them!

Congrats on the mat leave Loopy! Today is the last day of my 4 day weekend, and like you I'm planning on a PJ day, but here the sun is blazing and making me feel very guilty. I wish it was grey and miserable.

Smorgs, your French lifestyle makes me very . Can you tell me how easy it is to get dried apricots over there? Weird question I know, but they're really hard to come by here and DH has just left for a business trip to Bordeaux with instructions to bring back as many dried apricots as possible. Just wondering if this is a Mission:Impossible? (

cherry chipsticks wipe warmer? bloody hell. Baby product = licence to print money. Couldn't sleep at all. Letting light into my womb did not help for once. Excited and anxious for the sweep and the chat with consultant. Gulp.

Morning all

Midgetm wish I had the urge to nest I?m usually a really super tidying/cleaning fiend but now I?m off work, I just cannot be arsed bothered at all . Will the nesting thing kick in after a few more days of maternity leave or just when I get bored??? And good luck with your sweep today!

Fjord Hot n Hard boobs?? Sounds like a porn film!!

Your pampering day sounds lovely Cherry but probably best not to try and push baby out by yourself at home although I?m sure you?d cope admirably with it, your DH would miss out on the experience! Hope he finds some dried apricots for you!

liesbeth thanks for the bra suggestions. Unfortunately the elle mcpherson ones don't come in my size. I am planning to buy some at 38 weeks from that site that yomping and huffle suggested - there is a choice of about 13 iin my size which seems good. And they have a 45 day returns policy so that should give me a chance to get an idea of sizing etc and return the others.

I've been quiet as my sister, husband and kids arrived Sunday afternoon and are a whirlwind of noise, mess and fun. Lots of cooking, sorting, playing and chatting. Oof. Wiped out.

Then went to doc for flu and whooping cough jabs (now have two dead arms) and manic day at work. Left at 630, drove home and off to our NCT first aid course. Got home 11pm.

And today I get to present to large group of important clients for five hours. Holy moly. Once this day is over I shall be on downhill straight to maternity leave though. Yay for that. Of course still plenty of work I could or should do, but I will have to stop and let go (mentally, as well as physically) at some point. It's hard though, after dedicating myself to this job for five years.

Hello to everyone else and will try and do a proper catch up tonight, assuming my brain still works.

Just realised I sounded a smidge graceless, liesbeth. I was genuinely touched that you'd thought about it and come up with some suggestions. Thank you!

morning y'all!

Thank you for being so nice about my weekend away. I really hope good wife karma exists, in which case we will all be deserving some amazing good luck having gone through all of this for our husbands!

Hope the sweep is OK midget and that the consultant gives you some clear guidance as to which way you should go. I know I don't know all the factors involved, but if I were you I would go for the elective section. Almost all my real life friends have had an emergency section with number 1 and an elective for number 2 and I have been so amazed at their recovery and their reflections on what a straightforward process it was for them. Obviously, our friends on the PN thread will be better qualified to advise, I just thought I would throw in my nugget on the subject!

lisbeth I am so impressed with that mega catch-up! You have been so thoughtful and generous with your time and experience. My brain turned to mush for weeks after I had DS! You are amazing xx

Livvy Good luck with your presentation today. You are a complete superwoman still working and doing such a demanding job, plus doing all your yoga coursework etc. You are going to be an amazing multi-tasker Mum! How many days are left before Mat leave? I hope you are going to have some time to yourself before the baby comes?

cherry glad you have had some time to relax, you deserve it! Bloody hell- a week in hospital is a long time! That has to be optional? Surely?

Morning! Finding it hard to keep up with all the posts, but I was amazed Lisbeth with your ultra organised catch up!
I'm now 39+ 4 and keep getting all kinds of twinges, and constant period like pains this morning. Still in bed so about to get up and see if they disappear.

mickey glad you survived your weekend in wales but sorry to hear you aren't feeling so good. I hope your midwife can determine the cause of the dizzy spells. Presumably your doc looked at your blood pressure and things like that? I hope you feel better soon!

beccus hello due date buddy! I am sorry I have called you bacchus for the whole of this thread-i thought it was some play on the bacchae! What an idiot i am! That is a shame about the wedding. I have had to refuse an invitation to a good friend's wedding in early December because I just think it will be mental trying to look after a 3 year old (who will keep running off) and a newborn (who will be attached to me) and trying to look nice and trying to make small talk. So DH is going on his own and I am v. Jealous of them all booking up holiday cottages and stuff like that. But the groom is DH's friend really, so that is just the way it goes. i know you situation is different, and one baby is actually very portable, so thee will be loads you can still do once you find your feet with it all.

Speaking of weddings, does anyone else feel like they would just like one day off from being pregnant? I would love to wear something nice, go to a wedding and eat and drink and dance and feel properly part of things for once. It has been soooo long since any of us have had any time or done anything without this huge pre-occupation. Don't get me wrong, I haven't lost sight of how lucky I am to be in this position, I just feel like de-bumping for a day! Perhaps that is because this bloody cold is driving me mad and I can't have any lemsip or anything!

Told you I would be grumbling again in no time! Naughty Bella. dS and I are busy making an epic traffic jam out of cars so I better give that my full attention!

Hugs to all xx

bella2012 re cold - Boots sell a really cheap lemon and paracetamol powder in sachets. Red and white packet, 'Value' range and safe in pregnancy (and for bfing - decongestants can affect your milk supply). Recommended - you wouldn't know difference from Lemsip. x